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[quote=flygon123445][quote=Kirbys]>= indicates it wins out narrowly, this is also assuming equal status in equipment

Dojo: NW>BW>DB>Shad

no im fairly sure it goes nw > shad > db > bw if they all cap.[/quote]

Well I'm not sure about how bw and db rank for capping but I've seen some good times for both.
Still, I'm actually pretty sure shad > nw if they all cap. You'll be one hitting everything up to stage 33. Then 2 hitting everything for the rest except maybe the last one or two. MC isn't as slow as people make it out to be as it's only about 16-20% slower than phantom blow. Getting lucky with spawns and portal lag and you're looking at a low 4 min dojo time. All of this is irrelevant because I'm talking about normal to funded people and even people that cap.

[quote=Buster1651]@epicderp: huh. I would if I could be bothered. But I think you're overestimating the other 3. A capping dual blade, hits insanely fast and has plenty of lines. A capping shad hits 120mil per line and has plenty of lines. Hasn't orbital fireball (whatever its called) been nerfed?
Just watched BW bossing vids and still think a DB or Shad could outdamage capping[/quote]

Again not going to go with capping shadower with midnight carnival because that's not realistic, but even capping db on every boss (like cvellum) with fc is not really realistic for most people's purposes (takes 25% on everything, at least for me). BW has good DoT (stronger than venom) and multiple spammable attacks that are basically no delay. They might be on par with an autocasted 100% fc db but I still thing they win out ahead with the blazing extinction, orbital flame spam and dot. BW is still stronger than db and shadowers disregarding dps charts even with the nerfs. They are also easier to fund.

I also disagree about training with db vs shadowers. People on GMS primarily train at second drill hall so I am going to go with ease of going across the map killing things. When you can kill the mobs with blade fury, you can also one shot with phase dash. However with blade fury to cover the amount of distance you'd need to also jump and use blade fury. If you jump you're going to land on the platform in the middle, making it hard to hit monsters when you're at the top of the platform. You can use bloody storm but it doesn't work with no monsters. The move that does work with no monsters is tornado spin, which is too slow to be efficient and from the time I was a db, using blade fury to train was optimal. DB do train better at places like armory 2 and kd4 though due to their blade ascension but most people don't solo anyway. Only blaze wizards can do that map solo very efficiently out of the 4 listed.

Shadower everything

Shadowers for life

shadower best survivability.. u can literally AFK at pink bean and not take any dmg at all, nightlord best range dps in the game by far, blaze wizard is fun, dual blades are tough but die very easily

[quote=Buster1651]@epicderp: huh. I would if I could be bothered. But I think you're overestimating the other 3. A capping dual blade, hits insanely fast and has plenty of lines. A capping shad hits 120mil per line and has plenty of lines. Hasn't orbital fireball (whatever its called) been nerfed?
Just watched BW bossing vids and still think a DB or Shad could outdamage capping[/quote]

OP didn't ask about capping. BW is in the top 3 for over all dpm. Obviously the list means nothing if the classes are just talking about maxed dpm.

@epicderp: huh. I would if I could be bothered. But I think you're overestimating the other 3. A capping dual blade, hits insanely fast and has plenty of lines. A capping shad hits 120mil per line and has plenty of lines. Hasn't orbital fireball (whatever its called) been nerfed?
Just watched BW bossing vids and still think a DB or Shad could outdamage capping

[quote=Buster1651]Dojo: NW -> Shad -> DB -> BW
Training: DB -> Shad -> BW -> NW
Bossing: NW -> DB -> Shad -> BW

NW is one of the best bossers so they're also the best at dojo
Dont know much about BW only that it sucks (especially after patch)
DB is great at training now that you got a 60 second asura and blade fury
Shad is just... average. Not good at much but aint bad either[/quote]

Educate yourself on BW, they're at least 2nd on the list for everything mentioned.

Dojo: NW -> Shad -> DB -> BW
Training: DB -> Shad -> BW -> NW
Bossing: NW -> DB -> Shad -> BW

NW is one of the best bossers so they're also the best at dojo
Dont know much about BW only that it sucks (especially after patch)
DB is great at training now that you got a 60 second asura and blade fury
Shad is just... average. Not good at much but aint bad either

I've destroyed all the Dual Blades in Dojo.

[quote=Kirbys]>= indicates it wins out narrowly, this is also assuming equal status in equipment

Dojo: NW>BW>DB>Shad

no im fairly sure it goes nw > shad > db > bw if they all cap.

You know..Night Lords are pretty cool too.
But in all seriousness, Dojo/Bossing goes to NW for sure, crazy DPS, but extremely poor mobbing

>= indicates it wins out narrowly, this is also assuming equal status in equipment

Dojo: NW>BW>DB>Shad
Training: BW>Shad>=DB>NW for normal people, unless bats do a LOT of damage, shad beats db slightly but it's preference at this point
Bossing: NW>BW>DB>=Shad for < 3m range, over 1m range, db and shad can be switched if this is not the case and if db doesn't have 50% buff duration