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Evan's certainly hit much harder than bishops, but I think you guys are oversimplifying the DPS calculations. You would have to take into account all skills that affect damage output to effectively compare dps across the mage classes.

@ho4show @0o0Abbadon0o0

Yup they got totally about 65% dmg boost not to mention others, but the skill I just found out called Magic Amplification if I recall correctly it says buff your skills 150% or something like that I'm not so sure. However, I/L and F/P mages also have that but it only gives 50% ? so that's why Evans hit like twice with less range than my other mages.

@nc4228: With the amount of HP mages have, I don't think it's possible for us to ever tank CVel's attacks. However, other classes definitely can (Pally +_+)

[quote=nc4228]No class unfunded would do well against stronger bosses. That being said, as an unfunded Evan, u would do some more damage but won't have nearly the utilities of a bishop.

So just play what u feel like playing.

@ReesaMapler most of the CRA bosses hit %HP so they won't usually 1 hit KO. That being said, the attacks that DO 1 hit KO can't be survived regardless of how much HP u have.[/quote]Pierre has something that hits for ~16k so everytime I'd respawn without buffs I'd get reeped if it hit me, but surive the same attack with buffs/higher hp

[quote=SorLilly]Some people do not realize this but there is a skill which Evans have that buff most of their skills by certain %damage, like Blaze isn't really 500%, it's more like 1000% without that skill i don't think Evans are strong unfunded. It's their secret that's why Nexon only gives them little lines despite cap easily.[/quote]

You're thinking of the lvl 150 hyper that Evan gets, like the guy above me said. It buffs like 35% damage but it only lasts 30 seconds if I remember right and has a cool down. Amazing shotgun/glass cannon effect though to power through the back end of a boss lol.

[quote=SorLilly]Some people do not realize this but there is a skill which Evans have that buff most of their skills by certain %damage, like Blaze isn't really 500%, it's more like 1000% without that skill i don't think Evans are strong unfunded. It's their secret that's why Nexon only gives them little lines despite cap easily.[/quote]

i think you're thinking of dragon fury, which is like berzerk and boosts our damage 35% when our mp is like above 35% or something easy like that. and blaze is 500%x4 so hello 4000% *_*

Some people do not realize this but there is a skill which Evans have that buff most of their skills by certain %damage, like Blaze isn't really 500%, it's more like 1000% without that skill i don't think Evans are strong unfunded. It's their secret that's why Nexon only gives them little lines despite cap easily.

Choose Bishop and leech to 200, if you're bored just change jobs to F/P or I/L.

No class unfunded would do well against stronger bosses. That being said, as an unfunded Evan, u would do some more damage but won't have nearly the utilities of a bishop.

So just play what u feel like playing.

@ReesaMapler most of the CRA bosses hit %HP so they won't usually 1 hit KO. That being said, the attacks that DO 1 hit KO can't be survived regardless of how much HP u have.

Having mained both I can give you a run down of pros/cons of each and the good stuff.

Evan:
Your major pros here are stupidly high damage % on like all of your skills basically from level 1-200. I can't think of another mage that has a higher damage % on their mobbing skills level for level or pound for pound that can match an Evan (Blaze is 500% damage iirc). For bossing Evan's are going to get you the most damage unfunded out of the options you've listed because of a couple reasons. For starters, Evan gets Elemental Decrease which is a buff that removes any and all physical/elemental attributes from your attack skills. This may seem like its negligible and maybe even stupid since it can occasionally nerf your damage on certain mobs, however the end game bosses that matter (Magnus, Gollux, Empress, all of the CRA bosses) all have 50% Physical Damage resistance which basically cuts your damage in half. Elemental Decrease removes the "physical" attribute of your attacks so to speak which means your damage doesn't get cut on those bosses like other classes will. Then lets not forget your main bossing skill (Illusion) is an extremely fast attack with over 400% damage, natural PDR built in, and natural % boss damage built in.

Now your cons of playing an Evan are for the most part lack of mobility compared to other mages and your scaling of damage. Of any mage I've played Evans have the least teleport range which does mean you move about a bit slower in bosses and such, though admittedly if you have the mount for Mir your double jump/glide and Dragon Blink can definitely compensate for that issue. As to my second point, due to the high % damage on your skills you'll hit harder when you start out than most classes but there comes a point at which your damage gets harder to increase due to the way damage formulas work out. I don't quite understand how this one works, don't ask me I'm not a mathematician (I just play one on TV ).

Bishop:
I left my Evan for my Bishop (playing it as a f/p for now till I can do 22m per line with Angel Ray on bosses solo buffed, that way I can still do my bosses without needing to buff my party like crazy for extra damage). Your major pros of the class are your support skills (Heaven's Door, Dispel, HS, AB etc etc), the fact that most parties will want you around, and for a support class your mobbing is pretty decent. Now mobbing wise 4th job Genesis does 780% and Big Bang will do 480% which is some relatively high damage out put if only at an average speed and range covered. for those of us who are a bit more funded, Angel Ray tends to do better (only 365% damage with 4 lines) because it doesn't take as long to cast as Genesis to set up Big Bang spam without the cool down.

In a bossing situation you're definitely not going to do as much damage as an Evan pound for pound for the same funding. You don't have elemental decrease for those end game bosses, your bossing skill doesn't hit as fast as theirs, and it has a lower damage % than theirs. What you do have over them in bossing however is survivability, utility and the fact that people want you there even if you can't attack. On the count of survivability, Angel Ray heals us and party members hit by it 90% HP. This means every time we dps a boss we heal, this is significant in boss with potion locks like Magnus, Cygnus and Gollux. We also have a fairly insane natural % Status Resistance which means we aren't hit by things like zombify, seduce or other nasty things as often. Utility wise, you have Dispel, Holy Fountain, Resurect, Heal/Angel Ray, Holy Magic Shell, Heaven's Door plus your passive hyper skills for HS and AB which add drop rate/more atk and matk/status resist/boss damage % to everyone who gets the buffs. Depending on the guild you're in/the friends you have people will sometimes just take you to boss runs honestly because you can use Heaven's Door for them and give them HS for more boss drops.

Last note I'll leave about Bishops as a pro will be your buffs. While your buffs aren't as OP or as crazy as something like Cross Surge you do have something called Blessed Harmony/Blessed Ensemble and Arcane Aim neither of which Evan's have.

"Blessed Ensemble:
1. Increases total damage by 3% in proportion to the number of nearby party members you have buffed. 20% bonus EXP for each Cleric in the party

Blessed Harmony:
1. The total damage increases by 5% for each party member that received the buff

Arcane Aim:
30 Ignores 20% of enemy DEF. When attacking enemy 3 or more times, damage will increase by 8% with 50% probability. Damage increase effect will accumulate up to 5 times"

In layman terms, more people in your party means a crap ton more range for you and then Arcane Aim puts it on even more roids if you are constantly dpsing the boss. my current range as a bishop I do 17-18m lines with Angel ray on bosses going solo, no party at all. I go with a full party and buff everyone on my buffs alone I do 23m per line and 25/26 with Arcane Aim up.

To be honest, the major con I would lay out for playing a bishop is the large amount of funding it would take to be able to at least duo most bosses (assuming that you wanna be funded to the point of running cvell).

TLDR: You'll do more as an Evan unfunded, reality is just play what you like and shrug off what anyone else tells you about it being a dumb choice.

What kind of bosses are we talking here?
If you are unfunded you will have poop HP and not be able to survive a single hit from a lot of the higher bosses, like cra where magic guard doesn't work.

I funded my bishop but even then it's still soso for bossing. I can go on lots of runs because people love door, but as an attacker I don't contribute much (attacks are very slow and so its hard to dodge hits while casting)

Evan is a pretty decent attacker... I would say that BaM is better though. (and you wouldn't have to worry about MG)

Basically, if you're okay with being reduced to support, go for bishop (or kanna even lolz)
if you want to solo stuff, evan is probably your better bet (or bam/lumi)

But it's pretty easy to level nowadays, you could always take them out for a test run before making your final committment.