quotFriendly guyquot insults a Chick-Fil-A employee
http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-chick-fil-a-20120803,0,2409892.story
Smith tells the employee that Chick-fil-A is "a hateful corporation" and "gives money to hate groups" and is "a horrible corporation with horrible values." The employee tells Smith that she's uncomfortable being videotaped, but he doesn't relent.
"I don't know how you live with yourself," he goes on. The employee, who maintains her composure throughout, finally wishes him a nice day. Smith says he will certainly have one, adding that he feels like he "just did something really good. I feel purposeful."
As he prepares to pull away, he describes himself as "totally heterosexual" and adds that there's "not a gay in me." He explains that he "just can't stand the hate" and concludes, "I'm a nice guy, by the way."
Saying that he "Can't stand the hate" and that "He is a nice guy", and yet he insulted the nice employee (Who did not raise an insult) .
And in a sign of just how nasty this controversy has become, a Chick-fil-A in Torrance was vandalized with graffiti.
Not saying that it was an Atheist (Because the CEO of Chick-fil-A is a Christian), but, insulting someone who has nothing to do with CEO decisions is too harsh yes?
What do you think? Is this the best way to express their feelings about something?
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His demotion was well deserved.
whats next? Burger king or Wendys or how about McDonalds.
[quote=uiluj4]But his business is booming because of the controversy [/quote]
Because Mike Huckabee rounded up all those hardcore conservative Christians with the "Chick Fil A appreciation day" and having Fox News advertise it. I find it depressing watching all those ignorant middle aged men and women talking nonsense and thinking they are somehow supporting a good cause by buying a bunch of chicken sandwiches en masse.
and he cares about this why? I'm a Christian and I can't make a connection to what that has to do with Chicken.(Really good chicken at that XD.)
[quote=Snovvy]@tjhermit: o.o I Don't know what you expect from you anymore. On one side, you defend evolution deniers, and say things like "well it's still a theory," saying that "their subjective perspective and their faith is a faith as well (comparing it to evolution, implying it's a faith,) and then you agree with me saying that they're wrong and that's all there is to it... then.. man I just don't know anymore.[/quote]
You know, I am human, sometimes i say the wrong thing. Sometimes I forget a period in my sentence. You can defend the right of people who deny something yet believe in something else, and vice versa. Again, I said it could be a tool that God used. You said something about that being impossible or something.
Just an F.Y.I., scientific theories are different then normal theories. In science a theory just means it covers a broader range of laws and facts, not that it's still being disputed.
[quote=Snovvy]@tjhermit: Evolution is an indisputable fact of life. Go study some biology. There's either accepting it, mindlessly denying it, or being ignorant. Those are your three options with evolution.[/quote]
Even with the conversation we had yesterday, i never denied Evolution. I even said that it could have been a tool....
You keep on taking words and stuffing them down my throat.
I am done with Biology. 4 years of it is good enough.
[quote=Snovvy]After what happened yesterday involving evolution... I have doubts as well.[/quote]
I mean I still stick with my ideals, you can stick with yours. Trolling, maybe not, being a bit annoying, maybe.
[quote=Fearless]Really nice, really nice.
Total score = 9/10
Obviousness = 2/10
Flame bait = 9/10
Act = 8/10
Glows:
* Really nice choice of flamebait; the bait did not scream "I'M A FLAMEBAIT".
* Idiocracy was held up really well in the beginning, not too stupid, not too smart.
* Trolled a nice amount of people. Really nice job here.
Grows:
* You made it a bit obvious that you were a troll after page 4. The ratio of stupidity/intelligence was unproportional
tldr - good job[/quote]
I respect your opinion. I thanks for the points?
If this is really trolling, then i got to get my act together.
[quote=Snovvy]Chick-Fil-A CEO is inhuman scum.
Employee may or may not be inhuman scum, slightly higher than average likelihood but no guarantee. Employee was not at fault.
Customer was in the wrong.
Article title: [b]ALL SIDES AGREE[/b].
What was the point of posting this? To really "get one" at the people who disagree with you?[/quote]
While I'm not against gay marriage, Adam Smith is a bigger loser than Don Cathy. You should be angry at Adam Smith, that guy just discredited the entire movement against Chick Fil A to the average person.
[quote=Snovvy]I would boycott based on opinion even w/o action. I don't want to directly support an indirect support of trampling human rights and equality.
However, I am the radical minority.[/quote]
Just out of curiosity, other than not wanting to redefine the word 'marriage', what is the 'trampling on human rights and equality' aspect of this CEO's behavior?
I'm actually asking for information- I'm not passing judgement on his actions, I honestly just haven't found 'the dirt' on what he did wrong other than be anti gay-'marriage'.
If it's just his not wanting to use the term 'marriage', then I honestly don't see the big deal. That word has always meant 1 man 1 woman, so a redefinition of it is something that rational, non-hate filled people can discuss. I've attended friends commitment ceremonies and have no issues with 2 loving people being together for the rest of their life. It's a different word than the current word we have to describe a 1-man-1-woman union, but other than that it's equal in all ways.
If, however, he's literally trying to stop gay couples from having legal equality (same property rights, inheritance, healthcare decisions, etc...), then that's pretty bad indeed and I can see why people are upset.
I've just seen too many people throw around the term 'hate group' when describing anyone who disagrees with their views, so I want to make sure I'm a bit more informed than I currently am before I label this guy a hater.
Any info you can provide to explain how he's a gay hater would be helpful and appreciated.
[quote=tjhermit]So therefore he can hate homosexuals and donate to homosexual hate groups. It was in one of Fearless's questions.[/quote]
Really nice, really nice.
Total score = 9/10
Obviousness = 2/10
Flame bait = 9/10
Act = 8/10
Glows:
* Really nice choice of flamebait; the bait did not scream "I'M A FLAMEBAIT".
* Idiocracy was held up really well in the beginning, not too stupid, not too smart.
* Trolled a nice amount of people. Really nice job there.
Grows:
* You made it a bit obvious that you were a troll after page 4. The ratio of stupidity/intelligence was unproportional
tldr - good job
[quote=MahLittlePonee]I'm not sure what you're asking me. Of course he donated towards anti-gay groups because he doesn't like gay people having the same rights. You can't logically donate to these groups and be [i]for[/i] gay rights.[/quote]
So therefore he can hate homosexuals and donate to homosexual hate groups. It was in one of Fearless's questions.
CFA CEO donates money to 'hate' groups: Meh
One dbag takes it too far: Ermagawd!
[quote=tjhermit]I thought people said if the reason why he fund the anit-homosexual groups is because he hate homosexual people?[/quote]
You are doing a great job, and I applaud you for it. I am ripping my hair while typing this.
You can hate homosexuals without donating to anti-homosexual groups. It's simple as that. If Apple's CEO came out for hating gay people, nobody would give a crap; if Apple's CEO came out for hating gay people [i]and[/i] donating to anti-homosexual groups, that would be a completely different story.
[quote=Snovvy]@tjhermit: I think I feel argumentative today. [/quote]
So does that mean you will run for presidency?
@Mahlittleponee: @Fearless: But does that prove that he didn't do it for that reason?
[quote=Fearless]Please tell me you are trolling. If you are, I congratulate on your success.
You do seem to understand [i]why[/i] people are boycotting CFA. People are boycotting CFA because they are funding anti-homosexual groups, not because the CEO hates gay people.[/quote]
I thought people said if the reason why he fund the anit-homosexual groups is because he hate homosexual people?
[quote=tjhermit]Are people boycotting CFA? Well are they?
@Snovvy, read the last paragraph of the thread. I don't understand what you are trying to do. Honestly you are wasting your time.[/quote]
Please tell me you are trolling. If you are, I congratulate on your success.
You do seem to understand [i]why[/i] people are boycotting CFA. People are boycotting CFA because they are funding anti-homosexual groups, not because the CEO hates gay people.
@Snovvy: "What do you think?" <- This is also a question, might be worded badly, but still a question.
[quote=Fearless]"Hitler was a cool guy, you know, minus the killing millions of people thing". Nobody gives a crap about his views on homosexuality. Do you honestly think people would start boycotting Nike because it's CEO hated gay people?[/quote]
Are people boycotting CFA? Well are they?
@Snovvy, read the last paragraph of the thread. I don't understand what you are trying to do. Honestly you are wasting your time.
[quote=tjhermit]I said "Minus the donating to a hate group thing". I am arguing that it is his opinion to voice his rights.
[/quote]
"Hitler was a cool guy, you know, minus the killing millions of people thing". Nobody gives a crap about his views on homosexuality. Do you honestly think people would start boycotting Nike because it's CEO hated gay people?
[quote=Snovvy]Why did you post this thread if all sides agree?[/quote]
There will never be a time when everyone agrees.
[quote=imtwocats]@tjhermit: Beside the point? So we can pick and choose quotes from the Bible to listen to, and ignore the others we dislike or don't want to follow? Really?
And here's a New Testament quote.
[i]Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5)[/i][/quote]
There are different types of Slaves, not all of them are like the ones we see during the 1800s. Debt bondage or bonded labor occurs when a person pledges himself or herself against a loan.
Not that i am saying it is a good thing.
@tjhermit: Beside the point? So we can pick and choose quotes from the Bible to listen to, and ignore the others we dislike or don't want to follow? Really?
And here's a New Testament quote.
[i]Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5)[/i]
@Imtwocats: Yes, while it is written in the old testament, it is also written that we can't eat shellfish nor pigs.
But that is besides the point.
@Snovvy: To prove that anyone can be scumbags. Seriously, out of all of these threads I seen, I see people blaming Christians the most.
EDIT: Those who choose to insult them or anyone else for expressing their opinion should be looked down even worse upon. (No offense).
Not trying to be insulting or anything.
[quote=tjhermit]@Imtwocats @MahLittlePonee
Well y'all, he was always Christian. I mean that is the reason why CFA doesn't open on Sunday.
Minus the donating to a hate group thing, (I hate to get into the christian thing again) but it is written that God does not like the act of Homosexuality.[/quote]
You can't justify hate because of your religion. And just because it is written in the Bible, doesn't mean Christians should follow it. I mean just look at the other things written in the Bible.
[i]However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46)[/i]
[quote=MahLittlePonee]@tjhermit: Being Christian justifies him donating to anti-gay groups who actively work to block gay couples from human rights?
Okay.[/quote]
I said "Minus the donating to a hate group thing". I am arguing that it is his opinion to voice his rights.
@Snovvy: there you are insulting people again.
[quote=ZombieOverlord]This is going to undermine the gay community's respect.
Talk about bad publicity.[/quote]
Undermine gay community's respect? Some people don't even believe they should have the same rights as us! hahaha
@Imtwocats @MahLittlePonee
Well y'all, he was always Christian. I mean that is the reason why CFA doesn't open on Sunday.
Minus the donating to a hate group thing, (I hate to get into the christian thing again) but it is written that God does not like the act of Homosexuality.
[quote=tjhermit]I mean the CEO expressing his opinion and not really hating on homosexuals.[/quote]
He is the CEO of a huge corporation who most likely has an army of PR consultants, and suddenly he decides to make a public statement about how he is against homosexual marriage? He should've known better then to do something like that.
It isn't childish, but very stupid of him to open his mouth like that and cause all this drama. What did he expect would happen?
tldr
This is going to undermine the gay community's respect.
Talk about bad publicity.
[quote=tjhermit]Does expressing an opinion make someone childish?[/quote]
Expressing an idea is one thing, donating money to suppress a group is another.
[quote=imtwocats]Going up to the drive through of a restaurant and yelling at a random employee about how much she should care about his opinion while filming it and then posting it on youtube the next day is indeed very childish.[/quote]
I mean the CEO expressing his opinion and not really hating on homosexuals.
[quote=tjhermit]Does expressing an opinion make someone childish?[/quote]
Going up to the drive through of a restaurant and yelling at a random employee about how much she should care about his opinion while filming it and then posting it on youtube the next day is indeed very childish.
Also adding the fact that he said she should be "ashamed of herself" just because she works there is absolutely pathetic.
[quote=Blowjobz]Lovin it how these innocent employees have to deal with the consequences made by their childish CEO.
At least the guy was fired, maybe he'll get a job at Chick Fil a.[/quote]
Does expressing an opinion make someone childish?
[quote=spring786]What's with these Chick-Fil-A threads? lol[/quote]
Because people get butthurt too much.
Sup man
OT: That guy's butthurt from being fired. He's pretty stupid for talking about that to the employee.
God, that guy is the biggest doushe on the planet. Why do people even care about homosexuality to begin with? While I'm personally not against gay marriage, I AM against DOUSHEBAGS like Adam Smith who try to harass employees who are just trying to earn a living. My advice to anyone who wants to protest against Chick Fil A is do NOT do what that guy did; he just hurt the entire credibility of the protest in that video, thank God he got fired from his job (though I have to admit, I've seen that video at least five times now and I [i]still[/i] laugh; it's pretty funny to see how full of himself he is).
[quote=uiluj4]homosexuality is the hottest political issue in the usa since segregation! all this excitement is getting me all tingly inside [/quote]
I know right? But why now?
I never understood why people bother employees when they're trying to make changes in a corporation. Like that poor girl has any say in the matter. For all that guy knew, she could have been gay (because they actually do hire gay and bisexual people.) I was a protester for PETA a long time ago and sometime people would want to throw this fake blood and faux feathers at the building/employee cars and I never went to those because all that does is leave a huge mess for innocent employees to clean up. I was not against tagging people with stickers though and leaving random animal cruelty pamphlets around public places
Ignorance shows no bounds.
The funny part is that he was fired from his nice cushy job as a CFO for it.
http://www.businessinsider.com/vante-cfo-bullies-chick-fil-a-worker-then-promptly-gets-fired-for-it-2012-8
But yeah, it's CFA doing the 'hating'
I like how the guy assumes the chick shares the same values & opinions as the head of cfa.
he isn't a nice guy if he's going to verbally abuse an employee who is incredible & can take the heat.
He was probably so "nice" (or just idiotic) that he was one of the many that blindly donated to the kony 2012 thing
Not surprising. Anything seems possible with how the world is nowadays.