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Hm. You could just some more atk. I have about 300% str and like 500-600 watk on my pally and my range is at 185k fully buffed with divine shield.

@ShMaiz3R: Im not saying his Aran one was BS, Im saying his hero one was. Even if he made a mistake he could of easily corrected after checking his character.

[quote=aznstyles]His heroes range is 130k clean. His Arans is 160k clean. Please tell me thats not BS[/quote]

His Aran range is completely possible with that %STR, for the Hero, he probably mixed it up with the Aran one, or had a 608 ST.

Last time I checked, TS was a human, and humans tend to forget and make mistakes, just like the majority of posters in this thread.

@Below: Take a look at his players page, the Hero is in Mardia while the Aran and the Paladin are in Scania.

[quote=ShMaiz3R]His range is fine, it's just Arans can get over double Paladins' ranges with the higher weapon multiplier and additional attack buffs.

Also, his Paladin isn't even 200, so it can gain around 10k more on top of his current range by max Lv. Add to that, the %STR is too high compared to the ATK.

@ People accusing him of BSing because they had higher ranges, state your real base STR/total STR/%STR/ATK first, then we will see who is BSing.[/quote]

His heroes range is 130k clean. His Arans is 160k clean. Please tell me thats not BS

[quote=Wangsihan]1. error in caculation.
tell me what made up your 236% str and 336 att imao.

my aran was lv 130 with like 40% str and 156 att, the range was already 35k?
if you have around 236% str and 336 att, you should have around 150-200k range despite what you said.[/quote]

i think he has like +2360 str and he thinks thats 236%. just a hunch though, haha.

1. error in caculation.
tell me what made up your 236% str and 336 att imao.

my aran was lv 130 with like 40% str and 156 att, the range was already 35k?
if you have around 236% str and 336 att, you should have around 150-200k range despite what you said.

His range is fine, it's just Arans can get over double Paladins' ranges with the higher weapon multiplier and additional attack buffs.

Also, his Paladin isn't even 200, so it can gain around 10k more on top of his current range by max Lv. Add to that, the %STR is too high compared to the ATK.

@ People accusing him of BSing because they had higher ranges, state your real base STR/total STR/%STR/ATK first, then we will see who is BSing.

We've asked an SS so many times, I kinda find it hard to believe him.

Try re-equipping in a different order. For some reason this added a small boost to my range. In your case it might add a bigger boost. Doesn't really make sense to me but just try it...

What. You've got a good 50% str more than me, and we have about the same total attack.
My range is twice that of yours.

I'm not believing this...

u did sumthing wrong, i have about 150+ ish %str and at lvl a 160 ive got about 68k unbuffed

@Tosmi: Thats not right at all, your heroes range shouldnt be that high if youre using the same equips between all 3 of you characters aside from weapons

@aznstyles: i dun remmber but it was around 130k

[quote=harrything]lol you did not have a 160k range on your hero with that mediocre att/str[/quote]

Alot of people on the first 2pages were mistaken, he said that his hero also had a higher range then his pally but didnt say how high, he just kept comparing it to his Arans range. Hes probably trolling

@Tosmi: Then whats your heroes range

[quote=aznstyles]Who has the 160k range, the hero or Aran.[/quote]

my aran

[quote=Tosmi]@iVege not only my aran, my hero too and im talking about clean range tho ofc there is the afa that gives att and all that but srsly? from 160k to 50k?[/quote]

Who has the 160k range, the hero or Aran.

[quote=Tosmi]im not trolling i can show u all right now since ur in scania too[/quote]

Last I checked you were like... 16x?

Just get to 200. Those 40 or so levels make a big difference.
If your range is still low then, I have no clue o.o

[quote=goegg2]Hes trolling guys.
Wow you guys are just too naive.[/quote]

im not trolling i can show u all right now since ur in scania too

I currently have similar %str on my pally, but my range is pushing twice yours at around the same lvl. Maybe your attack is too low, or maybe youre trolling. tbh, I'm inclined to believe the latter.

It's probably a glitch and Nexon is going to fix it soon.

[quote=Tosmi]so why is my range that low? what is ur pally?[/quote]

I believe what you're saying. I had 187% str and 387 weapon attack on my Paladin and only had a 55k range when buffed at 171.
Transferring those same %str equips to my aran gave me a 138k range clean. I think my hero had a 68k range buffed with the equips. Kinda hazy.
But yeah arans are cray.

@Tosmi:

Uh my pally is level 182 and my hero is 200.
Same equips, blessing, etc.
I'm really not sure why it's so low.

[quote=kidd978]How much dmg are u doing with your pally?[/quote]

i hit about 400k on none boss

[quote=Tosmi]so why is my range that low? what is ur pally?[/quote]

Its cause your attack is WAY too low.
Arans and heroes dont need AS much attack to balance out the str, but pallies do.
Get around 300 more attack, or just sell some str and buy more att gear.

[quote=Nhil]I just transferred my equips from my Hero to Paladin (Roughly 140% STR & 325 Weapon attack not including passive attack buff skills)
My Heroes range unbuffed was 43~58k and my Paladins range was 38~53k.
I'm not really sure why there is even that big of a different with the exception of the passive attack buffs heroes get.[/quote]
so why is my range that low? what is ur pally?

[quote=Tosmi]not missing anything...[/quote]

I just transferred my equips from my Hero to Paladin (Roughly 140% STR & 325 Weapon attack not including passive attack buff skills)
My Heroes range unbuffed was 43~58k and my Paladins range was 38~53k.
I'm not really sure why there is even that big of a different with the exception of the passive attack buffs heroes get.

[quote=Erudite]@Tosmi: Then how could it have dropped so much?..
Are you serious or something? I don't think this can happen..
How about you show us a ss of your range on your hero and paladin?[/quote]

yeah i can but some items need karma so it wont be the same...

[quote=Erudite]are you sure lol? your pally's range should be at least 130k+ unless your missing items..[/quote]

not missing anything...

[quote=Nhil]Let me transfer my equips over to my Paladin in a little bit and I'll tell how much difference there is.
But, honestly from 160k down to 55k doesn't even seem remotely right regardless have Heroes passive attack skills especially since Paladins and Heroes to my knowledge have the exact same weapon multipliers.[/quote]

that will be great! allso i have used one handed sword at both hero and pally

[quote=Tosmi]@iVege not only my aran, my hero too and im talking about clean range tho ofc there is the afa that gives att and all that but srsly? from 160k to 50k?[/quote]

Let me transfer my equips over to my Paladin in a little bit and I'll tell how much difference there is.
But, honestly from 160k down to 55k doesn't even seem remotely right regardless have Heroes passive attack skills especially since Paladins and Heroes to my knowledge have the exact same weapon multipliers.

Im not sure if its supposed to be that low but Paladin ranges are just naturally low.

Have you seen the Paladin Damage Range Thread?
Most of their damage out-put comes from their elemental charges.

@ImABidoof lol not working
@tonywashere yeah ik that but is it really 110k range diffrent? and it was my hero too...
@Nhil any idea?

Arans have higher ranges, like @iVege says.

@iVege not only my aran, my hero too and im talking about clean range tho ofc there is the afa that gives att and all that but srsly? from 160k to 50k?

[quote=Tosmi]ikr i had 160k range on my other warrior[/quote]

Because you're a Pally. If you're comparing it to your Aran, he has a higher weapon multiplier, Snow Charge and a over a hundred ATT in skills.

@ImABidoof ikr i had 160k range on my other warrior
@Nhil my total str unbuffed is 3.3k

Yeah that's not right at all.
Can you provide a screen shot or gave us your total amount of str?
I'm thinking you might have added something wrong though you are still missing about 200 str from levels.