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Do you think black lives matter is a terrorist organization?

The main discussion question is in the topic title.

Personally, I'm not sure how I feel about it. It's easier to have a non-committal answer because it makes less people mad.

July 18, 2016

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Dbenbaruk

I will write this comment from the view of an American soldier currently serving in the Army National Guard and has served in the active duty army, that focuses and works heavily in areas with heavy concentrations of African americans, such as Inglewood, CA. I have had to deal with being late to work/getting on base, because BLM protestors have found it useful to blockade the freeway by going hands across it. I have been spit on, been cursed at, been protested against. I have watched and listened as these protestors shouted " If it wears green or blue, kill it too." To signify to attack any person in uniform whether military or police. Mind you, the military has no fight in this, nor do we want a fight in this. Needless to say, of course there is institutional racism amongst cops against minorities. Nobody is disputing that. Cops could use better training and tweak some of their techniques to more effectively combat daily situations. Though, needless to say, I have worked with PD many times were minorities have just failed to cooperate and instead found it in their best interest to rebel and continue to fight back, mouth off, resist arrest, run away, or refuse cooperation. In my experience, regardless of the situation, if you cooperate with law enforcement, they will not have the need to go hard on you. Many in the BLM simply want more respect and change to the system, that is fine and completely understandable. What is not ok, is the revolutionists and extremists that don't want equality and fair treatment, but instead see police and whites as the devil and see them as enemies. That in itself is racism, to teach hate just because they are white. We have come to this conclusion in our nation, that for whatever reason, only white people are racist, and no matter what a minority says, it is not racism because they are, well minorities. This is deadly idealogy, especially coming from someone who deployed to Afghanistan and saw how realistic an ideology can destroy. BLM is not a terrorist movement, but they are an extremist movement founded under controversial basis. It's crazy to think that millions of police stops happen daily, yet how many are actual white on black violence? Maybe 15-20....out of millions per day. If BLM really cared about black lives, they would focus on blacks not killing blacks so much, look to Chicago.

Reply August 5, 2016
WindowLegs

they are rivals with the LGBTQ. ever since the sjw's stepped in and started inventing new genders and stuff, skin colour no longer mattered. so now BLM are forced to riot extra hard in order to be noticed

Reply August 5, 2016
Colour

eff those nqz held up im tryna see som diq daaaaaag

Reply August 5, 2016 - edited
AshleyAttacked

Exactly what @stoker said.

The main thrust of the movement may be tentatively peaceful...but there is definitely a dynamic in the movement that is at the very least revolutionary...and perhaps even violent and what we define as terrorism.

Reply August 4, 2016 - edited
Dragon11

They're not, not yet anyways.

Reply August 4, 2016 - edited
BenchPresser

@sirkibble: The amount of people who believe/think something to be true has zero correlation to how factually true it is. There are millions of people who think the Earth is 6,000 years old.

OT: No, BLM is not a terrorist organization. If anyone thinks that it is then they lack a fundamental understanding of what constitutes terrorism.

Reply July 28, 2016 - edited
Readers

@juniororeos: I don't think anybody in those circumstances "deserve" to be killed. I mean I don't know these people personally, so I can't judge for myself. (Though to clarify: I am saying there is something as to why those things happened, whether or not you think they "deserve" it.) Same goes for the other way around with the officers who were downed today and in Dallas too. Regardless, it's just a tragedy all around.

Reply July 18, 2016 - edited
JuniorOreos

@readers: you are awesome, you know that? even though alton sterling had a past, he didnt deserve to be killed (not assuming you implied that) all i can say is though, we never know what really happens unless we're actually there, the media shows what they want you to see

Reply July 18, 2016 - edited
Readers

@turtletable: I think because of its decentralization, its difficult to tell exactly what its goals are. It's not necessarily something I can blame on the movement itself though, as it would also have its own pros and cons were it to become more established as a hierarchical structure with clear representatives and leaders of the group (for example, not everyone will agree with what the leader is saying, which would make such a group less popular, less influential and possibly less relevant).

Especially sometimes you will hear about news stories that directly reference the BLM and may include statements or actions done by certain individuals who may or may not be affiliated with BLM, but regardless that doesn't necessarily indicate that those actions are representative of the BLM movement as a whole.

I will say though that movements like these do pop up for a reason, even if that reason isn't exactly a clear one. It's clear that given the attention this movement has received that there are issues out there that need to be addressed. So I don't necessarily think it's right to just brush it aside or to even deem it a "terrorist" organization. But at the same time these issues are not so black and white (pun intended).

For example, it was a Hispanic officer that shot Philando Castile. Alton Sterling had a big history of running into trouble with the law (which included firearm convictions). As a different example from all this; the man who drove that truck through Nice wasn't affiliated with any terrorist organization in any way nor was he identified as a Muslim, even though many are quick to jump to conclusions that this person was affiliated with such organizations. (ISIS will obviously call him as one of their own in order to serve their own interests just like they do with any other similar scale attack such as this one. This is even when the evidence points to the contrary.) Like I said, these are not black and white issues, even though the media and many others like to portray them as such.

But then again it's hard to say what's going on especially when more and more conundrum happens all the time, to the point where everything desensitizes us and nothing surprises us anymore.

Reply July 18, 2016 - edited
UpcomingNerd

Terrorists, no. Ignorant loud mouths, yes.

Reply July 18, 2016 - edited
TurtleTable

@readers: And how do you feel/what is your interpretation of the goals the movement is trying to achieve?

Reply July 18, 2016 - edited
Readers

No. It's not an organization. In fact, it's heavily decentralized as an entity. It's an activist movement.

Reply July 18, 2016 - edited