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Look, its not even Nexons fault

Some of you may blame ignorance on me, and I'm perfectly fine with that.

From some mediocre research, and all the complaining throughout Nexon's forums (and, of course, Basilmarket QQers), I've bothered researching the responsibilities of a video game PUBLISHER.

Here's something for you to read from Wikipedia and from another website I found off of Google that lists the responsibilities of a video game publisher (no, I will not use Google as a verb).

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_game_publisher]Here[/url]

[url=http://www.insidejobs.com/jobs/game-publisher]and here[/url]

Nexon's role as a publisher is to finance the game development, handle the marketing, and get its returns on sales (taken from the above website). No where from Wikipedia, or from insidejobs, does it state that Nexon is responsible for fixing bugs, and issues, or even to satisfy the community.

Flame on me all you want, but I'm giving my view on Nexon's innocence.

By the way, we should be thanking Nexon for even bothering to perform maintenance for all these years.

One last thing; if you have someone or something to hate, hate the game developers, not the publishers.

A comic to lighten the mood about verbs. [url=http://gregorykorte.com/gregorykorte/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/verbing_weirds_language.gif]Calvin and Hobbes[/url]

November 17, 2012

33 Comments • Newest first

uppercool1

[quote=TheMagi]Wizet, the people who develop MapleStory, are [b]part of Nexon.[/b] People don't realize that [b]They have been the same company for years.[/b]

That fact alone, makes your entire argument moot. Nexon takes part in development of MapleStory. It IS their* fault for how the game turned out. They [b]directly oversee and develop every bit of content, even GMS "exclusive" content, in Nexon Headquarters.[/b]

http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=2&title=What%20Every%20Mapler%20Should%20Know[/quote]

Hm, my ignorance points are at 3, now. Thanks for the information; my argument turned into a heap of grammar discussion, though.

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achyif

@uppercool1: on basil when you should be studying? tsk tsk

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sparkshooter

I still blame Nexon.

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TheMagi

[quote=uppercool1]I'll get researching on that after I get over with tomorrow's midterm.[/quote]

Wizet, the people who develop MapleStory, are [b]part of Nexon.[/b] People don't realize that [b]They have been the same company for years.[/b]

That fact alone, makes your entire argument moot. Nexon takes part in development of MapleStory. It IS their* fault for how the game turned out. They [b]directly oversee and develop every bit of content, even GMS "exclusive" content, in Nexon Headquarters.[/b]

http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=2&title=What%20Every%20Mapler%20Should%20Know

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PureWhiteSky

@Mooton dang, i forgot what fallacy that was. Part of whole fallacy?
anyways, because I agree with one of her points does not mean i agree with everything.
but yeah, you're right though, based on the limited info i gave you, it did seem like I was leaning towards the TS's view.

@superlols
did you now? It was hard to tell it was a rhetorical question.
But if you did, then pretend I didn't answer

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uppercool1

[quote=GuardianCreator]the thread's totally a discussion about grammar instead of OP's actual point...
Still love it though! Fun learning.[/quote]

Thanks for attending this english lesson, haha.

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GuardianCreator

the thread's totally a discussion about grammar instead of OP's actual point...
Still love it though! Fun learning.

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PureWhiteSky

[quote=Mooton]i never said you said it was.[/quote]

then why would you tell me something that you know i already agree with 0_o

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fonzie909

I agree .. Many of those who complain have a high level character and still keep on playing a game that they whine so much about.

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PureWhiteSky

[quote=Mooton]i assumed that you were on the OPs side, my bad. however, what he is saying is completely true.[/quote]

I never said it wasn't . .

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Merchant1014

[quote=superlols]@uppercool1: How is it a result of humanity's laziness? Don't you think that's a bit dramatic?
Please give me evidence that "humanity's laziness" is what caused google to become a verb.[/quote]

Read 1984, it's actually not laziness but a conspiracy.

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uppercool1

[quote=Jubilee]A university student (assuming that you are one) should know that Wikipedia is an unreliable source.[/quote]

It's reliable in many occasions; and, thankfully, this is no research paper.

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PureWhiteSky

[quote=Mooton]he was arguing about something you explicitly said
no straw mans here[/quote]

oh, did he?
I checked the posts again but I didn't find myself arguing that English language should not advance with culture.
enlighten me please.

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amoose330

I have always tried to tell people this, but as we know the stupidity of humans let alone the immature kids here is unmatched. I appreciate you taking your time and doing some research into this issue, to post links.

Bon Nuit

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uppercool1

[quote=Mooton]@uppercool1:
"(and, of course, Basilmarket QQers)"
"flame on me"[/quote]

"I try to avoid slang as much as possible".

I couldn't think of a possible alternate to "Basilmarket QQers".

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PureWhiteSky

[quote=superlols]@PureWhiteSky: Should we not advance the English language as our culture advances?[/quote]

straw man fallacy. I never argued that point,
i merely said it exists.

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PureWhiteSky

@superlols not anymore anyways.
but I think what shes trying to say is a group of people kind of mutated it into a word through culture, which is true.

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uppercool1

[quote=Mooton]@uppercool1:
so you acknowledge that it is grammatically correct, but refuse to use it despite it being grammatically correct?
im confused.[/quote]

Like a previous poster stated, using the word "Google" as a verb, is considered slang. I particularly try to avoid slang as much as possible.

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QuackOutLoud

TS, I totally agree with you anyways, most of the Maple community complain anyways.

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PureWhiteSky

[quote=superlols]@uppercool1: Explain how "young hipsters" are the reason google is a verb.
So many people of all ages familiarize google as a verb which is why it is now a verb.
I don't care whether or not you use google as a verb, but it [b]is[/b] grammatically correct when used as a verb.[/quote]

she does have a point there though.
Un-friending someone was supposedly made into a verb because of facebook.

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uppercool1

[quote=Mooton]if you want to waste your time by finding ways to say it without saying "googled", go right ahead, but no matter how much you think it isn't a verb, it still is.[/quote]

I only find it grammatically incorrect; but, we've already proven that it is grammatically correct (just not in all cases).

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LoveAsylum

Someone who finally understands. Everyone just wants to play the blame game.

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uppercool1

[quote=radkai]Profit correlates to customer satisfaction.[/quote]

The quantity of consumer surplus varies, though.

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radkai

Profit correlates to customer satisfaction.

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uppercool1

[quote=superlols]@uppercool1: How is it a result of humanity's laziness? Don't you think that's a bit dramatic?
Please give me evidence that "humanity's laziness" is what caused google to become a verb.[/quote]

I can not find evidence to my previous statement, and I apologize for the misconception; I simply abducted the result.

Google became a verb due to neologism, it seems. Young hipsters now-a-days seem to create everything. I'll just await the day until I can use the sentence: "I'm going to garbage it" without fear of being stared upon.

[quote=wrabacon7]I wouldn't use the term "flame on me" in a University English paper either. This is a forum, for a game, not a conference of English professors[/quote]

I'm not quite understanding where you're getting at, with your second statement, but, I'm also not stressing that everyone should not use Google as a verb, but in particular, that I won't be using Google as a verb.

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Masinko

[quote=uppercool1]Would you use Google as verb in a University english paper, or even simply, a research paper? Google has become a verb because it's used often due to humanity's laziness. I will not acknowledge Google as a verb.[/quote]

To be honest, I wouldn't use "googled" in a research paper because it's only one word, and I would rather say "a google search showed" because it takes up more space. As for the language as a whole, it will always change anyways due to humanity's laziness. If it didn't, we'd all speak like how people spoke in the Victorian era, and even before like in Shakespear's time.

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uppercool1

[quote=CreepersRUs]i can honestly understand nexon not fixing bugs and instead making more content and cahs shop items. they need money as a company cause lets face it.
with all the games they run their electricity bill must be huge. have you seen the amount of computer in that building?[/quote]

I haven't, but thanks for being on topic.

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CreepersRUs

i can honestly understand nexon not fixing bugs and instead making more content and cahs shop items. they need money as a company cause lets face it.
with all the games they run their electricity bill must be huge. have you seen the amount of computer in that building?

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uppercool1

[quote=superlols]@uppercool1: Let me google that for you.
http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/google
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/google[/quote]

Would you use Google as verb in a University english paper, or even simply, a research paper? Google has become a verb because it's used often due to humanity's laziness. I will not acknowledge Google as a verb.

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uppercool1

[quote=superlols]how come you don't want to use google as a verb[/quote]

It's grammatically incorrect. I could even throw around this sentence all day: "I'm going to garbage it". I can bet that 90% of the population would disagree that the word "garbage" shouldn't be used as a verb, while probably 50% can agree that any noun or pronoun shouldn't be used as a verb.

[quote=wush]nexon still has one of the worst customer support i have ever witnessed[/quote]

They're not responsible for satisfying the community.

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uppercool1

[quote=lionheart365]Nexon programs the game too.[/quote]

+1 for my ignorance.

Any more, and I'm willing to accept them.

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uppercool1

[quote=achyif]don't the game developers work for nexon anyways?[/quote]

I'll get researching on that after I get over with tomorrow's midterm.

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achyif

don't the game developers work for nexon anyways?

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