Updated Dps chart
I gathered the DPS calculated from JoeTang to make them up to date. This chart is since[b]Seed KMST 1.2.495 [/b]
This chart does not include SE bonus, and it uses the strongest skill table for each class. There's [b]NO OUTSIDE BONUS[/b].
1: Zero - Combinations* (51875%/s)
2: Eunwol - Spirit Claw - HP < 50% (21792%/s)
3: Kaiser (GMS) - trans+ Giga Slasher+ wingbeat+ command (20450%/s)
4: Fire-Poison Archmage - Skills* + mist eruption +Teleport (2'1%/s)
5: Battle Mage - Finishing blow+ Battleking bar+ Teleport (19555%/s)
6: Marksman - far Snipe (19465%/s)
7: Phantom - Arrow Platter+ Cross Over Chain (19302%/s)
8: Hero - Enrage+ Raging Blow (19072%/s)
9: Kaiser (KMS) - Giga Slasher + wingbeat + command (18810%/s)
10: Angelic Buster - Soul Seeker (18536%/s)
11: Wind Archer - Sky's song (17816%/s)
12: Bow Master - Arrow Platter+ Uncountable Arrow (17442%/s)
13: Evan - Illusion + Teleport (16943%/s)
14: Shadower - Mesos Explosion+ Assasinate (16803%/s)
15: Dark Knight - Gungnir Descent* (16757%/s)
16: Cannon Master - Cannon Barage (16156%/s)
17: Dawn Warrior - Solunar Time (Rising sun+Falling Moon) (15668%/s)
18: Corsair - Battleship Bomber (15351%/s)
19: Ice-Lightning Archmage - Chain Lightning+ Frozen orb + Teleport (14239%/s)
20: Mechanic - Misile Tank:Siege mode (13871%/s)
21: Demon Avenger - Exceed: Execution (13563%/s)
22: Paladin - sword+ Blast spamming (13502%/s)
23: Night Lord - Quadruple Throw (13134%/s)
24: Mercedes - Ishtar Ring (12841%/s)
25: Demon Slayer - Demon Impact (12639%/s)
26: Hayato - Shinsoku (12125%/s)
27: Blade Master - Phantom Blow + Final Cut (12040%/s)
28: Thunder Breaker - Thunderclap (11881%/s)
29: Bishop - Angel Ray+ Teleport+ Full party (11747%/s)
30: Aran - Beyonder (11516%/s)
31: Mihile - Soul Assault (11148%/s)
32: Wild Hunter - Wild Arrow Blast (11033%/s)
33: Buccaneer - Octopunch (10721%/s)
34: Xenon - Fuzzy Lob Masquerade Sniper (10381%/s)
35: Luminous (KMS) - Apocalypse+ Morning Starfall (8284%/s)
36: Luminous (GMS) - Ender ( 4770%/s)
Thanks to JoeTang from Southperry for the numbers:
[b]Mage:[/b] http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=49311&page=25
[b]Warrior:[/b] http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=47548
[b]Archer:[/b] http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=50733
[b]Thief:[/b] http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=50829
[b]Pirate:[/b] http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=50830
1st*: The combo used is available at the Warrior's dps page at the 1st page
2nd*: The skills used are available at the Mage's dps page at the 1st page
3rd*: Reincarnation's and Sacrifice's buff we'ren't on JoeTang's dps chart, so it's not added
[b]EDIT:[/b]
-Phantom's and Battle Mage's rankings has been updated. Thanks for the help, http://www.basilmarket.com/user/Trishock
-KMS Kaiser and Angelic Buster has been edited from JoeTang
-GMS Luminous has been added
-From a friend's request, Hayatos has been added
49 Comments • Newest first
luminous why
lf>buff
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNzM5NTAyMTQ0.html
Kms's final form kaiser can use all skills in final form after this patch. Still, these charts assume too many things so I don't have an opinion on it.
[quote=shizle1]mechanic 20th place thats right bby girl we making it to the top soon to be #1[/quote]
We will slowly conquer the other pesky jobs.
til mech and sair>nl
fk ya son dis chart is da bes
mechanic 20th place thats right bby girl we making it to the top soon to be #1
Loving how there's no Kanna included in the data
LF>KoC revamps.
@iKhirey: I've no doubt either since I depend of JoeTang's KMS chart :s
[quote=UAPaladin]@canerias: They got buffed in FLY and they're getting buffed again in the Seed update, which is 2 buffs in less than 6 months. I wouldn't really know much about KMS because i don't play it, but in GMS they're pretty good. Yeah, they do have high ranges compared to most other classes. Their multiplier is 1.4x which is about average but 2h swords have higher att than average weapons, they have passive buffs that add att, crit rate, and %boss, their transfiguration adds 30% damage (which is a HUGE range boost), and because of that their ranges go up by a ton if you get %att. They also attack extremely fast and have giga slash which hits 12 times (unlike with thieves who have skills that will hit that many times, but half the hits are from mirror image, which are only 70% of the damage of the others). Sorry for the hate on kaisers, I just see them as a little bit of a reskin of DBs but just stronger and they can ignore w.cancel and DR (that's the thing that annoys me the most about kaiser, lol).[/quote]
But at the end, they keep getting lower, like AB did
@canerias: They got buffed in FLY and they're getting buffed again in the Seed update, which is 2 buffs in less than 6 months. I wouldn't really know much about KMS because i don't play it, but in GMS they're pretty good. Yeah, they do have high ranges compared to most other classes. Their multiplier is 1.4x which is about average but 2h swords have higher att than average weapons, they have passive buffs that add att, crit rate, and %boss, their transfiguration adds 30% damage (which is a HUGE range boost), and because of that their ranges go up by a ton if you get %att. They also attack extremely fast and have giga slash which hits 12 times (unlike with thieves who have skills that will hit that many times, but half the hits are from mirror image, which are only 70% of the damage of the others). Sorry for the hate on kaisers, I just see them as a little bit of a reskin of DBs but just stronger and they can ignore w.cancel and DR (that's the thing that annoys me the most about kaiser, lol).
[quote=UAPaladin]I sure hope so. It annoys me how kaisers constantly get buffed. This "revamp" is the first buff DB's have gotten in a while. Kaisers don't need the buff anyways, they have really high ranges, they don't need like 310% damage on a skill that hits like 14 times[/quote]
How constantly Kaisers get buffed? They only got one minimal buff since their release.
Anyways at KMS Kaisers arent that good, especially taking into consideration that if you want to get the max DPS output the class can give you need to stay untransformed.
Also really high ranges? Kaisers are when unfunded one of the classes with the lowest base damage ranges and it needs much more stats than most classes to reach the same range.
[quote=Rokani]IDK I think Joetang might have just used BB and left our the required FB, I also believe he added in AFA witch does not proc for FB or BB.[/quote]
So I guess it makes Aran comunity feel a bit more prouder rite?
IDK I think Joetang might have just used BB and left our the required FB, I also believe he added in AFA witch does not proc for FB or BB.
[quote=Rokani]You can't do BB without doing FB. Here calculate it your self.
Base Crit .6 min 1.35 max 1.7
FB post seed: 450% (460% macro) delay .81s (.72 seconds if chaining into BB) Hypers for FB: 4 hits 1.2 extra damage (I left this one out of my calculations due to it stacking with % total damage and boss damage)
BB post seed: 640% for all strikes 1st strike 3 hits 2nd strike 3 hits 3rd strike 4 hits .6 .4 .6 delays respectively.
And a 35% damage skill.
(460%*1.55*4)+(640%*10)*1.35=11492/2.32=4953%*1.315=6513.8%*1.49=9705.5%/s[/quote]
So should I put Final Blow dps table or beyonder one?
[quote=UAPaladin]I sure hope so. It annoys me how kaisers constantly get buffed. This "revamp" is the first buff DB's have gotten in a while. Kaisers don't need the buff anyways, they have really high ranges, they don't need like 310% damage on a skill that hits like 14 times[/quote]
KMS Kaiser is weaker than GMS Kaiser. and its KMST so we don't know what will happen, which I still don't know why the TS didn't wait until after THE SEED hit KMS.
10 times but yea it's quite a lot... and it hits every .54 seconds with a fast sword...
[quote=Serenacle]with every class catching up or passing db, I think it'll get another one eventually[/quote]
I sure hope so. It annoys me how kaisers constantly get buffed. This "revamp" is the first buff DB's have gotten in a while. Kaisers don't need the buff anyways, they have really high ranges, they don't need like 310% damage on a skill that hits like 14 times
@Momijii: Yea, I didn't say Drks changed spots. I said the number was wrong. And if you are looking at the wrong job chart when comparing for boss% and PDR its going to be more than a little off depending on what your other job your comparing.
[quote=bluebomber24]@Momijii: No its wrong. The front page does not mean up to date. See last pages.[/quote]
Okay so he was off by less than 100%. Dark Knights are still in the same place anyways.
You can't do BB without doing FB. Here calculate it your self.
Base Crit .6 min 1.35 max 1.7
FB post seed: 450% (460% macro) delay .81s (.72 seconds if chaining into BB) Hypers for FB: 4 hits 1.2 extra damage (I left this one out of my calculations due to it stacking with % total damage and boss damage)
BB post seed: 640% for all strikes 1st strike 3 hits 2nd strike 3 hits 3rd strike 4 hits .6 .4 .6 delays respectively.
And a 35% damage skill.
(460%*1.55*4)+(640%*10)*1.35=11492/2.32=4953%*1.315=6513.8%*1.49=9705.5%/s
@Momijii: No its wrong. The front page does not mean up to date. See last pages.
In regards to DB, you guys need to keep in mind that his calcs is still skill% and ignores weapon multipliers. There is also scaling with PDR and Boss%, you know those reality stats. For example, with full RA set and Gollux pdr bonuses, codex and etc, a BM will outdpm a Phantom on a Boss Mob with 100% or more PDR at least per JT.
[quote=Rokani]Pre seed Aran has a 3130%/s, which is impossible due to it requiring you to pause briefly to break the OS chain so you do only the first 2 swings but this is still greater than doing the full OS, which is 2800%. Post seed FBBB does 3519%/s.[/quote]
but it's not about Final Blow, it's about Beyonder
[quote=UAPaladin]LF>better DB revamp[/quote]
with every class catching up or passing db, I think it'll get another one eventually
Pre seed Aran has a 3130%/s, which is impossible due to it requiring you to pause briefly to break the OS chain so you do only the first 2 swings but this is still greater than doing the full OS, which is 2800%. Post seed FBBB does 3519%/s.
[quote=bluebomber24]edit: TS has wrong numbers for Drks[/quote]
No he doesn't. At Faster (2) and Hypers they will hit 16,658% on one target.
[quote=Rokani]Aran doing 11k%/s? last time I checked Aran was doing 3516%/s or so w/o critical and no where on joetangs charts do I see 11k%/s.[/quote]
The Seed Patch Bro.
[quote=Momijii]It can't factor in your range because it deals with fixed %'s and not actual damage. A Xenon with 20k range and 2m range will deal the same skill damage % per minute.[/quote]
Yea, I think he changed it pre-visual realization after reading some stuff. It WAS calculated on 2m range before it was determined to be a visual....at least I am assuming it changed the numbers when he realized that.
edit: TS has wrong numbers for Drks
[quote=Rokani]Aran doing 11k%/s? last time I checked Aran was doing 3516%/s or so w/o critical and no where on joetangs charts do I see 11k%/s.[/quote]
It's from the last kmst edit from JoeTang, check that specific table on Hyper Skills
[quote=bluebomber24]Uh, pretty sure it does assume same range. I am currently trying to find where I read that.
And it also DOES include buffs but excludes any ATK stat (not the ATK% stat) for formular class variation reasons. It even states [i]All buffs are assumed to be used unless they don't provide any useful bonus[/i][/quote]
It can't factor in your range because it deals with fixed %'s and not actual damage. A Xenon with 20k range and 2m range will deal the same skill damage % per minute.
Aran doing 11k%/s? last time I checked Aran was doing 3516%/s or so w/o critical and no where on joetangs charts do I see 11k%/s.
Unless were doing FBBB*Crit*Weapon mastery*Buffs then I get 11528%... I still don't see 11k on joetangs charts however.
I still have no idea how to read this
@Momijii: Uh, pretty sure it does assume same range. I am currently trying to find where I read that.
And it also DOES include buffs but excludes any ATK stat (not the ATK% stat) for formular class variation reasons. It even states [i]All buffs are assumed to be used unless they don't provide any useful bonus[/i]
[quote=PilIsberry]Why is luminous kms version? Also why are we using morning star and apocalypse?[/quote]
Sorry I forgot to add the GMS version, and I used it bcse it's stronger than the Light version.
Bucc below bishops
[quote=RoodJood]Why is wild hunter really low? They have high dps now[/quote]
An error that JT found recently, same with Drks. As I said, before, JT hasn't perfected the charts yet which is why the summarized isn't updated. Granted in reality, WH do have high dps performance due to [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAITQ-F4pfE]Drawback[/url] and other skills.
[quote=bluebomber24]I believe it assumes everyone has the same range. Even though a BM with a 2mil range is like a 3m+ range for a xenon...but whatever, we all blindly follow charts right?[/quote]
It doesn't assume any range. That's the % damage you would deal. It doesn't include any buffs and it only includes attacks and hyper skills. While a Xenon's pretty easy to get to high damage, once they get there there is much room to expand.
Why is wild hunter really low? They have high dps now
[quote=Anthoy84]JT's table for Trinity was changed. Soul Seeker is still better.[/quote]
Thanks for letting me know
JT's table for Trinity was changed. Soul Seeker is still better.
[quote=p3rry]how are xenons so low O.O[/quote]
I believe it assumes everyone has the same range. Even though a BM with a 2mil range is like a 3m+ range for a xenon...but whatever, we all blindly follow charts right?
how are xenons so low O.O
So inaccurate i did my own calculation and got bowmaster to be almost double of yours.
[quote=Heatless]Wait so you made it by taking just taking someone else's chart?[/quote]
Joe Tang's dps chart. He always releases em when new stuff is out in KMS. He is pretty well known for it.
[quote=Heatless]Wait so you made it by taking just taking someone else's chart?[/quote]
I didn't made it, I just assembled the dps informations from every class.
It's still edited to JoeTang tough
He hasn't updated it because he is still verifying things. And then theres reality. In most cases a MM just can't out-dpm a BM realistically for most bosses. And I am more than sure he is calculating BMs incorrectly both good and bad for that class.
Why make a chart based on KMST anyway?
aww... dat lumi...
[quote=Alienstock]Since no one made up to date full DPS charts, I made it for everyone.[/quote]
What? You just blatantly copy someone else work, so how did you make it for everyone?
Thanks. Although I would rather like to see an AoE DPS chart.
LF>better DB revamp
i dont see beginners in this! wtf theyre #1