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@pinoymystic: Girls can't pee a certain way cause they're girls though.

There are only two genders and anyone who thinks otherwise should be dragged to a mental asylum with a straitjacket.

Who cares, dude. I never even cared and I hate that concept that you can't do something a certain way because you're a girl or you're a guy. Stupid.

Gender is a socialist construct

regarding all politics
as louis ck once said, "the truth is between us somewhere"

i do think that gender is on a spectrum and also is separate from sex (i dont have any proof but that just sounds like it's true and that seems to be the prevailing scientific consensus). be what you want, like who you want

but if you're real loud and annoying about it then i'll suspect you for being disingenuous

edit: if you're not cis then use whatever bathroom you look like you belong in

@beefly: Maybe I have, but my point still stands, there is only two in my eyes, going by the definition of the word.

@keyan22: You are confusing gender with sex.

I place this card in attack mode.

In certain religions, angels are described as being genderless, or gender neutral. I suppose some people could be born that way too, making a third gender.

There has only ever been two official genders, however, some people born with two organs or are transitioning could be considered a third, everything else is just some fantasy.

Gender � sexual orientation

It also has nothing to do with what you identify as unless you are willing to completely change gender.

@blazar: http://www.growingmarijuana.com/images/plant-sexing.png

@lukiie: Physical as in restrooms that can follow self identification for example.

Also that's your own fault.

That's funny. The second thread I clicked is by YOU too. That's a little annoying.

Fem and masc as physical categories? You must be ill in the brain.

@readers: Well, I simply believe that if you're not someone who has to be associated with the society in a daily basis, I'll imagine the impact of these identities crisis are rather minimal. I meant, sure, I'll address someone else's gender based on their look in the first place as asking their real gender as the first topic to start a conversation doesn't sounds too good to me, but if they are to clarify their very specific gender(s), I'll just say, "okay, that's cool", and probably throw in an apology if they seemed to be offended greatly, then use the...appropriated title to address them in the future. It happened a few times, but it never became a daily issue I've to tackle everyday.
In regards of science, I've no issue with people identify themselves as X or Y gender as long as they don't mix up the difference of gender and sex, but then again I probably wouldn't care less and just agree with them on the surface even if they are wrong in distinguish the two and move on with my life.
Or you can say that I'm not afraid of judging people, and not afraid of being judged as well if you want to extend the margin to this stage. Masks are convenient tools, but they are only so useful in specific situations before their persona begin to shape who you really are in the end. I don't think that'll be nice to use them in a daily basis and it's easier to accept things as they are instead of questioning about their essences because more often than not, they are simply the matters we can never understand even if we try to.

@animus: I used to think that way too about some certain things, because it probably is the case that others don't mean any harm when they're promoting non-binary genders. Also, it definitely isn't as much of a pressing issue in comparison to other problems in the world that are much more urgent and need immediate solutions, especially when this issue really applies to a select minority of the population. But I think dismissing the issue is to ignore the impact that they have on our lives - because this kind of stuff does impact our lives.

It impacts discussions on science - especially in regards to the human biology, and obviously other disciplines. It impacts discussions about one's identity - because now we have to be considerate of how others define themselves.
(To elaborate on this further: for some, it's about describing things that go beyond the male/female labels. For others, it may be more about orderliness and not disrupting the state of affairs of things by having a billion different genders to refer to and having to always keep tabs on them so as to not offend and misrepresent those particular people. In that sense it goes against self-expression of one's own identity, as the infinite regress of genders creates a sense of disorder. So in other words, you may think you may not be hurting them and so they won't hurt you, but they could take offense to it as such depending on how you react, whether you misinterpret, misrepresent, or just ignore other genders in general - and they may look to hurt you back for it. For example, imagine if you identify as male, but everyone and everything around you refers to you as a female, or if you're female, everyone and everything refers to you as male. It may probably irritate you greatly. In that sense it matters.)

You see how many forms nowadays that you have to fill out for certain things (ex. registering for Facebook) that now incorporate many different genders beyond the binary. You hear about non-binaries in media, in politics with regards to ideologues and pushing for certain messages and agendas to the entire populace. There's probably other examples of where it affects our lives, but I could go on forever about it.

I wish that there were easier ways to solve - or perhaps to even ignore these issues. However, the way it has seeped into our lives makes it so that we cannot back out of the matter. Even if you don't publicly express what your stance is on the issue, you are going to have a stance on the issue regardless of if you like it or don't.

I think there are infinite genders, but only two sexes. Actually the third sex is intersex, so there you go.

Genders infinite, but sexes three.

There are 2 genders.
All others are either attention seekers or mentally impaired.
The two genders are : one eyed snake and american pie.

@ecarina: Well, the definition you speak of is not widely viewed that way. In fact, I believe it to be a different concept than what is normally viewed as gender and should be given a separate word which is related to individual psychology.

The bad is that it is kind of forced and confuses people.

The good is that it leads to a more logical worldview which acknowledges individual perceptions of reality.

Unfortunately, this is still not concrete.

We do not have an clear, concrete understanding on the true way to view life and reality and to define it. =/

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Anyone remember this thing?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDsYaHtMpBo

I have no idea what this thread is about, dood.

Plant genders... wait do plants even have genders?!?! o.o

@ourania: wow im sorry for u if the existance of a person too odd for your views annoys u so much

I don't really care. They are not hurting me. They can be anything they want to be as long as they don't butt in my life. To be worked up for strangers' issues is quite a silly thing to do.

@readers: Oh man that ice cream one makes me want to kill myself
Is there an entry requirement that all liberals must be insane or something?

Gender is a spectrum, there is no concrete number.

People tend to mix up gender and sex, since they used to have the same meaning, and mistakenly think that gender is related to biology. Your gender is how you identify, which is why a transgender woman is able to feel like a woman regardless of whether or not she has had surgery. Your sex is the biological one, based on your internal and external sexual organs. People also mistakenly think that this is a binary, but there are people (around 1.7% of the population) who are born Intersex, usually with non-matching internal and external sexual organs (so a schlong and ovaries, for instance).

People also tend to think of transgender people as a third gender, which is puzzling since that kind of defeats the purpose. A transgender woman is a woman who was born male, it's weird to put her in a third category when she identifies with women.

Gender is honestly pretty nebulous, like to really go into it you'd have to go into what it means to be a man or what it means to be a woman and where they overlap and whether that counts. That's why I think giving it a definite number is silly.

I can assume two things: either the word is grounded in logic, or it is grounded in personal emotions. If it is grounded in logic, I would say the term caters to and refers to the common interpretation of what it means to be a certain gender, which changes based on individual perceptions or the social definition at that time, and that it means their gender would switch between different perceptions or a mixture of them at any moment -- that it is not consistent (solid if you want to make a parallel with states of matter). This could be an acceptation of the fact that people have perceptions of what constitutes a gender rather than mean their gender literally changes between two strict pre-defined roles. On the other hand, if it is grounded in emotion, then I would say it is an attack or disagreement with the current gender roles or perception on what should be normal for a boy or girl.

So it may not be stereotyping genders.

@vivabasura: How is that a joke? Do you really think those kinds of people are normal? This is what human had progressed when they are given too much freedom and access to many things. The society we have today is pretty much a backwarded culture despite all the advancements we have now. This is just a pain in the ass to see.

@ourania: did u just take @greatbolshy's joke and added some edge multiplier

@okaythen: people who feel like a boy one day and the girl the next and both or neither the next hour

Sorry for being dumb, but what is genderfluid?

@beefly: It's also unfortunate given Bill Nye's background in science, especially as a communicator and promoter of scientific pursuit. When science becomes politicized in such a fashion, it's no wonder when guys like Trump start denying climate change especially when those issues enter into the realm of politics - and when others (for example, Trump supporters) also follow suit.

@readers: I see how Trump won. Here's for the next 8 years. Natural environment will cease to exist because of special snowflakes.

@beefly: But only our Glorious Leader Bill Nye can science us into thinking that there are many genders!

(Disclaimer: Of course this type of stuff really falls into more of the social sciences and other fields beyond Nye's expertise, and Nye himself isn't really giving any scientific facts or argumentation to back up these points, sogivenallthatofcoursehe'sanidiot but we must trust in Bill Nye!

Oh and of course disagreeing with any of this automatically makes you a conservative shill. Of course.)

@readers: No don't send Bill Nye after me.

Apparently there are many, even the vagina has a voice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wllc5gSc-N8

Even ice creams have genders too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46h-LfNWPn8