Hero Inner Abilities
Hi,
I'd like to know which inner ability would be optimal for a hero (at bosses, not for training).
I'm thinking,
% boss (which is multiplicative)
+1 attacking speed
I know that buff duration does not, in fact, affect hyper skill buffs. So, that's out of the window.
I'd like to hear more about your opinions and views regarding this topic.
Prefer if heroes answer this thread.
If you have a specific IA or a combination of IA that you think is optimal, please post them along with your reasons as to why you chose these IAs.
Patiently awaiting your responses.
~ Lex
Edit: Does buff duration affect the duration of Darkness induced by Panic. I don't think it does, but just checking to be sure since MS isn't exactly glitch free.
April 7, 2013
23 Comments • Newest first
+1 attack speed seems awesome, but Hero's natural ability is the best.....
And that's to be fun as hell for no apparent reason
[quote=matdl]Your inner abilities get reset in unlimited so..[/quote]
source please.
[quote=matdl]Your inner abilities get reset in unlimited so..[/quote]
Does it really?
@Kuraisenshi:
That's what I basically said
I stated that with JUST booster, you can't speed cap with a Stonetooth.
The only weapons that CAN speed cap with only using booster are the 3 previous named weapons.
But you can even speed cap with a normal (6) weapon if you have dSI, 1Aspeed ability and booster.
Heck, you can even speed cap with Slower (9) if you use AYA, SI, 1Aspeed ability and booster.
[quote=StraatLamp]You can't speed cap with a stonetooth by only using booster because Stonetooth is Fast (5).
Pyrope sword, red katana and the lunchbox are the only 1h swords that are Fast (4), meaning that only they can hit speed cap by just using booster.[/quote]
Depends if person has Speed infusion, booster stone tooth and the increase wa speed inner ability
[quote=Kuraisenshi]increase wa speed or boss damage however speedd boost inner good luck but @straatlamp did you remember to include the only two handed sword that is fast is stonetooth sword[/quote]
You can't speed cap with a stonetooth by only using booster because Stonetooth is Fast (5).
Pyrope sword, red katana and the lunchbox are the only 1h swords that are Fast (4), meaning that only they can hit speed cap by just using booster.
increase wa speed or boss damage however speedd boost inner good luck but @straatlamp did you remember to include the only two handed sword that is fast is stonetooth sword
@FangKingRei: Booster = +2 haha
Pyrope sword + red Katana and the famous lunchbox are the only 1h swords that can cap speed without SI/Inner ability.
@David0696: Well, if you think like that perhaps.
Tho if you have 0% boss and get 2000% it increases the dmg by 2000%.
Well my sword is fast 4 so I settled for 23% crit rate since we got boss dmg from hypers
I find decent SI kind of annoying. It's a waste of potential lines. Not to mention, I use dojo gloves so switching my gloves for SI and back can be quite troublesome during bossing due to the fact that heroes have low avoid.
Anywho, I just rolled a 14%boss on a circ, so I'll keep it for now.
[quote=dracox5234]If you have a normal(6) weapon get +1 attack speed.
If you have a fast(5) weapon get +1 attack speed.
If you have a fast(5) weapon and Decent SI don't get +1 attack speed.
If you have a fast(4) weapon don't get +1 attack speed.
If you have a slow weapon get a new weapon.[/quote]
can't get any more simple than this
If you have a normal(6) weapon get +1 attack speed.
If you have a fast(5) weapon get +1 attack speed.
If you have a fast(5) weapon and Decent SI don't get +1 attack speed.
If you have a fast(4) weapon don't get +1 attack speed.
If you have a slow weapon get a new weapon.
If you cap, then you probably should go for attack speed. I especially like it for mu lung dojo since it lets me sneak in one more attack more easily and still be able to make the spawn timer.
But to get it, I used almost a thousand circulators.
@Galavan: For example of you have 100% boss already and then gain an additional 30% boss, you damage increases by 15%.
New/Old
[100%base100%boss30%boss]/[100%base100%boss]
[230%]/[200%]
1.15x
Your new damage is 15% higher than your previous, not 30%. As you get more and more %boss, getting additional %boss becomes less efficient when it comes to crazy inner abilities like attack speed, critical rate, etc.
[quote=David0696]http://maplearchive.com/search-wp.php?search=raging%20blow
I think what we are concerned here is with speed (2) versus speed (3). [630ms vs 690ms]
If you make the switch, you attack 9.5238% faster. [690ms/630ms]
So for example of you are skipping over something, make sure it does not increase your damage over time more than 9.52% on a boss, since this is what you are concerned with. If you have a lots of %boss already, more %boss becomes less efficient when compared to other options.[/quote]
How can more % boss be less efficient? It would always increase your dmg on bosses by the percentage added, no?
http://maplearchive.com/search-wp.php?search=raging%20blow
I think what we are concerned here is with speed (2) versus speed (3). [630ms vs 690ms]
If you make the switch, you attack 9.5238% faster. [690ms/630ms]
So for example of you are skipping over something, make sure it does not increase your damage over time more than 9.52% on a boss, since this is what you are concerned with. If you have a lots of %boss already, more %boss becomes less efficient when compared to other options.
I hear ya. Dat speed is so gud.
I skipped over buff duration and 27att as well.
Haven't got crit yet. I cubed over +1 monster as well.
I've already skipped over 27att, 21% crit and 43% buff duration. I must have speed attack!
Soo, I guess I was right, gunning for speed +1 / %boss / %crit.
I would honestly go for speed cap, so +1 attack speed.
Just because I'm used to speed capping with my maple pyrope sword.
But I would settle with 10+% critical or 10+% boss, that's something that would make me as happy.
@FangKingRei: Oh, ok. Ty for the input. I really appreciate it. ^_^
LF> more replies please.
Well, regardless of whether you're 2h or 1h. End game swords do not hit the speed cap w/ booster. So +1 attack speed would be necessary if you don't have SI.
Straight up attack seems to pale in comparison to the other options available. I was thinking about getting crit % since heroes do lack crit.
I'm leaning towards +1 speed or %boss or both or %crit. Attack never crossed my mind, but ty for the input.