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Rant on the new revamps

Why did nexon make arans so OP now, I see little arans and their 120 att psbs with little to no funding do 150k+ per hit.
What do you guys think of this new revamp?

March 17, 2012

34 Comments • Newest first

daringwaffle

@EvilPolitics: they have a 45% damage boost, and spirit surge gives them 60% crit anyways. with decent SE we have higher crit than a WH.
45% damage boost>50% more damage on WAB

20k range each clean.

WH 270% of 20k = 54k per arrow
220% mercedes = 44k per 2 arrows
buffed mercedes jumps up 45% dmg
29k buffed = 63.8 per 2 arrows, thats not including 40 atk and 40% chance to ignore all defense and 20% defense drop
not to mention we can potential arrows, while WH only have xbow

Only thing thats really debateable is 100% stance making a big difference.
even without decent SE we are only 5% crit rate and crit damage behind.

Reply March 31, 2012
pedropimp101

[quote=EvilPolitics]Seriously! Why does everyone rant about Arans and Evans on and on... And when they don't, they rant about how OP Battle Mages and Mechanics are.

Seriously, I've got news for you all! Wild Hunters are the most OP at the moment! Haven't seen an Aran or an Evan under level 150 that even got close to the damage (DPS) that I do.

WH's are dealing by far the highest single target dps atm. Wild shot does 270% now, Feline Berserk is now active for 120 secs and has a cooldown of 150 secs (4/5th of the time) and has AFA.

Today I killed Pap in about 60 seconds, Pianus in 90 seconds (gotta hate the melee prot) and now I solo at LHC and kill a Crock in about 10-15 seconds and get around 1 level every 30 mins. And oh yeah did I mention I am level 120-121.[/quote]
im kinda happy you are like the one of the few people that noticed tat about whs but then again im jsut happy not seein as much as the other classes (i can protect my map at least which im glad for)

Reply March 30, 2012
daringwaffle

@EvilPolitics: i wouldnt say WH are the best bossers, but theyre definitely up there.
Personally i think Mercedes is better, even tho IR is 50% dmg less than WAB but they get 45% dmg 100% of the time and 40% chance to ignore defense, 20% def drop monster debuff and something unicorn strike does too
I can see your point, but they arent OP in my opinion. they may be fast but i found it wasnt so great using the WH double jump, especially on ropes.
And i havent seen mobbing recently but their skills were slow and weak before revamp, ill have to check mine out.

PS. how exactly do u get the white jaguar? :O

Reply March 30, 2012
CountOnMe2

10k range and hitting cap omg so OP OP OP OP OP OP

Reply March 30, 2012
daringwaffle

[quote=EvilPolitics]Seriously! Why does everyone rant about Arans and Evans on and on... And when they don't, they rant about how OP Battle Mages and Mechanics are.

Seriously, I've got news for you all! Wild Hunters are the most OP at the moment! Haven't seen an Aran or an Evan under level 150 that even got close to the damage (DPS) that I do.

WH's are dealing by far the highest single target dps atm. Wild shot does 270% now, Feline Berserk is now active for 120 secs and has a cooldown of 150 secs (4/5th of the time) and has AFA.

Today I killed Pap in about 60 seconds, Pianus in 90 seconds (gotta hate the melee prot) and now I solo at LHC and kill a Crock in about 10-15 seconds and get around 1 level every 30 mins. And oh yeah did I mention I am level 120-121.[/quote]

Who would complain about BaMs being OP when they look at an evan o.O
You cant convince me a WH is more powerful than an evan.
have u even looked at how huge they got buffed?

Not that i really care or i wanna whine, im just saying nexon always buffs classes a BIT too far, then everyone btches and they have to do it over and over again.
I think it woulda been smart not to buff these guys so dam much

I think all resistance class got a fair buff( i dont even know how u guys can complain about BaM being OP.. all it got was a bit higher main attack thats on par with everyone, and stacking auras is not OP)

Reply March 30, 2012
Deadly1337

@legacyofryu atleast phantom wont be stealing all of YOUR skills. bishops will be nothing for the first month before people realize the sheer amount of funding it takes to sustain a phantom and be decent

Reply March 30, 2012
Zovea

@Deadly1337: Scrolling Empress mage equips is a pain in the ass. F nexon for not making GM mage scrolls.

Reply March 18, 2012
koopa2488

Hm. These basilers doesn't know that his ds is NOT his most played character. Look at his players. He has loads of 150+, which means he isn't one of those types who constantly plays on op classes

Reply March 18, 2012
Deadly1337

[quote=Zovea]You sir have made some mtser a happy person and my range increase drastically.[/quote]

lol !

someone pointed that out to me one day, But i'll stick with my empress for the set bonus

Reply March 18, 2012
IamDeamy

Lucky Arans.

Reply March 18, 2012
ibrahim65432

d/w they will get nerfed.

Source:
Logic

Reply March 18, 2012
mrspike188

@spyyduh theyr pointing out hes a ds because he is complaining about how arans got buffed and theyr op when ds is the most op class in the game. arans are finally balenced and they deserved a revamp. i swear people should be forced to take an iq test before they post something

Reply March 18, 2012
abilas26

Nah I like it.
Got a lot of Arans/Evans in my guild, which means boss runs go by a LOT faster > : D
Just don't like all the bandwagoner Evans/Arans coming. To much KSers </3

Reply March 18, 2012
oNikkiBby

[quote=EvilPolitics]@MyTiramisu: about 70% dex, 160 wa crossbow, all blessings and more stuff. Damage range with a warrior pot and Feline Berserk about 22xxx-27xxx at level 122.

But that still isn't an excuse that I outhit level 145 Arans and Evans. Yesterday I was at LHC with a 158 Merc in my party and I outhitted her so badly that she almost did twice as long over killing 1 Crock... She was even slower at killing multiple Crocks. Swipe deals 1200% damage now ^_^[/quote]

Just so you know, WH's are the most heavily outclassed class. If you had roughly the same items (like that stats on your xBow comparative to another classes' weapon) they would have 50k+ range. My WH is 142 with about the same equips you have and I quit it because I know if I had an Aran with the same equips or whatever character I would have 50k+ range.

Reply March 18, 2012
Zovea

[quote=Deadly1337]best we have is 27matk bwg[/quote]
You sir have made some mtser a happy person and my range increase drastically.

Reply March 18, 2012
ZeroRex

There Hero class's, there supposed to be OP. DS needa get nerfed already

Reply March 18, 2012
BubblingX1

... says the Demon Slayer.

B> earplug

Reply March 18, 2012
ChildCrusade

I should quit my hero.
DS has everything my class has and more. Mobility, mob control, etc etc

EVAN is where it's at
love the freaking dragon

Reply March 18, 2012
Deadly1337

oh lordy.

thieves complained about the upcoming revamp.
bishops complained about the phantom stealing skill
warriors are complaining because arans are better then them

adventurers are always left in the dust by the newer classes.

if your worried about damage, merchant and buy better items, simple as that.

warriors are extremely cheap to fund, so what's the problem.
mages dont have 38matk vss, 30matk masks, best we have is 27matk bwg and duped ele staffs, both of which are useless to my bishop.

Reply March 18, 2012
reedpipes

says the DS. You make me LOL.

Reply March 18, 2012
bowmushro0m

i don't mind them, what i do mind is that arans, evans, and dual bladers seem to get a total revamp every 6 months xD bowmasters have had 2 major changes (bb which changed everything. and jump) and VERY small changes in the other patches. while dual bladers, arans, and evans were changed: bb, chaos, the alliance patch, the new alliance patch, and db's just got revamped again in kms xD

Reply March 18, 2012
Laguniroth

[quote=geralddino]Says the DS...
And... they are heroes. They are supposed to be stronger than other classes. So stop QQing and live with it.[/quote]

I disagree with this statement. There's no difference between adventurers and "heroes" except for the fact that they tried (and failed) to destroy the black mage ages ago.. and got pwned for their efforts. I agree they shouldnt be weaker, but to say that they should be inherantly stronger pretty much undermines the entire core of the game.. that YOU are the hero, regardless of what class you choose to play.

Reply March 18, 2012
Spirit2roam

Dude....Arans used to be considered one of the weakest classes in maple before any revamp for them. Think about that.

Reply March 18, 2012
infinteZero

i find this funny every time i see it
look he hitting harder then me he has a purple serf board hmm thers no way he could afford godly gear his serf boards prolly 120 att

so did you see the so called 120 att psb? or did you just say hay its a 120 as theirs alot of thos in fm... i had a 154att 135att and a 119att psb sold them but yah
and did you also see the rest of his gear? people jump to omg that's class is op with out thinking maybe they have a good scrolled weapon and gear with x% of there main stat alot

Reply March 18, 2012
MyTiramisu

[quote=EvilPolitics]Seriously! Why does everyone rant about Arans and Evans on and on... And when they don't, they rant about how OP Battle Mages and Mechanics are.

Seriously, I've got news for you all! Wild Hunters are the most OP at the moment! Haven't seen an Aran or an Evan under level 150 that even got close to the damage (DPS) that I do.

WH's are dealing by far the highest single target dps atm. Wild shot does 270% now, Feline Berserk is now active for 120 secs and has a cooldown of 150 secs (4/5th of the time) and has AFA.

Today I killed Pap in about 60 seconds, Pianus in 90 seconds (gotta hate the melee prot) and now I solo at LHC and kill a Crock in about 10-15 seconds and get around 1 level every 30 mins. And oh yeah did I mention I am level 120-121.[/quote]

It all depends on how funded you are. What sort of equips do you have?

Reply March 18, 2012
MyTiramisu

I believe the revamps are deserved.

Reply March 17, 2012
Handsome

time to make a aran

Reply March 17, 2012
MSVeteran05

some thought they were badass coming into my maps in Future Henesys and failed at ksing me

Reply March 17, 2012
FlawedKnight

I don't know why people are complaining about my class, sure I have a Demon Slayer, but look at my player page. Its not my only character.

Reply March 17, 2012
Cutout

youre spoiled

Reply March 17, 2012
Edwinight

[quote=edwinmzx]bwhahahhaha says the ds.[/quote]
I agree with myself.

Reply March 17, 2012
geralddino

Says the DS...
And... they are heroes. They are supposed to be stronger than other classes. So stop QQing and live with it.

Reply March 17, 2012 - edited
AckarRed

How do you know that's not his main?

Reply March 17, 2012 - edited
evilslasher

Oh god, you're a DS.

Reply March 17, 2012 - edited