Why Its Stupid To Hate Call of Duty So Damn Much

[quote=derakappy]Then why did you post it in the first place? Expecting to post something like that and not get flamed at.[/quote]I don't mind flaming, but at least flame correctly. There's no point in flaming someone for sharing something. If you want to flame me, then flame my previous comments.

"good job contradicting yourself."
You thought these were [i]my[/i] words and I simply pointed out where you were wrong. I'm not being butthurt about getting flamed. (I read your second comment as me getting butthurt, because of the "Expecting to post something like that and not get flamed at".)

"Expecting to post something like that and not get flamed at."
I wasn't expecting not to get flamed, seeing as how this was just sharing a link along with what the link contains if people don't feel like clicking it.

In all honesty I think you were in the wrong, with that first statement. Now you seem to have turned it into a situation where I'm to blame for your mistake. Rather than just saying "Oh I did not realize that" (Not even an apology, because one isn't needed, just a confession that you made a mistake), seem to have turned it into a "Why did you post it? You can't have expected not to get flamed."

[quote=biantwmh]lets say cod is so popular cuz cod1 2 4 was so awesome(and frag movies on pc ofc) and waw is actually quiet good and mw2 is good for console players and for kids(major part of the gaming community) and bo's zombies
but as a pc gamer i say cod has been dead since mw2
thanks to who? activision[/quote]

COD is dead? yes the highest selling FPS game is dead. you're an idiot.

I wouldn't say i hate it, but I dont get what everyone sees in those games.. theyre all the EXACT SAME GAME. Modern warfare, call of duty, black ops, etc maybe a few graphical tweaks here and there. but its the exact same game play, and it isnt even fun or interesting.

@derakappy: Good job not realizing that this was a copy+paste and not my words.

I don't know what it is with Basil, I mean, LOOK at the [b]bolded[/b] text at the very beginning of the topic. It's like you guys skip reading things and go straight to trying to flame.

[quote=iFaeZwuNi]The rage used to be halo vs cod [/quote]

Yea, now it's CoD vs MW3.
Don't worry, next year it will turn to Whatever CoD has in store vs Halo 4.

@Akatsuki0826: I don't know for sure if a game did have theater mode first but that wasn't my point, my point was that Bungie didn't take any action to make it theirs and didn't do anything about CoD utilizing it, so obviously it doesn't matter. And also the vehicles are in a spot reachable by both teams, just like killstreaks are equally acquirable by every individual on each team, right? Right. And I've been in more games where people are able to stay in the original banshee or scorpion the entire game because they also use teamwork to protect it. In my opinion at least, it's much easier to block someone from getting a high killstreak than it is to take down a scorpion in most instances, especially since people die so quickly in CoD. And referring to your last point, what other ideas did they steal from which other companies? It's an FPS, there's only so much you can work with without things getting similar...

The rage used to be halo vs cod

[quote=shikachibi]I have MW2, the only CoD game I own, and I enjoy playing it and I played MW3 the other night with my brother. I have to agree with some people, the fanbase (or a huge majority off it) is rather annoying, but I don't hate them or the game.

I also play Halo and have been since CE, but unlike @Akatsuki0826 I feel these games cannot be compared, they're both so different from each other. And Bungie didn't patent "Theater mode" and I'm sure they weren't the first game company to implement it, but bottom line Black Ops has it and Bungie didn't do anything about it so...get over it. Also Akatsuki0826, in Halo there are other things that can be worse than the killstreaks in CoD. For example: The banshee. I've been in games where whoever gets the banshee has already won the game. Sitting in a banshee and bombing/gunning down everything so easily for the [i]entire[/i] game seems pretty overpowered to me, much more than killstreaks. And this is coming from an avid Halo fan.[/quote]

But the vehicles are either in a place where both teams have an equal chance to get them or both sides start out with one. Also, there are many ways to take out enemy vehicles. Spartan Laser, Rockets (they can home on aerial vehicles in Reach), Armor Lock when they swoop down for splattering, Sniper Rifle, Plasma Launcher, and hell, just get your team to open DMR fire on it. If a majority of your 8 man team starts DMRing the Banshee, it's as good as dead. As for the tank, team work. Have a distraction and let someone board it. Tanks are slow, their cannons take a while to turn around and up close, they can't even hit you.

And please, tell me, what game before Halo 3 had a theater mode? It just goes to show how unoriginal CoD is. They have to steal ideas from other companies. Sure Bungie didn't do anything, but that doesn't make it any less pathetic.

i perfer 3rd person games instead of not being able to see youre person

I somewhat agree to the hating it just to hate it part, but I personally find all first person shooters boring. And all the same.

Only reason why I hate the darn game is because most of my friends become complete no-lives whenever a new one comes out. It's ALL they can talk about. It gets rather annoying pretty fast. I hate how it changes my friends.

@Effinjoog: I definitely agree, while those dominating factors are still existent in both games I'm still a big fan of the Halo series and I still like playing MW2 with my friends. But you're right, the fact that they're listening to the fans means that they're actually trying to make a product that pleases the people buying it. And while I can understand some of the reasons people might not like CoD, the writer of the article is right, they don't need to go around telling people they're dumb/wrong for liking it.

[quote=shikachibi]@Effinjoog: That's my point, the banshee and the scorpion (which is another great example), especially in Reach, basically give one team, and specifically that one player, complete map control. And while something like the Chopper Gunner or AC-130 in CoD give total map control, it only lasts for a short time. As long as the player in Halo keeps his vehicle from blowing up, it's his/hers until the end of the game.[/quote]

Bungie IS getting better though. I like those small exposed points in the scorpion and banshee they have now where you can see the players body parts and destroy the vehicle instantly with a sniper. I do feel like CoD has been getting better with making their games atleast somewhat fair now too. The nuke use to dominate multiplayer since you could get it so easily. Now you can still get one but it doesnt end the game. They listened to those players that missed the nuke in black ops without making it overpowered which is something I like.

Its just another crappy FPPS. My fiends play it and tell them to get a life. That game is soo over-rated...

Well, I wouldn't say I passionately hate CoD with a fury, but it's a mediocre series and not particularly original, especially the later games

not that that's relevant
I just don't like the fanbase

@Effinjoog: That's my point, the banshee and the scorpion (which is another great example), especially in Reach, basically give one team, and specifically that one player, complete map control. And while something like the Chopper Gunner or AC-130 in CoD give total map control, it only lasts for a short time. As long as the player in Halo keeps his vehicle from blowing up, it's his/hers until the end of the game.

[quote=shikachibi]I have MW2, the only CoD game I own, and I enjoy playing it and I played MW3 the other night with my brother. I have to agree with some people, the fanbase (or a huge majority off it) is rather annoying, but I don't hate them or the game.

I also play Halo and have been since CE, but unlike @Akatsuki0826 I feel these games cannot be compared, they're both so different from each other. And Bungie didn't patent "Theater mode" and I'm sure they weren't the first game company to implement it, but bottom line Black Ops has it and Bungie didn't do anything about it so...get over it. Also Akatsuki0826, in Halo there are other things that can be worse than the killstreaks in CoD. For example: The banshee. I've been in games where whoever gets the banshee has already won the game. Sitting in a banshee and bombing/gunning down everything so easily for the [i]entire[/i] game seems pretty overpowered to me, much more than killstreaks. And this is coming from an avid Halo fan.[/quote]

The banshee and tanks were completely dominant in halo multiplayer. I do admit that it did get easier to kill people in these for the latest games but I could still get into a tank right now in reach and kill off 10+ people before they get me.

I have MW2, the only CoD game I own, and I enjoy playing it and I played MW3 the other night with my brother. I have to agree with some people, the fanbase (or a huge majority off it) is rather annoying, but I don't hate them or the game.

I also play Halo and have been since CE, but unlike @Akatsuki0826 I feel these games cannot be compared, they're both so different from each other. And Bungie didn't patent "Theater mode" and I'm sure they weren't the first game company to implement it, but bottom line Black Ops has it and Bungie didn't do anything about it so...get over it. Also Akatsuki0826, in Halo there are other things that can be worse than the killstreaks in CoD. For example: The banshee. I've been in games where whoever gets the banshee has already won the game. Sitting in a banshee and bombing/gunning down everything so easily for the [i]entire[/i] game seems pretty overpowered to me, much more than killstreaks. And this is coming from an avid Halo fan.

The game has not changed at all in the past 3-4 games aside from GUN LVLS OMGAHD,new maps,and that's just about it. The gameplay stays pretty much the same,so the ones that had the one before MW3 would basically know just how MW3 playstyle is. It's trash,and I wouldn't bash on it so bad if it was only 30-40 bucks.

Every FPS is the same,regardless of if you say it isn't.

Im a big fan of call of duty myself. Wouldn't hesitate to admit that.
I really don't mind the people who hate CoD. Its the ones that have to tell everyone that they are dumb for spending money on the game. I don't really need others to tell me how to spend my own money. If I enjoy the game, than there is no issue.

I didn't bother to real the whole thing, but I have to say that its an opinion of another. They may like it or may not, its [i]their[/i] opinion. We all like different things here, some people don't like the same thing as you may do.

i consider people who play COD because it looks "fun" bandwagoners... They only play because its mainstream. Whatever happened to classic nintendo games and board games? I feel like i am a 14 year old living back in the 90s :o

Hating is a natural thing. If we are restricted to hate something, such as COD, there is something wrong there -_-

All the people that say they arn't going to get it, are, in reality, going to be of the first ones who got it.

I'll just be glad when "Generic Military Shooter Season 2011" is done.

This thread is hilarious
Why wouldn't you release the same product every year with a new skin when it brings in the greatest profit of its kind of game?
Your crying about the graphics? MW3 sold more copies in 24 hours than BF3 did in a week; i see how the graphics helped BF3.
All your comments are only opinions and most of them are wrong.
Please come back to me when COD isn't the number 1 selling FPS every year, then you might have an argument.

The person who wrote that article gives the impression of being a COD fanboy. He/she doesn't take into consideration that people have legitimate reasons to hate CoD.

Whoever wrote that article is retarded.

"Some people hate Call of Duty because they are following a band wagon, therefore [b]all people must hate Call of Duty this way[/b].
Bad logic.

I'm not saying I hate it, but there has been little progression in the overall game since it begun. I've only played from WaW, MW2 and Black Ops, but I notice there is very little progression through the game's life in terms of multiplayer. It seems to remain a constant trend and the companies involved in the development of these games seem to stick to that formula.

I'm not sure if there is any way to progress the feeling of Call of Duty while keeping the 'Call of Duty' experience a majority of us enjoy, but I'm sure if they put their heads together with the community that they would make something extraordinary.

I don't see what the hype is.. I bought COD MW3 Hardend edition and BF3 Limited edition and locked them both in a case.. everytime my friends comes over they just stare and ask why i never opened them. They don't know I'm going to have a bonfire with the entire COD and BF collection. I hope they make good firewood.

In my opinion, COD died from Modern Warfare 2, with all the additions of overpowered killstreaks and such that discouraged teamwork and encouraged sitting in a corner.

[quote=Garchomp]Then what is the "lack of skill" when it comes to face to face? Who gets the first shot? Well that's reaction.

Getting kills from behind. Isn't that just strategic placement of your player?

Honestly arguments like these are very easy to counter, yours and mine. I'm sure you and I could easily go back and forth, but the "skill requirement" or "lack of skill" will never be a definite fact. It's all based upon observation and analysis.[/quote]

In Halo, because you need multiple shots to kill an enemy, the person with the most amount of skill will prevail. It is easier to strafe, to jump and dodge bullets while firing on your enemy in that game than it is in Call of Duty, where you are rooted to the ground.

I would believe it is strategic placement if people actually played strategically. But instead, they all go lone wolf and run around the map, hoping to catch someone with their backs turned so they can call in their kill streaks for even more free kills.

We can continue this if you wish, but I feel we are getting off topic. You haven't said anything in response to how I said that hating something is not stupid at all and is the same thing as having an opinion.

Call of Duty is a pretty good game. Notice I referred to it singularly. Because it's the same bloody game over and over again. It is fun, but there is no innovation. They can pump out a new game every few months, get the same score, and get people to buy it. It is pretty fun, I'll give you that, but the games never change. I mean, look at the graphics in MW3. Cutting edge? Nah, the same as MW2.

To get rid of the hate, they need to just cut all the prices of COD games. Each "new" game gives you 7 hours of story, a couple new maps, and that's it. It gets hate because it's simply not worth $60. This is the one case DLC would be better. $60 for the main game, $25 or so for the extra content? Seems reasonable. Repackaging the same game for full price? Not so much.

Modern Warfare was pretty original when it came out, to some degree. Now, Activision is getting too lazy and greedy to do anything. That's why people hate on it.

[quote=Akatsuki0826]Of course you should maintain the same game feel, but you should still change enough aspects to make it seem like a new game. Otherwise why pay $60 for the same game?
I don't dislike that genre, I play Halo. I just dislike that game.

They should have at least given some credit to Bungie, especially when it was such an obvious rip-off like that. They didn't even bother to change the name of the mode and it is almost identical with the camera controls.

There is no skill because of how easy it is to kill someone. It really comes down to who is looking the other way. That's how players get the majority of their kills, the person was looking the other way. During the rare occasion that two players actually to have to fight, it's the one with the better gun. No skill involved whatsoever. Once you've killed enough people with their backs turned on you, you can now spawn with the best weapons in the game and kill any player lower leveled than you. So much skill right?[/quote]Then what is the "lack of skill" when it comes to face to face? Who gets the first shot? Well that's reaction.

Getting kills from behind. Isn't that just strategic placement of your player?

Honestly arguments like these are very easy to counter, yours and mine. I'm sure you and I could easily go back and forth, but the "skill requirement" or "lack of skill" will never be a definite fact. It's all based upon observation and analysis.

[quote=Garchomp]I wasn't trying to flame, just [i]stating my opinion yo.[/i]

@Akatsuki0826 I know I'm going to sound like a gigantic fanboy (though I'm not in all honesty) but here I go:

They do change the multiplayer [i]slightly[/i] with every new game, but it seems very [i]similar[/i] because that's the Call of Duty style. So you just dislike the arcade/fast action shooter style?

And it's like you're implying that they were supposed to make up theater mode. If that's the case then why don't you bash Uncharted 2? That's the thing about "sides", they use such different forms of words. Stealing rather than innovating. Copying rather than implicating.

And if it takes no skill then there would obviously be no skill gap between players, and everyone would be on the same field.[/quote]

Of course you should maintain the same game feel, but you should still change enough aspects to make it seem like a new game. Otherwise why pay $60 for the same game?
I don't dislike that genre, I play Halo. I just dislike that game.

They should have at least given some credit to Bungie, especially when it was such an obvious rip-off like that. They didn't even bother to change the name of the mode and it is almost identical with the camera controls.

There is no skill because of how easy it is to kill someone. It really comes down to who is looking the other way. That's how players get the majority of their kills, the person was looking the other way. During the rare occasion that two players actually to have to fight, it's the one with the better gun. No skill involved whatsoever. Once you've killed enough people with their backs turned on you, you can now spawn with the best weapons in the game and kill any player lower leveled than you. So much skill right?

I know, It annoys me that some guy I know always goes around and smashing my brain with comments about how much he hates cod and why.

[quote=HerOrqy]I will admit I didn't read the article, I read the thread title and went to conclusions.

[url=http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lu47bxM7qq1r2k6s4o1_400.gif]&imnottrollingyouflammer[/url][/quote]I wasn't trying to flame, just [i]stating my opinion yo.[/i]

@Akatsuki0826 I know I'm going to sound like a gigantic fanboy (though I'm not in all honesty) but here I go:

They do change the multiplayer [i]slightly[/i] with every new game, but it seems very [i]similar[/i] because that's the Call of Duty style. So you just dislike the arcade/fast action shooter style?

And it's like you're implying that they were supposed to make up theater mode. If that's the case then why don't you bash Uncharted 2? That's the thing about "sides", they use such different forms of words. Stealing rather than innovating. Copying rather than implicating.

And if it takes no skill then there would obviously be no skill gap between players, and everyone would be on the same field. If you're going to argue muscle memory, then wouldn't playing piano not be a skill either? (I feel like I can use this argument because I've been playing for 8 years now)

I hate it because it's a terrible game. They don't change their multiplayer at all, it takes NO skill, they steal ideas from other games (theater from Halo), and it has no creativity at all. This is like saying why people hate a band or a sport team. It is not stupid to hate something, that is an opinion and we have the right to have an opinion. As long as we don't say it's bad, then this is perfectly fine. Calling it bad would be stating a fact, but there are no facts when it comes to preference. And I don't call it bad, I just hate it for my own reasons.

There is a line between hating it and simply not liking it or disrespecting some of it's community. I don't HATE the game but I don't like it either mind you I've played the game before I own it in fact and over time you realize some things about the game as well as the community.

for example

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5bI0rc_HtY

and several other videos in the series if you read through the comments you'll see what I mean not to mention the online community is terrible as well. Although I'm not saying the community should define a game, the story mode isn't that great in my opinion it seems repeative if you compare them to the previous games. The only difference mostly overall is a few gun upgrades, graphic enhances, maps, classes and of course a continuation of the story. I don't mind that FPS games are popular now or main stream I find some to be pleasurable and fun but after a while CoD gets old sort of like that old PS1 you have sitting around sure it's fun to pull it out time to time dust it off and remember the good times but when you replay it over and over again you become sick of it sorta like when you eat the same food everyday or once or twice a week it starts to seem boring and old...

I like all types of games I do so I change things up rather often but it just isn't my cup of tea anymore I've lost respect for the community over time and the game just doesn't feel that great to me anymore as far as game play goes so I simply CHOSE to dislike it, not hate it but it doesn't mean I go around to [b]every single[/b] thread I see bashing the game.

[quote=HerOrqy]no, because you first of all have a big wall of text and second of all alot of basilers don't read everything.[/quote]Which is why I provided a link--for those who don't like to read big walls of text (even though you're going to read the article).

If you don't read the article, then what are you going to base your "argument" towards the article on?

EDIT: I can't tell if you're just plain ignorant or trolling.

[quote=HerOrqy]you should of chosen another title.[/quote]Wut.

Before the edit, all I did was copy+pasted the content (along with the link and edited out swear words because of the filter) to share it with Basil. With that said, none of the material was mine, and so I fell that it was appropriate to not claim the title of the thread either.

Plus, isn't the title of the thread supposed to correspond with the content? And with the content being the article, shouldn't the title of the thread be the title of the article?

[quote=HerOrqy]wasnt preaching, more like ranting=dislike.[/quote]And what about my "ignorant thread title"?

I should have put that "Oh and..." as a separate comment. Now I ponder what your reply would've been if I didn't have it, because you only replied to that part.

@vaelietta This isn't mine.

What you fail to realize is people don't hate the "game" itself
They hate those obnoxious pretentious wankers that go all noisy over every "new" FPS as if they where the 8th wonder
when in reality they all are nothing but the same crap, just with another skin

Nothing wrong with hating. I hate the lines at the DMV, but that doesn't make me stupid. You even said yourself that "Everybody has different tastes in gaming". Why should hating it be looked at differently than liking it? :l

[quote=HerOrqy]umm, ignorant? Your thread title is ignorant too, "why it's stupid to hate on..."
So it's stupid to hate on something you dont like? Wait wait, I thought we had freedom to like/dislike things ?[/quote]The thread title was the title of the article...
I was just sharing...

Oh and disliking something to yourself, and preaching your hatred are two different things ma'am.

The same reason why people hate Rebecka Black and Justin Bieber's "music"
It is lame, tastes like cancer and spreads like AIDS among 13-year-old-hardcore-thug-gamers

[quote=HerOrqy]Pretty much yea[/quote]I'm sorry, but that's pretty ignorant and narrow-minded, but carry on if you will.

[quote=HerOrqy]Because, the game has no meaning.
It's so stupid, and all the "cool" kids play that crap, i dont see the entertainment in it.
I prefer the old times when rpg games where actually better now its all about this crusty shooting games.[/quote]So you [i]hate[/i] it because it doesn't fit your personal preference?

I feel like theres very little guns to use, most people are using G363's or w/e u call them and UMP's and Scar-Ls
I play spec ops now