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I have a 86k range buffed w/o dumping cash at the game excessively. Only things I have done with nx was cube a kaivesurnet which later was dumped so my range is basically from just events and cheap deals. I do 240k per gigas on normal mobs and 140k on RA

[quote=VioletsRBlue]Kaiser gets buffed in Blaze wizard / night walker patch !
Personally waiting for it~[/quote]

No they're not

[quote=wasp3]@antycleax: Very true, I managed to hit 260k buffed and can hit ~1- 1.4 crits with gigas wave on bosses, vs. pallies ,would hit 2-4x that damage and even more on bosses that halve your damage in half like gollux or hilla or any or the ra bosses[/quote]

Yea and if you want to do bosses like Magnus and CRA. It's EXTREMELY hard using Wing beat, Stone dragon, Tempest blades, Gigas wave all at the same time.
Where as pally's and drks and heroes just have 1 real attack (pally's have to recharge / drk's have to wait for cd which is still better than kaiser's). Anyways, that's my advice. I'm personally switching to Paladin as soon as my item locks expire.

@antycleax: Very true, I managed to hit 260k buffed and can hit ~1- 1.4 crits with gigas wave on bosses, vs. pallies ,would hit 2-4x that damage and even more on bosses that halve your damage in half like gollux or hilla or any or the ra bosses

[quote=wasp3]Im at 260k buffed and i hit significantly lower than other warriors on normal mobs. On bosses, even though i manage -1m a line on gigas, other warriors such as pallies, drks and heros can hit much higher per line, especially a pally, as they can hit -2m a line with the same funding with me with blast. We are very under powered, especially when it comes to mobbing compared to other warriors. correct me if im wrong. We can`t compete with other warriors with the same amount of funding[/quote]

@Ruew @moelesterson @VioletsRBlue @greenarrowspark
My kaiser has 2mill+ range, 40% attack, 312% Boss, 310% str, 877 att, 85% PDR. This is how much I hit:
I hit only 6x11= 66m+ per line on regular mobs.
8x11=88m+ per line on CRA bosses
16x11=176m+ per line on dojo

Keep in mind this is with ONLY gigas wave. Tempest blade+ wing beat +Stone dragon more than doubles the damage output but they last only for short periods of time and hence kaisers do 1/2 the damage of Drk/Paladins with my gear. I have a friend with similar equips as mine who nearly caps on his pally. I hope this helps, my opinion is don't waste your time with Kaisers. They will burn your pocket and you will never be hitting 20mil/ per line on bosses unless every equip you have is 27%+, LITERALLY. Oh and the revamp, 220% --> 330% will put us on par with heroes, but kaisers will still be weaker than Paladins and Drks. I did the math.

I want better mobbing skills.

Kaiser gets buffed in Blaze wizard / night walker patch !
Personally waiting for it~

@moelesterson its not the range comparison, but instead the damage comparison. Since RED, ALL of the explorer warriors are stronger than kaiser now, and take less to get there. My 160 Kaiser has the growing tempest kaiser set on and he does ~40k non crit on Normal Root Abyss bosses... >_>

I've never understood why people compare ranges on different classes, there's more to take into account.
Kaiser's range is going to be naturally higher, just because you have 2m range doesn't mean it's equal funding to a pally with 2m range.
You also need to take into account passive skills and buffs also think of attack speed I believe gigas has less delay than blast? Every class has its pros and con's if you like a class work on its weaknesses all classes can be great... Pretty much it's the players that suck

@elpanaj8: hits per second is useless when the other guy can hit 3x your damage with the same range. Pallies can hit 2-3m crit a line with blast with the same funding as me. thaats 20-30m per attack since blast hits 10 times? My gigas can only hit 1m crits per line on low pdr bosses x 11 which is 11m/attack, ANd pallies also out damage me on bosses that cut your damage in half. Kaiser is only op if your uber funded like @ifredie. Tl;DR kaisers could use a overhaul

@greenarrowspark: oh i see ._o ok that not fair

[quote=elpanaj8]but I think the hit per second make up for that issue or am I wrong?[/quote]

not really, because the DPS on DPS charts are with his flame DoT, and his tornadoes, as well as his summon. VERY specific, and not effective on moving bosses. The hits per second don't really make up for it because Paladins can do more DPS than us with less funds. Ex. Both characters have 2m range, nothing else.
Paladin's Blast: 318% 7 times, 6,360,000 each line, and 44,520,000 total
Kaiser's Gigas Wave: 220% 9 times, 4,400,000 each line, and 39,600,000 total.
Kaiser is not only lacking in this (reasonable) DPS, but Paladin can hit a 2m range MUCH easier than Kaiser...

[quote=Ruew]not exactly. When RED occurred, a bunch of people left their kaisers for an adventurer warrior. Although, when kaisers get buffed again, i expect some to return. That being said, yes kaisers are still strong. Their hits per second make up for their relatively low #'s[/quote]

Shut up lmfao

[quote=wasp3]Im at 260k buffed and i hit significantly lower than other warriors on normal mobs. On bosses, even though i manage -1m a line on gigas, other warriors such as pallies, drks and heros can hit much higher per line, especially a pally, as they can hit -2m a line with the same funding with me with blast. We are very under powered, especially when it comes to mobbing compared to other warriors. correct me if im wrong. We can`t compete with other warriors with the same amount of funding[/quote]

but I think the hit per second make up for that issue or am I wrong?

Im at 260k buffed and i hit significantly lower than other warriors on normal mobs. On bosses, even though i manage -1m a line on gigas, other warriors such as pallies, drks and heros can hit much higher per line, especially a pally, as they can hit -2m a line with the same funding with me with blast. We are very under powered, especially when it comes to mobbing compared to other warriors. correct me if im wrong. We can`t compete with other warriors with the same amount of funding

[quote=Ruew]not exactly. When RED occurred, a bunch of people left their kaisers for an adventurer warrior. Although, when kaisers get buffed again, i expect some to return. That being said, yes kaisers are still strong. Their hits per second make up for their relatively low #'s[/quote]

I have a lv 160 Kaiser, and with the Growing Tempest Kaiser set (any other set is too expensive). ~31k range buffed, and on Normal RA bosses, i hit 40k non crit and 65k crit. little help?

[quote=Kazzooey]They are still good. Damage whores still stick with the class[/quote]

not exactly. When RED occurred, a bunch of people left their kaisers for an adventurer warrior. Although, when kaisers get buffed again, i expect some to return. That being said, yes kaisers are still strong. Their hits per second make up for their relatively low #'s

They are still good. Damage whores still stick with the class

they raised the damage cap

100k is good wachu talkin bout gurl