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Need some help with Magnus

I have the range to kill him, but I can't manage to kill him no matter how hard I try lol I almost always get him down to 25%hp before the 15 min mark and then I usually just end up wasting all of my time dying/rebuffing or dodging his annoying rocks which seem to enjoy clustering right around his blue zone.

I only do about 1.5mil per line on him when I'm in the blue zone so it drops to 150k outside of the zone, and this is why I have so much trouble with the last 25%. If I get inside the blue zone it feels like 90% of the time he either spawns poison inside it or does the spinning attack, which dark sight can't dodge for some reason even though its a physical attack, and I can't attack because I have to get out of there instead.

I also have trouble with buffing up and dodging his meteors at the same time. SP is one of the slowest buffs in the game and if a meteor spawns above me when I cast it I'm as good as dead. Other than that the only buffs I use are MW, claw booster and dark harmony, sometimes I use shadow stars if I find a big enough opening in the meteors.

It'd be great if someone could give me some tips on how to make the run, or the last 25% of his health, a lot easier. BTW I have 153k range clean, 193kbuffed if that matters

December 14, 2014

11 Comments • Newest first

iEvanMaster

[quote=ox0Shad0w0xo]Wait, you can dark sight through the meteors and the gas? I've been going about it all wrong then lol. I still kill him fine (normal anyway), but he gets me several times that could have been avoided knowing that. Of course there are the times with just rotten luck, like knocking me into the meteors, or trapping me in a situation where I either fj into a meteor, get hit by his double blast, or get hit by the green lasers that are right in the safe spot under him.[/quote]

Yep. It avoids a lot of map based objects,most notable being Magnus meteors Pierre hats and Vellum falling rocks, as well as the damage from Gollux's 99% Eye Bomb attack.

[quote=Lecarde]I have been using DS a lot along with showdown so I can dodge his dash and meteors, I guess I just need better control overall though. I never really considered that I could fight him without MW/dark harmony though. Does getting pet buff and/or potion pot help all that much at magnus?[/quote]

Yes, auto pet buffs help a ton if your dps isn't high enough to just destroy Magnus.

For potion pot... not reaaally, but if your good with timing if you use it right as you're hit by a attack or meteor and kill you,will you still lose the death count but you won't actually "die".

You'll live with 10% of your hp if you use it outside the blue zone or full hp if you use it inside the zone.

Again it's very situational and doesn't help all of the time, especially when with just 10% HP Magnus will simply finish you off in another hit easily.

Pet buffs I definitely recommend, those precious few seconds at the 25% HP part of the battle when you respawn saves a lot of lives when you're not stuck in the corner trying to rebuff and you insta-die because of a long buff animation.

Just keep praticing! in Magnus you need not only good control, but also luck as well if you have the dps required to kill him but barely.

It took me a few months of praticing, and Pre-Unleashed my Kaiser had enough dps to kill Normal Magnus but couldn't do it because the last 25% HP was hell and the damage cap was still at 1M at the time.

Eventually I managed it with my luminous friend binding him. That's another thing, classes with bind have a major advantage over those who don't in this boss. It just gives you so much more time to attack without having to worry about him screwing you over by knocking you back.

Reply December 14, 2014
Lecarde

[quote=iEvanMaster]Use only your most important buffs when you respawn. Booster and Shadow Partner.

MW/Dark Harmony and Shadow Stars can wait until you have a opportunity to buff when magnus does his double blast move, or when he rushes and you're forced to move away from him.

You're a thief that has access to Dark Sight. Abuse the hell out of it. It helps you avoid the gas and meteors.

SHOWDOWN HIM. (If you don't do that already.) It's so useful, negates the damage/kb from his rush move.

The spinning attack unfortunately, has very few ways around it at 25%, where its range is greater than the blue zone. I advise using dark sight immediately if you see the animation, if you're in a situation where he can do the spin move and knock you into a meteor and kill you.

If you have any other questions feel free to ask me.[/quote]

I have been using DS a lot along with showdown so I can dodge his dash and meteors, I guess I just need better control overall though. I never really considered that I could fight him without MW/dark harmony though. Does getting pet buff and/or potion pot help all that much at magnus?

Reply December 14, 2014
johnkimbaboh

Jump allows you to dodge his slow.

Reply December 14, 2014
Axnslicer

The normal response to Magnus's blue KB spin is to rush into it, safely cancelling the KB. NLs don't have this option. The easy solution is, of course, to just fund yourself enough that you can kill him faster than he kills you. I'm guessing that's a work in progress for you.

So, alternatively, hit and run with Dark Sight. Wait until he does a slow move with lots of build up time, get in a few hits, then go back into DS and out of his range. DS allows you to play this game basically forever, since meteors and gas can't affect you while you're in it.

This isn't an issue for Hard Magnus either, since you'll have a binder on your team, which means Magnus will be frozen while you deal damage.

Reply December 14, 2014 - edited
Undexme

pet buff SP and booster , dont use any other buffs mw and harmony is no big deal
use DS alot although you dont hit him that time its worth the time u save by not dying
keep him on middle so u dont have gas problems on the right or left
use MPE and if u have then SI too as you go in when the blue zone range is big so u can snipe him from afar and take good dmg with it
avoid getting pushed by him so when you see he lifts his sword for that circle attack just DS and fj over or something

try to watch some NL magnus vids too , it helps
other than that its just control and dps , goodluck bro !

Reply December 14, 2014 - edited
ox0Shad0w0xo

[quote=iEvanMaster]Use only your most important buffs when you respawn. Booster and Shadow Partner.

MW/Dark Harmony and Shadow Stars can wait until you have a opportunity to buff when magnus does his double blast move, or when he rushes and you're forced to move away from him.

You're a thief that has access to Dark Sight. Abuse the hell out of it. It helps you avoid the gas and meteors.

SHOWDOWN HIM. (If you don't do that already.) It's so useful, negates the damage/kb from his rush move.

The spinning attack unfortunately, has very few ways around it at 25%, where its range is greater than the blue zone. I advise using dark sight immediately if you see the animation, if you're in a situation where he can do the spin move and knock you into a meteor and kill you.

If you have any other questions feel free to ask me.[/quote]

Wait, you can dark sight through the meteors and the gas? I've been going about it all wrong then lol. I still kill him fine (normal anyway), but he gets me several times that could have been avoided knowing that. Of course there are the times with just rotten luck, like knocking me into the meteors, or trapping me in a situation where I either fj into a meteor, get hit by his double blast, or get hit by the green lasers that are right in the safe spot under him.

Reply December 14, 2014 - edited
anthony1745

[quote=iEvanMaster]Use only your most important buffs when you respawn. Booster and Shadow Partner.

MW/Dark Harmony and Shadow Stars can wait until you have a opportunity to buff when magnus does his double blast move, or when he rushes and you're forced to move away from him.

You're a thief that has access to Dark Sight. Abuse the hell out of it. It helps you avoid the gas and meteors.

SHOWDOWN HIM. (If you don't do that already.) It's so useful, negates the damage/kb from his rush move.

The spinning attack unfortunately, has very few ways around it at 25%, where its range is greater than the blue zone. I advise using dark sight immediately if you see the animation, if you're in a situation where he can do the spin move and knock you into a meteor and kill you.

If you have any other questions feel free to ask me.[/quote]

This guy is a magnus murderer. Listen to this guys advice since he is super good at bossing. Hi Ant

Reply December 14, 2014 - edited
iEvanMaster

Use only your most important buffs when you respawn. Booster and Shadow Partner.

MW/Dark Harmony and Shadow Stars can wait until you have a opportunity to buff when magnus does his double blast move, or when he rushes and you're forced to move away from him.

You're a thief that has access to Dark Sight. Abuse the hell out of it. It helps you avoid the gas and meteors.

SHOWDOWN HIM. (If you don't do that already.) It's so useful, negates the damage/kb from his rush move.

The spinning attack unfortunately, has very few ways around it at 25%, where its range is greater than the blue zone. I advise using dark sight immediately if you see the animation, if you're in a situation where he can do the spin move and knock you into a meteor and kill you.

If you have any other questions feel free to ask me.

Reply December 14, 2014 - edited
LightZero

^ this. I split my buffs into ones i need and don't need, for ex: maybe get rid of haste from macros and if you use macros no more than 2 buffs per macro.

Reply December 14, 2014 - edited
powerguy121

Don't use macros to buff up. Soon as you respawn, buff shadow partner then buff up booster etc when you're safe.

Reply December 14, 2014 - edited
Iamshorttt

petbuff

Reply December 14, 2014 - edited