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can't wait til i see you failing mw30.

[quote=RiceEater523]70% chance of success = 3/10 chance your book will fail.
Every time your book is used, there is a 30% chance of failure. Since the use of your books are individual events happening separately and not all at the same time, the probability for each book passing is theoretically the same. Therefore you failing 100 books of TT20 and never passing a single one is possible, because they all separately have a 30% chance of failure.

Yea I'm pretty sure they know how probabilities work.[/quote]

I know man I know -.-" but just saying for all 4 times to fail in row , its 30% separately , what did you think ? that I'm a retard ? but 70% can't keep failing that much it's possible but it's REALLY messed up ....

@EggShellDrag:
Yes

each time you do it it is independent.
also since you stop once you suceed you will see the fails more

[quote=queeuq]don't even get me started on how much stuff i fail on the daily[/quote]

I hope nexon compensates your loss XD

@mikorosky: they don't give good scrolls -,-

[quote=xN3RDxK1Dx]u should quit 4th time in 1 day o.o wow[/quote]

nah dude , not in one day ... in a while -.- I had 3 tries pre bigbang ... and one now .... took me ages to get the mesos , thanks to nexon I can't hunt scrolls from mini bosses cause they are glitches atm !

u should quit 4th time in 1 day o.o wow

wow .... so many sad stories , I need more tissues ...

I failed 4/5 DS 20 when they were 180mil each

you fail hard. you could fail 10 90% scrolls in a row, but somewhere else in maple, someone could pass 10 90% scrolls. theres a chance of it failing you idiot

[quote=xbladerFTW]@MajdOwnZ: 90% potential scrolls fail 10% of the time. Math is fun isn't it?[/quote]

Nexon's math is VERY entertaining that I should get popcorn and watch people while they keep failing books until I choke myself to death from laughter

My friend failed boomerang step 9 TIMES. That's right, 9(40~60m each) . But I got both on my first

[quote=ryu626]Failed 2 TT30's 3rd one worked cost me 650m stop Crying.[/quote]

dude , I'm not crying , I'm just discussing the fact that scrolls and books don't work the way they should -.-"

[quote=maplestory0956] [/quote] ..... WOW for real ? I've been told by a friend that his friend failed TT 30 29 times LOL .... tell me if you ever hit 30 times ... that would be a new record

Failed 2 TT30's 3rd one worked cost me 650m stop Crying.

Books, scrolls, ect don't stack like everyone thinks they do. You can just get really unlucky. I blew up two elemental staves with 90% potential scrolls back to back.

Life sucks, then you die, brah.

[quote=ElephantInDaSky]SS or BS[/quote]

can you read hebrew ? I'd love to show you my marks LOL

i failed 11 glove attacks in a row

[quote=mikorosky]Probability depends on a specific moment.
After using a book, you can't say "Oh well, that was 1/4, the probability all 4 will fail is 0.3^4, so I'll be okay!", 'cause the probability is no longer 0.3^4, it's 0.3^3.

On a side note: school probability is bull. Doesn't teach you jack.[/quote]

I get your point but go get like 10 coins of same size , mark 3 , and try getting one of the three out of a sack randomly .... for four times -.- . COME ON ! I just can't be that unlucky !

I just passed my Bstep 20 and 30 on the first try yesterday

[quote=Chewchew]Do YOU know how probabilities work?
They don't stack, they don't get better for the next time. Is the same ALWAYS.
I failed 6 out of 7 60's Gun scrolls on a Reverse Blindness, and you don't see me crying do you ? Even if the magnitude of the meso I spent and the meso you spent is abismal the probabilities works the same for everyone.
Oh on a second thought... let's see:
36 PoT = 28mil
10 Dark Crystal = 30mil
7 Gun scrolls 60% = 14mil.
So yeah I wasted 72mil on this gun with an awful result.
And let's not get started with Battleship Cannon 30. The lack of this books makes them way too overpriced.[/quote]
Most people know that they don't stack, but to fail many in a row is still bad luck

got aca30 to work on my third try.

I failed dark fog 20 twice.

Come to me when you failed 4 gene30s back when it was like 600-800m. 800M back then is more like 4b today.

11 times failed shad shifter 30 and still cant manage it to work

good for you, try tt30 now

3 MW30's

I failed MW30 5 times, guess 6th times the charm for me

You shoulda bought them when they were 5m

[quote=Divalol]Oh i see
Not trying too like get off topic will you have too get Quad throw gonna be dropped from zakum too?[/quote]

It's gonna be from MMB =.= . pain in the ass . Quad throw 10 will be from zakum

[quote=Divalol]Hey you know whats really funny about that, TT will be turned into a 3rd job skill soon [/quote]

I know , but the mastery level is gonna be the Quad throw's

dude chillaxx, all my skills take 4-6 books each to pass

[quote=MajdOwnZ]yeah I know -.-" , It's not like TT 10 has a 100% success chance ....[/quote]

mjad bro i failed 2 bsteps 20 when they were 120M each, ik how i feel

[quote=goner666]cant tell if trolling or very stoooopid....[/quote]

yeah I know -.-" , It's not like TT 10 has a 100% success chance ....

[quote=Maplit0]WRONG! cause if they pass TT 30 in the next patch itll be like they passed QT 30 TOO, its not the first time that a class got revamped, i know that cause i experienced with my mage which was revamped in the past .... i had maxed FIRE DEMON then in the revamp when fire demon was moved to 3 job ... the new skill called POSION MIST WAS MAXED ....[/quote]

Im basing my knowledge on the db revamp when they got phantom blow and had to get it, and it replaced CoH-that nexon moved to 3rd job, okie?

[quote=Fyrus]Its funny that people are still using TT books now, cuz the revamp will make it a 3rd job skill, and you wont have QT30 if you had TT30.

And yeah ik that thief revamp is still far away, just letting u know [/quote]
WRONG! cause if they pass TT 30 in the next patch itll be like they passed QT 30 TOO, its not the first time that a class got revamped, i know that cause i experienced with my mage which was revamped in the past .... i had maxed FIRE DEMON then in the revamp when fire demon was moved to 3 job ... the new skill called POSION MIST WAS MAXED ....

[quote=omegasereon]Your pretty lucky hitting 4 30%'s. Now scroll an item.[/quote]

I am considering doing so , cause I scrolled my shoes with 3 30% long time ago and all of them worked , looks like my char is lucky with 30%s T_T

You're just unlucky. Get over it, it happens to everyone.

Call me a chicken, I never attempt scrolls that destroy my item by certain %. So far I haven't failed in any of the mastery books, only cuz I haven't tried a lot of them... but it hurts my BUTT whenever I see someone buying a book from ME and using it in front of ME and fail in front of ME.

Its funny that people are still using TT books now, cuz the revamp will make it a 3rd job skill, and you wont have QT30 if you had TT30.

And yeah ik that thief revamp is still far away, just letting u know

I've actually only ever failed one book, lol. Chain Lightning 30 failed me once. Every other book I have ever used has worked. (knocks on wood)

[quote=Chewchew]Do YOU know how probabilities work?
They don't stack, they don't get better for the next time. Is the same ALWAYS.
I failed 6 out of 7 60's Gun scrolls on a Reverse Blindness, and you don't see me crying do you ? Even if the magnitude of the meso I spent and the meso you spent is abismal the probabilities works the same for everyone.
Oh on a second thought... let's see:
36 PoT = 28mil
10 Dark Crystal = 30mil
7 Gun scrolls 60% = 14mil.
So yeah I wasted 72mil on this gun with an awful result.
And let's not get started with Battleship Cannon 30. The lack of this books makes them way too overpriced.[/quote]
I'm so tired of people using this argument... even thought the success rate is 70% and will always be 70%, the chance of him failing FOUR in a row is NOT 70%. It's lower.

Are you sure you know how probability works? What you're saying right now is like someone saying if you fail 90% ten times in a row then the next one has to work. It doesn't work like that. SMH

I succeeded mw 20 after the 3rd try and mw 30 in one try
Lucky me

I failed MW30 6 times in total before passing.

Lol guys calm down my friend has a video of himself failing 11 mw30's when it was 1b a peice.

Passed TT 20 first try and passed TT 30 first try earlier today

failed demon impact 30 3times so far

Your pretty lucky hitting 4 30%'s. Now scroll an item.

Threadstarter, are you sure you know how probabilities work ?