[quote=Infinities]As undergrads, premed kids just take a bunch of required intro courses in a various subjects (bio, genchem, orgo, calc, biochem, physics) and then are free to take whatever they like (GPA BOOSTERS WOOOOOOO'SSTUDIES) Engineers, at least at my school, have similar required intro courses, but then must complete their upper level engineering course requirements to get their degrees.
However, I personally think both are equally stressful. Engineers don't have to worry as much about their GPA as premeds, but they have a heavier workload; while premeds have to be on top of their grades at all times, but have a lighter workload.[/quote]
don't most pre-med students major in biology though?
[quote=xVolcomStone]Well in Canada medicine is a graduate program... And med school itself is apparently not that bad. It's getting there that's a pain in the butt. If you're a science major for your undergrad you're looking at quite a bit of work (probably a little less than eng, but it's still substantial).
Eng is tough cause it's a ridiculous number of hours a week (like 37-40), but they tend to have less homework than the science kids. It all depends on what you're good at... Personally I'm a biomed major (faculty of science) because I don't like math (hence why I didn't go eng). You're gonna do better in whichever program you enjoy more. That being said, the eng kids sometimes get crushed because the program isn't really geared as heavily toward graduate studies, more just passing, cause you can get a decent job with just an undergraduate degree.[/quote]
You're a biomed major while I'm a Biomed Engineering major *cues the Mexican music*
Edit: I'd say Engineering is harder. Medicine is just competitive but it isn't hard if you're good memorizing. I know two people who are in Biomedical Engineering (as well as myself) who plan to continue into medicine. I'll ask them which is harder if they get in.
If the med program(s) you're looking at doesn't require to have a B.Sc. (pretty sure most don't), you're probably better off majoring in psychology and taking whatever natural science courses you may need. Two of my friends in biochem just switched to psych because the science courses get ridiculously hard and time consuming. Something to keep in mind. Regardless of how smart you are, taking 5 classes and 4 labs a semester will drive you insane.
Engineering is definitely the hardest undergraduate program (at least my university) however, graduates end up making ~$70k annually right out of school.
I didn't really answer your question because I'm in comp sci , but this is what I've speculated from my friends and brother's friends.
It's definitely an apples to oranges comparison, like aznseal said. Even comparing the same program across different colleges/universities and at different time periods gets a bit hairy. The academic road to a medicine is longer though, whereas for engineering an bachelor's will often suffice.
It's like comparing apples and oranges. Engineering is more learning the processes behind problems. "Premed" (which isn't a major btw, many premeds are something like biology, microbiology, zoology, etc) is mostly straight memorizing. Some people are better at different stuff.
With that said, the road to medical school is harder than almost any graduate engineering program because it's much more about academics. It's a lot of extra curricular activities.
@infinities: Umm no. Premeds have to take the required courses but many take higher level science classes, which can be just as challenging (albeit in a different way) as the toughest engineering courses.
there is no pre-med major. most pre-meds are in some kind of life sciences major (e.g. neuroscience, biochemistry, biology, microbiology) but they are not limited to a certain set of majors as long as your finish certain classes required by med schools. at my school, the coursework and pacing of engineering is much more difficult than traditional "pre-med majors", as are the admissions for engineers
[quote=Infinities]As undergrads, premed kids just take a bunch of required intro courses in a various subjects (bio, genchem, orgo, calc, biochem, physics) and then are free to take whatever they like (GPA BOOSTERS WOOOOOOO'SSTUDIES) Engineers, at least at my school, have similar required intro courses, but then must complete their upper level engineering course requirements to get their degrees.
However, I personally think both are equally stressful. Engineers don't have to worry as much about their GPA as premeds, but they have a heavier workload; while premeds have to be on top of their grades at all times, but have a lighter workload.[/quote] women studies is pretty hard bro
Medicine requires an average of 8-12 years of school plus the MCAT in order to get into a medical college. Engineering is tough but if you find one you're good at, internships come to you really fast.
[quote=xVolcomStone]Well in Canada medicine is a graduate program... And med school itself is apparently not that bad. It's getting there that's a pain in the butt. If you're a science major for your undergrad you're looking at quite a bit of work (probably a little less than eng, but it's still substantial).
Eng is tough cause it's a ridiculous number of hours a week (like 37-40), but they tend to have less homework than the science kids. It all depends on what you're good at... Personally I'm a biomed major (faculty of science) because I don't like math (hence why I didn't go eng). You're gonna do better in whichever program you enjoy more. That being said, the eng kids sometimes get crushed because the program isn't really geared as heavily toward graduate studies, more just passing, cause you can get a decent job with just an undergraduate degree.[/quote]
Getting into med school is a pain, but staying in med school is a pain too. the hours are horrible and you don't have time for anything. you're either studying, or doing practicals at a hospital/clinic. source: i live with my sister and her life is school
Pre-med isn't a major either... Pre-med is just taking general chemistry, general bio, orgo, a&p, and physics. I also want to say you may need like calc I too. While having intentions to go to med school. By that logic, engineering is harder since you need more classes.
BUTTT, depending on your university, those pre-med classes can be the hardest classes on your campus. I know for fact at mine they are some of the hardest since everyone and their mother wants to go to med school here.
Well in Canada medicine is a graduate program... And med school itself is apparently not that bad. It's getting there that's a pain in the butt. If you're a science major for your undergrad you're looking at quite a bit of work (probably a little less than eng, but it's still substantial).
Eng is tough cause it's a ridiculous number of hours a week (like 37-40), but they tend to have less homework than the science kids. It all depends on what you're good at... Personally I'm a biomed major (faculty of science) because I don't like math (hence why I didn't go eng). You're gonna do better in whichever program you enjoy more. That being said, the eng kids sometimes get crushed because the program isn't really geared as heavily toward graduate studies, more just passing, cause you can get a decent job with just an undergraduate degree.
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[quote=Infinities]As undergrads, premed kids just take a bunch of required intro courses in a various subjects (bio, genchem, orgo, calc, biochem, physics) and then are free to take whatever they like (GPA BOOSTERS WOOOOOOO 'SSTUDIES)
Engineers, at least at my school, have similar required intro courses, but then must complete their upper level engineering course requirements to get their degrees.
However, I personally think both are equally stressful. Engineers don't have to worry as much about their GPA as premeds, but they have a heavier workload; while premeds have to be on top of their grades at all times, but have a lighter workload.[/quote]
don't most pre-med students major in biology though?
[quote=xVolcomStone]Well in Canada medicine is a graduate program... And med school itself is apparently not that bad. It's getting there that's a pain in the butt. If you're a science major for your undergrad you're looking at quite a bit of work (probably a little less than eng, but it's still substantial).
Eng is tough cause it's a ridiculous number of hours a week (like 37-40), but they tend to have less homework than the science kids. It all depends on what you're good at... Personally I'm a biomed major (faculty of science) because I don't like math (hence why I didn't go eng). You're gonna do better in whichever program you enjoy more. That being said, the eng kids sometimes get crushed because the program isn't really geared as heavily toward graduate studies, more just passing, cause you can get a decent job with just an undergraduate degree.[/quote]
You're a biomed major while I'm a Biomed Engineering major
*cues the Mexican music*
Edit: I'd say Engineering is harder. Medicine is just competitive but it isn't hard if you're good memorizing. I know two people who are in Biomedical Engineering (as well as myself) who plan to continue into medicine. I'll ask them which is harder if they get in.
If the med program(s) you're looking at doesn't require to have a B.Sc. (pretty sure most don't), you're probably better off majoring in psychology and taking whatever natural science courses you may need. Two of my friends in biochem just switched to psych because the science courses get ridiculously hard and time consuming. Something to keep in mind. Regardless of how smart you are, taking 5 classes and 4 labs a semester will drive you insane.
Engineering is definitely the hardest undergraduate program (at least my university) however, graduates end up making ~$70k annually right out of school.
I didn't really answer your question because I'm in comp sci , but this is what I've speculated from my friends and brother's friends.
It's definitely an apples to oranges comparison, like aznseal said. Even comparing the same program across different colleges/universities and at different time periods gets a bit hairy. The academic road to a medicine is longer though, whereas for engineering an bachelor's will often suffice.
It's like comparing apples and oranges. Engineering is more learning the processes behind problems. "Premed" (which isn't a major btw, many premeds are something like biology, microbiology, zoology, etc) is mostly straight memorizing. Some people are better at different stuff.
With that said, the road to medical school is harder than almost any graduate engineering program because it's much more about academics. It's a lot of extra curricular activities.
@infinities: Umm no. Premeds have to take the required courses but many take higher level science classes, which can be just as challenging (albeit in a different way) as the toughest engineering courses.
there is no pre-med major. most pre-meds are in some kind of life sciences major (e.g. neuroscience, biochemistry, biology, microbiology) but they are not limited to a certain set of majors as long as your finish certain classes required by med schools. at my school, the coursework and pacing of engineering is much more difficult than traditional "pre-med majors", as are the admissions for engineers
[quote=Infinities]As undergrads, premed kids just take a bunch of required intro courses in a various subjects (bio, genchem, orgo, calc, biochem, physics) and then are free to take whatever they like (GPA BOOSTERS WOOOOOOO 'SSTUDIES)
Engineers, at least at my school, have similar required intro courses, but then must complete their upper level engineering course requirements to get their degrees.
However, I personally think both are equally stressful. Engineers don't have to worry as much about their GPA as premeds, but they have a heavier workload; while premeds have to be on top of their grades at all times, but have a lighter workload.[/quote]
women studies is pretty hard bro
Medicine requires an average of 8-12 years of school plus the MCAT in order to get into a medical college. Engineering is tough but if you find one you're good at, internships come to you really fast.
[quote=xVolcomStone]Well in Canada medicine is a graduate program... And med school itself is apparently not that bad. It's getting there that's a pain in the butt. If you're a science major for your undergrad you're looking at quite a bit of work (probably a little less than eng, but it's still substantial).
Eng is tough cause it's a ridiculous number of hours a week (like 37-40), but they tend to have less homework than the science kids. It all depends on what you're good at... Personally I'm a biomed major (faculty of science) because I don't like math (hence why I didn't go eng). You're gonna do better in whichever program you enjoy more. That being said, the eng kids sometimes get crushed because the program isn't really geared as heavily toward graduate studies, more just passing, cause you can get a decent job with just an undergraduate degree.[/quote]
Getting into med school is a pain, but staying in med school is a pain too. the hours are horrible and you don't have time for anything. you're either studying, or doing practicals at a hospital/clinic.
source: i live with my sister and her life is school
Pre-med isn't a major either...
Pre-med is just taking general chemistry, general bio, orgo, a&p, and physics. I also want to say you may need like calc I too. While having intentions to go to med school.
By that logic, engineering is harder since you need more classes.
BUTTT, depending on your university, those pre-med classes can be the hardest classes on your campus.
I know for fact at mine they are some of the hardest since everyone and their mother wants to go to med school here.
My buddy, a eng major, got a 5% mark on his hydraulics final exam and this the same person who got 90s in high school.
IDK personally engineering isn't that hard.
Not sure how pre-med would be though.
[quote=Proverbs]I meant pre-med whoops.[/quote]
Do you suck at math or do you suck at anatomy?
[quote=RitoPls]Medicine isn't a major.[/quote]
I meant pre-med whoops.
Well in Canada medicine is a graduate program... And med school itself is apparently not that bad. It's getting there that's a pain in the butt. If you're a science major for your undergrad you're looking at quite a bit of work (probably a little less than eng, but it's still substantial).
Eng is tough cause it's a ridiculous number of hours a week (like 37-40), but they tend to have less homework than the science kids. It all depends on what you're good at... Personally I'm a biomed major (faculty of science) because I don't like math (hence why I didn't go eng). You're gonna do better in whichever program you enjoy more. That being said, the eng kids sometimes get crushed because the program isn't really geared as heavily toward graduate studies, more just passing, cause you can get a decent job with just an undergraduate degree.
Medicine isn't a major.