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If I get lower than A, and my parents know why, they just encourage me to put in more effort, there's no real punishment like grounding. Most I've ever got was maybe a lecture but that was it.

-puts on Asian accent- 'No int3rnetz till you get duh good rep0rt next time!'
Yeah, blackmailing parents.

[quote=ThanhnuFia]Got an A - parents ignored it.
Got anything under an A - parents made a huge deal out of it.
I don't give a flying firetruck about grade anymore.[/quote]

thats my life

Got an A - parents ignored it.
Got anything under an A - parents made a huge deal out of it.
I don't give a flying firetruck about grade anymore.

[quote=Biotic]This thread is racist.[/quote]

You're dumb.
And I mean literally.

@DrKiki: I got a high B on the exam. I was good at the analysis parts but many times, it was hard to pin-point exactly which place in the book the quote came from.

Parents don't care.

Uhm, it kinda depends. On a test or Semester grade?

I cry in my sleep and get called a disgrace by my parents.
(No, jk. I just have a need to study for once and yeah.)

nothing theycan do , they really dont care, as long as i pass or do well

[quote=hidoshi94]not at all, more like grammer nazih[/quote]
Grammar*

I think my parents worry more about my Russian grade than my English grade....

And Trigonometry, oh man, the sweat that comes out of their pores.....

[quote=yennox]Wait till Uni. You'll lose that A/90%+ mentality.[/quote]

exactly this

[quote=WorkOfArt]I had to do it in high school too, except it would be for a single book. It's a lot easier when it's just one book.
For example...
The quote "Where are your manners?" was on my exam.
There were five possible novels or short novels that this "Where are your manners?" quote could have come from.
1) Nisei Daughter, which was a story about an Asian American girl in the early 1900s. Japanese, so "manners" was a very important aspect
2) The Road, which is a post-apocalyptic story about a father teaching his son independence and about the pre-apocalyptic world. There were some occasions when the father scolds his son for being too much of something.
3) Forgetfulness, which is about a murder investigation. It has a lot to do with the hospitality theme so manners is highly likely.
4) Gulliver's Travels, island of lilliput, which was a person going into foreign lands with different cultures.
5) Gulliver's Travels, Houyhnhnm area, which was the same as #4.

Then, after you determined that it came from book #1, you had to think: The entire god damn book had instances where the main character's mother or father told her to watch her manners. Whole god damn book.[/quote]

mm i had to do it for multiple books, not just one.

@yennox is wise, they speak truth.

[quote=remembrent]i had to do this in high school (the quotes thing). & it would be random hand-picked quotes as well.[/quote]

I had to do it in high school too, except it would be for a single book. It's a lot easier when it's just one book.
For example...
The quote "Where are your manners?" was on my exam.
There were five possible novels or short novels that this "Where are your manners?" quote could have come from.
1) Nisei Daughter, which was a story about an Asian American girl in the early 1900s. Japanese, so "manners" was a very important aspect
2) The Road, which is a post-apocalyptic story about a father teaching his son independence and about the pre-apocalyptic world. There were some occasions when the father scolds his son for being too much of something.
3) Forgetfulness, which is about a murder investigation. It has a lot to do with the hospitality theme so manners is highly likely.
4) Gulliver's Travels, island of lilliput, which was a person going into foreign lands with different cultures.
5) Gulliver's Travels, Houyhnhnm area, which was the same as #4.

Then, after you determined that it came from book #1, you had to think: The entire god damn book had instances where the main character's mother or father told her to watch her manners. Whole god damn book.

[quote=WorkOfArt]@kennox is right. People in high school kept that "oh my god, I must, absolutely MUST! get straight As!"

Unfortunately, that isn't going to happen in college. You spend hours on end every day trying for a 4.0, only to realize that there's a tradeoff involved.

To get a 4.0, in most majors, you need to study. Study like a madman, and it takes a lot of time to really get what's going on. I'll give you an example of a final exam I took. Read it if you wish

[quote=me]Over a single semester, that's around four months, my English 202 class (western literature) read 9 full novels, 5 short novels, and 6 academic essays. These full novels ranged anywhere from 300 to 800 pages. Short novels were 100 or so, while academic essays were a good 30 or 40 pages. Full novels included Crime & Punishment. We had some Shakespeare. Kant philosophical essays.

So what did my professor decide to do? He gave us 30 direct quotes from [b]all[/b] of these books. That's right, quotes. They could be anything in any of these novels, plays, essays, etc. Some were a mere few words. Not all books were included. Some books had three quotes and some books had none. They weren't those big quotes like [i]to be or not to be[/i]. They were small quotes that were hand picked, not the kinds you find all over the internet. Quotes that didn't give away who said it or what book it's from, but gave away just enough so that people who understand all the characters from all the books will know exactly which one it's from.

We had to answer which novel/play/essay the quote came from. The author of the novel/play/essay. Who said the quote and who the quote was directed to. Or, if the quote wasn't a character's quote, what's happening in the book before and after the quote. An analysis on the quote as to why it's important. Plot review surrounding the quote. Each quote had a small essay corresponding to it. We had 4.5 hours to finish the final exam. Each quote was graded on a 10 point scale basis.
Novel: 1
Author: 1
Who said it: (1)
Who it's said to: (1)
Plot Review: 2
Analysis: 4
If no one said the quote, then plot review would be 3 and analysis would be 5.

He curved it yes... you only had to answer 25 quotes. Made it easier, but still hard.

So my point? Well, for this English class, we couldn't do the same that we did in high school. No more "pretend to read it." No more "sparknotes is enough." Only a few of these novels were even on sparknotes in the first place. It was hardcore read the damn book or suffer a failing grade. Now you think "easy enough" right? Well, that takes a lot of time. This class had more. Essays, projects, attendance requirements, everything. And all those extra grades were worth jack poop. Fifteen page essays for a mere 5% of the grade each. Your grade still depended a lot on the midterms and finals which added up to 70% of the grade. On this class alone, I spent hours every day reading, hours every week studying. It was time draining.
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i had to do this in high school (the quotes thing). & it would be random hand-picked quotes as well.

OT: from A to B range, nothing really happens anymore. well, i still get lectured for B's, but whatever.
i got my first C in calc junior year of highschool, and i was actually very surprised that my parents didn't like kick me out or something... they acted very disappointed, kind of like they gave up on me...so senior year when i got B's n such, they weren't very hard on me. now they've switched to prepping my brother for med school or something (he's going into 6th grade so..)

[quote=Ickest]You guys are making me scared of college this Fall.

It can't possibly be hard enough where one goes from a Straight-A average to barely scraping by with a C.

.... can it?[/quote]

Depends really. I don't study unless I have to... if it's a lecture type class that only takes tests, then I'd study just before a test. But I study fast, and memorize things easily. Grasp concepts quickly. So I put a "meh" amount of effort for a 3.5. I've seen hard workers get a mere 3.0, and seen lazy bums get a 4.0. I doubt you'd get anything lower than a 3.3 average, if you goof off a lot.

Now that's ignoring all the people who get into college and find a new passion in smoking pot or drinking until you drop...

I've always been an A/B+ student.

My parents don't care as long as I'm not failing.

[quote=WorkOfArt]@kennox is right. People in high school kept that "oh my god, I must, absolutely MUST! get straight As!"

Unfortunately, that isn't going to happen in college. You spend hours on end every day trying for a 4.0, only to realize that there's a tradeoff involved.

To get a 4.0, in most majors, you need to study. Study like a madman, and it takes a lot of time to really get what's going on. I'll give you an example of a final exam I took. Read it if you wish

[quote=me]Over a single semester, that's around four months, my English 202 class (western literature) read 9 full novels, 5 short novels, and 6 academic essays. These full novels ranged anywhere from 300 to 800 pages. Short novels were 100 or so, while academic essays were a good 30 or 40 pages. Full novels included Crime & Punishment. We had some Shakespeare. Kant philosophical essays.

So what did my professor decide to do? He gave us 30 direct quotes from [b]all[/b] of these books. That's right, quotes. They could be anything in any of these novels, plays, essays, etc. Some were a mere few words. Not all books were included. Some books had three quotes and some books had none. They weren't those big quotes like [i]to be or not to be[/i]. They were small quotes that were hand picked, not the kinds you find all over the internet. Quotes that didn't give away who said it or what book it's from, but gave away just enough so that people who understand all the characters from all the books will know exactly which one it's from.

We had to answer which novel/play/essay the quote came from. The author of the novel/play/essay. Who said the quote and who the quote was directed to. Or, if the quote wasn't a character's quote, what's happening in the book before and after the quote. An analysis on the quote as to why it's important. Plot review surrounding the quote. Each quote had a small essay corresponding to it. We had 4.5 hours to finish the final exam. Each quote was graded on a 10 point scale basis.
Novel: 1
Author: 1
Who said it: (1)
Who it's said to: (1)
Plot Review: 2
Analysis: 4
If no one said the quote, then plot review would be 3 and analysis would be 5.

He curved it yes... you only had to answer 25 quotes. Made it easier, but still hard.

So my point? Well, for this English class, we couldn't do the same that we did in high school. No more "pretend to read it." No more "sparknotes is enough." Only a few of these novels were even on sparknotes in the first place. It was hardcore read the damn book or suffer a failing grade. Now you think "easy enough" right? Well, that takes a lot of time. This class had more. Essays, projects, attendance requirements, everything. And all those extra grades were worth jack poop. Fifteen page essays for a mere 5% of the grade each. Your grade still depended a lot on the midterms and finals which added up to 70% of the grade. On this class alone, I spent hours every day reading, hours every week studying. It was time draining.

And that's just one class. While freshman year is usually lax, sophomore and junior year is worse. What I mentioned above is normal for every class. So you'd have all that time, times five. Want to get an A? Well, spend all that time studying.

But what's the trade off that I mentioned?

Well, spending time studying means no time for extracurriculars. These extracurriculars matter a LOT when trying to find a job. I only have a 3.5 GPA and I got two internships already: one working in school (which gives me a 10% discount for all purchases), and an unpaid internship at the mayor's office for the summer. For the school internship I competed against 20 students, and for the mayor's office I competed against 145 freshmen, where only 3 were chosen. People I competed against had 4.0s. Why did I win the spot then? Simple: I have experience. It's a financial position, so my position as treasurer for several clubs helped.

If you're trying to do both extracurriculars AND studying, you won't have time for [b]anything else.[/b] People I know who try to do both lose a LOT of sleep and almost never have time. They don't party, they don't exercise, they don't game, they don't chill. I can't do that. I can't spend all my time on academics and extracurriculars. So I exercise, party, game. The result? Lower GPA. It's only my freshman year, meaning this is already as lax as it can get. In future years, I will have to two treasurer/officer positions and only retain one. I will only be a regular member for some clubs, or just a volunteer member for whenever I have time.

So, no, it's not too reasonable to try and get straight A's in college unless you're absolutely brilliant, you cheat a LOT, or you sacrifice extracurriculars or recreational activity. I'm none of the above, and my parents know that, so they don't punish me for not getting straight As.

Plus, I was pretty damn retarded in middle school, so the fact that I'm not employed at McDonalds and trying to apply to ITT Tech makes them happy enough.[/quote]

Omfg. I took the similar layout for my Western Culture class, except I had only 1 hour & 50 minutes to finish 8 quotations & in addition to that, I had to define 10 vocabularies that my professor had never once mentioned in class. (Maybe like 3-4 of them appeared during discussion)

Even my philosophy final was easier than this

OT; I normally settle for what I get as long as it's not a D or F, not putting much effort on trying to get A.

[quote=MellowYellow]aiming for a 50% pass rate wont guarantee you a job with all this greek financial crisis that's going on[/quote]

Sounds safe, having a medical student who only got 50%'s on all his test, examine me or do surgery.

Edit: not Asian here.
For me getting a C+ is fine, my parents care for the most part, but they really understand if i do bad like a D.
Because they'll probably say "ohh yea i had problems in that class, do your best"
Mhm American parents.
But yes no more high school for me wo woo
On to college...mhm<3333

[quote=DrKiki]I'm definitely not ready to go to college yet! =P Thank god I have senior year and some AP classes to put me in shape. That English class you took seems like total hell.

The quotes would have absolutely killed me[/quote]

Yep. You could see so many people trying to cheat. Two people got kicked out for being caught cheating, and it's a tiny 25 person class. Cheating = XF grade = really really bad for the rest of your college life. Getting caught means you can't have officer position in clubs, participate in certain events, receive certain honors, join certain clubs, etc. For the rest of your college career. It'll permanently be on record... wait till you see what your employers think when they see a big fat "Cheater" on your official college record! Good luck after that. If you cheat, it better be god a damn brilliant method.

Most people don't need to take English classes like that. I'm a business major so I didn't even need to take it. Well, I needed an upper level English course eventually, but it's meant to be taken in junior year. Instead, I took it during freshman year, so of course it took my by surprise when I bought 12 books for one class (some short novels were put together into one larger novel, such as Gulliver's Travels)..

I hate it when people get racist and stereotypical mixed up. [b][i]THIS IS AN ASIAN STEREOTYPE, NOT RACISM.[/i][/b]

OT: Um as long as I don't get a D, my parents are OK with it. Funny enough though, when my parents signed me up for tutoring, my grades actually slipped.

my stab myself in the stomach with a sword
and wait until i die =/

@kennox is right. People in high school kept that "oh my god, I must, absolutely MUST! get straight As!"

Unfortunately, that isn't going to happen in college. You spend hours on end every day trying for a 4.0, only to realize that there's a tradeoff involved.

To get a 4.0, in most majors, you need to study. Study like a madman, and it takes a lot of time to really get what's going on. I'll give you an example of a final exam I took. Read it if you wish

[quote=me]Over a single semester, that's around four months, my English 202 class (western literature) read 9 full novels, 5 short novels, and 6 academic essays. These full novels ranged anywhere from 300 to 800 pages. Short novels were 100 or so, while academic essays were a good 30 or 40 pages. Full novels included Crime & Punishment. We had some Shakespeare. Kant philosophical essays.

So what did my professor decide to do? He gave us 30 direct quotes from [b]all[/b] of these books. That's right, quotes. They could be anything in any of these novels, plays, essays, etc. Some were a mere few words. Not all books were included. Some books had three quotes and some books had none. They weren't those big quotes like [i]to be or not to be[/i]. They were small quotes that were hand picked, not the kinds you find all over the internet. Quotes that didn't give away who said it or what book it's from, but gave away just enough so that people who understand all the characters from all the books will know exactly which one it's from.

We had to answer which novel/play/essay the quote came from. The author of the novel/play/essay. Who said the quote and who the quote was directed to. Or, if the quote wasn't a character's quote, what's happening in the book before and after the quote. An analysis on the quote as to why it's important. Plot review surrounding the quote. Each quote had a small essay corresponding to it. We had 4.5 hours to finish the final exam. Each quote was graded on a 10 point scale basis.
Novel: 1
Author: 1
Who said it: (1)
Who it's said to: (1)
Plot Review: 2
Analysis: 4
If no one said the quote, then plot review would be 3 and analysis would be 5.

He curved it yes... you only had to answer 25 quotes. Made it easier, but still hard.[/quote]

So my point? Well, for this English class, we couldn't do the same that we did in high school. No more "pretend to read it." No more "sparknotes is enough." Only a few of these novels were even on sparknotes in the first place. It was hardcore read the damn book or suffer a failing grade. Now you think "easy enough" right? Well, that takes a lot of time. This class had more. Essays, projects, attendance requirements, everything. And all those extra grades were worth jack poop. Fifteen page essays for a mere 5% of the grade each. Your grade still depended a lot on the midterms and finals which added up to 70% of the grade. On this class alone, I spent hours every day reading, hours every week studying. It was time draining.

And that's just one class. While freshman year is usually lax, sophomore and junior year is worse. What I mentioned above is normal for every class. So you'd have all that time, times five. Want to get an A? Well, spend all that time studying.

But what's the trade off that I mentioned?

Well, spending time studying means no time for extracurriculars. These extracurriculars matter a LOT when trying to find a job. I only have a 3.5 GPA and I got two internships already: one working in school (which gives me a 10% discount for all purchases), and an unpaid internship at the mayor's office for the summer. For the school internship I competed against 20 students, and for the mayor's office I competed against 145 freshmen, where only 3 were chosen. People I competed against had 4.0s. Why did I win the spot then? Simple: I have experience. It's a financial position, so my position as treasurer for several clubs helped.

If you're trying to do both extracurriculars AND studying, you won't have time for [b]anything else.[/b] People I know who try to do both lose a LOT of sleep and almost never have time. They don't party, they don't exercise, they don't game, they don't chill. I can't do that. I can't spend all my time on academics and extracurriculars. So I exercise, party, game. The result? Lower GPA. It's only my freshman year, meaning this is already as lax as it can get. In future years, I will have to two treasurer/officer positions and only retain one. I will only be a regular member for some clubs, or just a volunteer member for whenever I have time.

So, no, it's not too reasonable to try and get straight A's in college unless you're absolutely brilliant, you cheat a LOT, or you sacrifice extracurriculars or recreational activity. I'm none of the above, and my parents know that, so they don't punish me for not getting straight As.

Plus, I was pretty damn retarded in middle school, so the fact that I'm not employed at McDonalds and trying to apply to ITT Tech makes them happy enough.

[quote=yennox]Wait till Uni. You'll lose that A/90%+ mentality.[/quote]

Why do you say that?

In uni, they don't really care that much, some subjects I can get below a 75%...but that's cos I suck at it, the rest, I'm usually around 75%+.

[quote=BanzaiFoo]I think i'll feel good as long as I get above a C+ ..but if its a class that I thought I was going to get a D in. I would gladly take a C.[/quote]
Sounds like me. I do not fit into the smart asian stereotype.

[quote=SteezyPerson]@Biotic: racist.[/quote]
not at all, more like grammer nazih

[quote=Biotic]This thread is racist.[/quote]

The world is racist, get used to it

[quote=yennox]Wait till Uni. You'll lose that A/90%+ mentality.[/quote]

yeah, considering some courses have a ~50% pass mark
arts degrees etc.
med school?

Wait till Uni. You'll lose that A/90%+ mentality.

Personally, i feel like total crap. Even a 79, i still feel like crap.