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What kind of sex ed? We had those in 3rd grade in Germany

@TrueAtheist what i've heard so far from protesters, is that the parents don't want their kids to lose their 'innocence' and think that first graders shouldn't be learning what male and female genitalia are

What better opinion to hear than the actual children who would have to go through this/who went through some sort of sex ed.

I don't see a single logical reason why anyone would oppose this.

idc I'm not canadian

The first time I learned about anything sexual was back in grade 6 when I saw a pair of tig ol bitties in an overhead in class.

What concerns me about the new sex-ed curriculum is how early it starts. Graphical lessons on sexual body parts in grade 1? How many prepubescent kids will honestly be able to appreciate these kinds of lessons? I'm not so sure about teaching gender identity in grade 3 either. I get the feeling that most (if not all) kids at that age just aren't at the point in their life where they'd be able to properly understand and digest this sort of knowledge. It just seems like the perfect way to confuse kids.

Ultimately, I think the most important part is the execution of the curriculum. Ideally, all of the teachers will have enough common sense to be delicate about the topic. Critics are pointing out that the government is now encouraging kids to m********e in grade 6 (damn you, stupid censor), but as I recall from my grade 6 sex-ed classes, m**********n was only mentioned in passing as something that a lot of people end up enjoying, which I think is the most appropriate approach. I shudder at the thought of a teacher taking the "prompts" in the curriculum literally and being completely tactless about it, which realistically, seems like it's bound to happen.

I personally think it's a step in the right direction. I think the less taboo talking (and learning) about sexuality in general becomes, the less of a problem it is. So many parents try to shelter their kids from it but they still learn it elsewhere and end up making mistakes. I'm all for making kids safer through knowledge. If they know better, they'll do better. They're going to gain the knowledge one way or another, so also give them the wisdom to understand what they learned. Without that we end up with a bunch of teen aged parents who "didn't know better" I don't need to be a parent yet to know the effects of parents trying to shelter their kids from all things sexual, I saw it firsthand back when I was in high school. They still learn about it, and when their parents aren't looking they go nuts.

[quote=UnknownPerson]A change in successor does not devolve the actions and responsibilities of the government. Regardless if she was not in power, she is still associated with a government, in power for over a decade, that has old skeletons.[/quote]

"Opposition parties accused Wynne of having a role in the McGuinty government's costly decision to cancel the construction of gas plants in Mississauga and North-East Oakville in 2011, when she was co-chair of the Liberal campaign.[41] Wynne denied that she was involved in the gas plant meetings or in the decision to cancel the plants,[42] and asked the Auditor General to investigate the cost of canceling the plants.[43] After months of investigation, the Auditor General released their report on the gas plants in October 2013, suggesting the cancellation of both gas plants could cost taxpayers as much as $1.1 billion.[44] After the report was released by the Auditor General, Wynne admitted the gas plant relocations "shouldn't have happened". She apologized, vowing to ensure that "this doesn't happen again."[45][46]

In February 2013, the legislative committee that had been investigating the gas plants cancellation prior to McGuinty's resignation and prorogation of the legislature in October resumed its work. Wynne called for the release of all documents related to the decision to the legislature's Justice Committee, and agreed to testify before the committee, while continuing to deny that she was involved in the decision to cancel the plants.[47] Appearing before the committee in April 2013, Wynne testified she had had no role in the decision to cancel the plants, and had learned of the decision to cancel the plants through media reports.[48]

In June 2013, opposition parties called on the Ontario Provincial Police (OPP) to open an investigation into new allegations that staffers in Premier McGuinty's office had deleted emails regarding the gas plants. On June 7, the OPP launched a criminal investigation into the deletion of the emails, after the Privacy Commissioner ruled that the gas plant emails were illegally deleted.[49][50] In April 2014, OPP investigators stated that there was no evidence that the premier had been involved in the deletion of emails related to the gas plants, and that the Premier was not the subject of their investigation, which was instead focused on staffers and bureaucrats who had worked in Premier McGuinty's office.[51] When opposition leader Tim Hudak refused to retract his suggestion that Wynne "oversaw and possibly ordered" the destruction of documents, she launched a libel suit against Hudak and the Ontario Progressive Conservative party.[52]"

This entire fiasco wouldn't have happened if local opposition to the construction of said plants wasn't so high to begin with, but I digress.

I'm not saying that the gaffes (the cancellation of gas plants in this case) were not gaffes; they were, and I'm astonished at the cost of cancellation. But to continue to blame them on Wynne simply because she was a member of government at the time is stupid, especially when independent reports have denounced any responsibility on her part.

A change in successor does not devolve the actions and responsibilities of the government. Regardless if she was not in power, she is still associated with a government, in power for over a decade, that has old skeletons and baggage.

[quote=UnknownPerson]A simple distraction from scandals and mismanagement (Gas plants and E-heath) of the Ontario Liberal Government. We have more important issues to deal with rather than this. However, I do somewhat regret casting my ballot for them to prevent a PC government.[/quote]

Both of which were associated with Wynne's predecessor and which occurred a couple of years ago.
She was at points Minister of Aboriginal Affairs, Municipal Affairs and Housing, Transportation, and most recently, Education. The gaffes of E-Health and gas plant relocation had very little, if anything, to do with her.

And distraction? I haven't read anything about the gas scandals in almost a year, and E-health in nearly two. People needn't be distracted from things they have already forgotten.

A simple distraction from scandals and mismanagement (Gas plants and E-heath) of the Ontario Liberal Government. We have more important issues to deal with rather than this. However, I do somewhat regret casting my ballot for them to prevent a PC government.

I feel as if kids learn on their own anyways. Every school has that one kid with all the "fun facts" and spreads knowledge across campus.

I'm just weirded out by the fact that they're giving lessons in sexting. Why would we need lessons on sexting? o-o" Edit: nvm. just thought about it. my boyfriend sucks at sexting. maybe he needs the lessons.

and I'm fine with it because... well the more you know...
I think its fine as long as you get the consent from the parent to teach that much in a course. Probably lay out the course curriculum to parents and see if they want their kids educated in all of that bidness or not. But, I doubt this would be any consolation, since if one kid takes this new sex ed class, all the other kids are just going to hear about this info from that kid and it'll all spread and soon you've got kids with a bit too much knowledge without their parents knowing they have this knowledge. And since the parents don't know that they have this knowledge, they won't be able to stop them from utilizing this knowledge at an early age. :x and then bring on the lawsuits and protests.

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tl;dr

I don't have a problem with what I do know about the new curriculum
Then again, I didn't have a problem with the old curriculum either.

I have 25 children with @Killeem