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[quote=Pavchka]
Well, you could "pwn" someone and declare "LOLOLOL PWNED NOOB HAHAHAHA IN YOUR FACE IDIOT", but what's even better and even more humiliating towards the person is owning that person with grace.[/quote]

I see, I see .. Thank you.

[quote=SpearCrusher]Way before then[/quote]

The person you quoted should definitely not have gotten away.

[quote=geeeomar]I just want to know whenever I'm voicing my own opinion, it's counted as flame baiting or flaming. How am I meant to get my point across to the TS or whoever I'm arguing with without raising a little bit of tone? Lol. And sometimes, I'm not even flaming.[/quote]

Well, you could "pwn" someone and declare "LOLOLOL PWNED NOOB HAHAHAHA IN YOUR FACE IDIOT", but what's even better and even more humiliating towards the person is owning that person with grace.

I just want to know whenever I'm voicing my own opinion, it's counted as flame baiting or flaming. How am I meant to get my point across to the TS or whoever I'm arguing with without raising a little bit of tone? Lol. And sometimes, I'm not even flaming.

[quote=xlolsinditsx]Would i get a suspension if i called this guy an idiot?[/quote]

Yep. As controversial as it is: when people are insulting other context isn't taken into account. An old example which still bugs me today:

A user's sister had overdosed and had been brought to hospital. Her liver was damaged and the doctors didn't know if she'd survive. The Basiler made a crucial mistake:
He came to Basil Market looking for a little sympathy.
He didn't get any sympathy. Users posted sickening replies: "Your sister deserves to burn in hell", "I hope she dies", "lol can she give me some droggies too?", "IT'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN", "Isn't she dead yet?", "Give me her number, I'm running short"... those were just some of them. At some point all the Thread Starter did was posting "SHUT UP IDIOTS SHUT UP". I myself posted a lengthy rant in which I *cough* forgot myself and insulted the people who has posted the comments. I was suspended for 10 days. I think the Thread Starter was suspended for even longer.

Even in a case like that we're not allowed to insult people. It seems crooked and unjust and maybe it is, but it's the darn rule. ><*

[quote=Pavchka]I'm afraid I can't put it back for publicity's sake. This is the correct section. Also the people who post here are generally the ones who care for the site, so I'm less likely to lose the eyebrow I still have left.

I'll discuss a few things here that people were confused about:

[b]Wrong section[/b]
If someone has posted a thread in the wrong section telling him is of little use. First of all the comment has nothing to do with the original topic, so it's spam. Secondly the user is able to move the thread. He could in theory lock and remake in the right section, but I noticed that doesn't very happen- they leave it open or they lock it and don't remake it, afraid they'll be suspended for double posting. We've become lenient on that because of the thread lock function.
If someone has misplaced his or her thread it's okay to tell him, but make sure it's not the main point of your comment, so no "Wrong section. OT: idk". What works best, depending on whether there are moderators online or not, is reporting the thread for wrong section and we'll move it.

[b]This[/b]
A policy I'm not thrilled about and which I have contested in at least 3 mod meetings. Quoting someone and saying "this" strictly speaking doesn't ad to the discussion. Also it happens at times that people quote "this" and reply with "that". Anyway... I understand the "this" "that" part, but I'm not entirely convinced about "not adding to the discussion". :S

[b]Which class threads[/b]
These come in different forms. One user complained the thread he was warned for wasn't a "which class" thread. It was.
Class comparision threads are "which class" threads, and so are "which class should I play", "Which class should I delete" and "Which class is the funnest?" The reason why we don't allow those things outside the New Player section is because the information concerning power and skills is already available; you'll just have to look it up and compare the classes yourself. When it comes to fun there's no definite answer; fun is objective. "Which class" threads also lead to flame wars (especially in some sections) because of people who post wrong information, who are biased against a class or don't want a certain class to be made and sabotage it. Finally there are tons and tons of these threads. A week ago I removed 6.
From the first page of the Thief section.
If you want to post them post them in the "New Player section". Our policy towards these threads is very mild, considering there are two pages on this site telling you not to post them.

Be right back with more.

@xRaWBMx: That's not your or my task. They have parents or teachers for that.
Heck, teachers even get paid for that... It's an unfair world. -_-

@SpearCrusher: No such suspension on your list. I guess it was before April, right?

@geeeomar: That pleases me... I think.

EDIT: I think the game's afoot now- people are demanding suspensions. If that continues I will have to lock to prevent people from being suspended.

You can believe me or not. :S That's up to you.[/quote]

Way before then

USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST
Reason: Post was too long and informative. Spam.

Original content shown here:

Looking through the comments and double checking suspension histories, I'm seeing that all of the ones being complained are not only valid, most of them are blatantly obvious for anyone who's read the rules (and all of them are obvious if you also read the rules guide). Ironically, a lot of the [i]hypothetical[/i] complaints are far harsher than what we as mods actually suspend for. People saying things along the lines of "I'll probably get suspended for this" or "You're gonna get suspended for that" are pointing out things that no mod in their right mind would suspend for. I find the former [b]especially[/b] ironic because you're basically saying "I know this is against the rules but I'm posting it anyway". Thank goodness you're wrong, but that's not the kind of attitude you should have if you actually care about suspensions (which you all seem to, since you're complaining about them).

Therein lies the main problem. 90% of suspensions are for users who don't care. Perhaps they don't care to read the rules. Perhaps they just don't care to follow them, either hoping not to get suspended (lol) or genuinely not caring about the suspension itself. Either way, they don't care. Now that's not to say that the community is the entire issue, but it's a good portion of it. You try and pull something you'd get suspended for on Basil on most other websites, they'd slap a warning on you. Keep it up like people tend to do on Basil and you'd get perma'd faster than you can start complaining.

and therein lies the secondary problem. Basil's too lenient when it comes to bans. On other forums, you get a few warnings and that's it. Sooner than later, you're done for. On Basil, you get a suspension. Then you get another suspension, and another, and another, and another. Sooner than later, you've got 30 suspensions and under the hammer's red glare your account is still there. Troublemakers aren't really dealt with unless they become serious hindrances -- when they really should've been weeded out ages ago. Still, that's our system and that's how it works for now. B's lately been experimenting with harsher punishments and automatic bans for folks that think they can safely troll with multiple accounts (another major issue), but when the curtain falls at the end of each day, there are still too many users who think (and know) that they can get away with murder and only receive a metaphorical slap on the wrist.

Now I know this whole block of text is pretty long and boring, so all the people it's actually directed towards are gonna ignore it and complain anyway, but I'm not summarizing it. [b]If you must skip most of my wall, at least read this:[/b] The moderator's job is not to suspend. It's not to ban users for breaking the rules, it's to help users. That's what we base adding new mods on, and that's what we aim to do. We're here to help you with basic site issues, to help clarify suspensions or, better yet, to help prevent those suspensions in the first place by explaining how exactly the rules work. If you've got a question, feel free to ask - we don't bite. If you've got a complaint, feel free to send it in - again, we don't bite, we actually welcome constructive criticism and reasonable suggestions (and we'll certainly never suspend someone who PMs us innocently).

That said, there is one rule that isn't listed. Many users complain about how the mods take advantage of this secret hidden rule, and they're right! We do! Nearly every single suspension comes out of users either disregarding or being unaware of this oh-so-important rule (probably the most important rule on the site, mind you!). What is this rule?

Rule 11: If you don't want to be suspended, read through what you say before you post it and [b]apply common sense[/b]. If you ever find yourself thinking "This post is risky, I might get suspended" DON'T POST IT.
[quote=Zoopreme]It's funny that mods aren't posting anything in here .
Uh oh [/quote]
Yeah, didn't see it was here, probably because it was in the wrong section.
[quote=Zoopreme]What I'm noticing here is that, basillers that try to do a mod's job get suspended . Preventing more mods from replacing you ? Why not add new mods ? Aren't they good people ? Do you believe that every single basiller is bad ?

Sorry if I don't make too much sense .[/quote]
I think that actually became an official policy because Basilers complained about it. Funny, that. Same thing with our original policy on memes, which has since lightened significantly.

[quote=guyaboveme]Would i get a suspension if i called this guy an idiot?[/quote]
You sir, seem to have absolutely zero knowledge of Rule 1.

[quote=geeomar]I LOL'ed so hard.[/quote]
And you too. Go read it!

[quote=i0wnali]Those users did not directly point you out but your obviously butthurt by their E pixels thoughts and quotes and still choose to ban them to make your E-p3n0r bigger.[/quote]

Would i get a suspension if i called this guy an idiot?

[quote=xlolsinditsx]It was an accident, though rule of thirds stats that this thread will now die out because NO ONE WILL SEE IT

/rant[/quote]

I'm afraid I can't put it back for publicity's sake. This is the correct section. Also the people who post here are generally the ones who care for the site, so I'm less likely to lose the eyebrow I still have left.

I'll discuss a few things here that people were confused about:

[b]Wrong section[/b]
If someone has posted a thread in the wrong section telling him is of little use. First of all the comment has nothing to do with the original topic, so it's spam. Secondly the user is able to move the thread. He could in theory lock and remake in the right section, but I noticed that doesn't very happen- they leave it open or they lock it and don't remake it, afraid they'll be suspended for double posting. We've become lenient on that because of the thread lock function.
If someone has misplaced his or her thread it's okay to tell him, but make sure it's not the main point of your comment, so no "Wrong section. OT: idk". What works best, depending on whether there are moderators online or not, is reporting the thread for wrong section and we'll move it.

[b]This[/b]
A policy I'm not thrilled about and which I have contested in at least 3 mod meetings. Quoting someone and saying "this" strictly speaking doesn't ad to the discussion. Also it happens at times that people quote "this" and reply with "that". Anyway... I understand the "this" "that" part, but I'm not entirely convinced about "not adding to the discussion". :S

[b]Which class threads[/b]
These come in different forms. One user complained the thread he was warned for wasn't a "which class" thread. It was.
Class comparision threads are "which class" threads, and so are "which class should I play", "Which class should I delete" and "Which class is the funnest?" The reason why we don't allow those things outside the New Player section is because the information concerning power and skills is already available; you'll just have to look it up and compare the classes yourself. When it comes to fun there's no definite answer; fun is objective. "Which class" threads also lead to flame wars (especially in some sections) because of people who post wrong information, who are biased against a class or don't want a certain class to be made and sabotage it. Finally there are tons and tons of these threads. A week ago I removed 6.
From the first page of the Thief section.
If you want to post them post them in the "New Player section". Our policy towards these threads is very mild, considering there are two pages on this site telling you not to post them.

Be right back with more.

@xRaWBMx: That's not your or my task. They have parents or teachers for that.
Heck, teachers even get paid for that... It's an unfair world. -_-

@SpearCrusher: No such suspension on your list. I guess it was before April, right?

@geeeomar: That pleases me... I think.

EDIT: I think the game's afoot now- people are demanding suspensions. If that continues I will have to lock to prevent people from being suspended.

You can believe me or not. :S That's up to you.

I remember quoting somebody who called a troll an idiot and I got suspended for it but he didn't >.>

[quote=Pavchka]Wow, a lot of people in this thread thought they could insult us (saying we have no life, that we're nerds, that we are stupid- that last one is to my surprise Low-worthy) and get away with it. I guess the "HE'S BUTTHURT SO HE SUSPENDED ME" argument will show once their suspension has word off. I'm afraid that we are also users, not robots, and that you're therefore not allowed to insult us.

As for the troll thing:
I understand how controversial it is, but before my time it was decided "troll" is an insult. Therefore it's not to be used against another person. Also calling someone a troll or saying he's trolling isn't helpful to the discussion. I use that loophole to suspend "trollcallers" for rule #2; Spam (12 hours) instead of rule #1; Attacking (24 hours), effectively cutting the suspension length in half.

Here are some helpful threads for people who don't really know how the rules work, because I've noticed a few:
http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStory-Guide-Official-Basilmarket-Policies-271.html
http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStory-Guide-Basilmarket-Rules-290.html[/quote]

Unfortunately Basilers don't have the highest sense of diplomacy. I wanted to get to some sort of change on BM. Seems only stupid stuff is hapenning

I always get Suspended for so-called insulting people......
(To mods) Sometimes people need to called idiots -_-

[quote=Pavchka][b]and that you're therefore not allowed to insult us.[/b][/quote]

I LOL'ed so hard.

[quote=Pavchka]You posted this thread in the wrong section, but I moved it instead of suspending you and also deleting the critical thread.

Funny you listed it as a reason for suspension. Did you purposely or accidentally misplace it? If you purposely misplaced it we will have to suspend you.

[/quote]

It was an accident, though rule of thirds stats that this thread will now die out because NO ONE WILL SEE IT

/rant

Wow, a lot of people in this thread thought they could insult us (saying we have no life, that we're nerds, that we are stupid- that last one is to my surprise Low-worthy) and get away with it. I guess the "HE'S BUTTHURT SO HE SUSPENDED ME" argument will show once their suspension has word off. I'm afraid that we are also users, not robots, and that you're therefore not allowed to insult us.

As for the troll thing:
I understand how controversial it is, but before my time it was decided "troll" is an insult. Therefore it's not to be used against another person. Also calling someone a troll or saying he's trolling isn't helpful to the discussion. I use that loophole to suspend "trollcallers" for rule #2; Spam (12 hours) instead of rule #1; Attacking (24 hours), effectively cutting the suspension length in half.

Here are some helpful threads for people who don't really know how the rules work, because I've noticed a few:
http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStory-Guide-Official-Basilmarket-Policies-271.html
http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStory-Guide-Basilmarket-Rules-290.html

You posted this thread in the wrong section, but I moved it instead of suspending you and also deleting the critical thread.

Funny you listed it as a reason for suspension. Did you purposely or accidentally misplace it? If you purposely misplaced it we will have to suspend you.

I got suspended for calling a TS a troll and he was,
they told me i had to report it not point at it -.-

[quote=d4rkxStrIfe]I got suspended for voicing my opinion on homosexuality not being normal.
Reason? Being hateful.
I mean seriously? I cannot voice my opinion just because the majority of the people think otherwise?[/quote]

I got banned for the exact same thing,
Reason: Flaming
The Problem: I was the one getting flamed for voicing my opinion lols.

[quote=MomoSnipes]@That one guy, I wrote a rather large wall of text to respond to your post, but it glitched. I'll try to shorten it zzz.

Look@The community now and compare to years ago.

Yeah, I agree, but I was talking about people who could clearly understand the meaning, yet do it anyway.

Okay.

Topics such as those don't belong on this site.

For freedom of speech, again it doesn't apply. If a founder of a private business wants to hire all beautiful people and fire all people who are ugly, it's justified because it's privately owned. They make up their own rules, as long as they are not breaking the law by scamming people, committing fraud, stealing etc. they can do whatever they please. Which is why MrB says "it's his site, not your forum".[/quote]

Your argument is flawed. The point is Mr B CAN'T have the website without US, the community. Unless Mr B is rich and has money to spare for ongoing hosting costs, he needs the money we give him when we view ads. Therefore unlike a private business, if people get mad at him/the website and leave, the website falls aswell.

Suspensions are out of control? Yes.
Have i been suspended for retarded reasons that make no sense? Yes.
Do i care or give a damn? No

[quote=superandy118]Basilmarket needs the following new features (sorry if they exist already)

- when a suspension is imposed, the suspended person will be notified which moderator suspended him/her
- a dispute system = when your suspend, you would be allow to dispute it ( only if you don't get banned often)
- ability to move a thread to another section in case the writer put it in the wrong section
- ability to allowed to change thread title name = I spelt a word incorrectly and wanted to fix it bit instead the bot fixed it 1 hour later
- a 3 strike policy = for minor offences a 3 strike before suspension should occur
- a 3 strike policy for moderator = moderator who contiously suspend people for no reason or for extremely minor offense should be stripped of they power forever.[/quote]

[*]Already taken under consideration and was shot down. Not happening.
[*]That is done through the report feature, where Mr. B serves as judge, jury, and executioner.
[*]This is done via PM to a mod/upon request/mod's discretion.
[*]This is done via PM to a mod/mod's discretion.
[*]They at least added warnings, which is a step up from the all-or-nothing suspension style that was used before.
[*]Suspensions can be disputed. They make mistakes. I've seen mods make mistakes and have the entire forum community flame them for it (i.e. Shroomsly after [i]one[/i] mistake). This seems a bit too drastic.

Yeah, it's starting to get pretty ridiculous. Like at least 15 bans in the past few months just buy saying little things that didn't affect much, even though i was seriously trying to help someones dilemma. Rather, i get banned for something i didn't say. "i.e quoting something, and then the original quoter changed what he said, meaning that i was further in the wrong, resulting in only me suspended, but not him."

[quote=MomoSnipes]@dark whatever your name is, can't copy your name on my phone You obviously don't get my point. I'm really not going to explain it, because you'll most likely give a stubborn response, and disregard it anyways. I agree SOME rules should be adjusted as to what extent is really breaking them, but most of the rules make sense.

Grammar Nazi = Not needed, counts as spam.
Saying hi to a friend via posting in a thread = off topic, which also counts as something not helpful to the thread topic and is basically spam.
Voicing your opinion about homosexuality? I really shouldn't have to explain this, but I will. Opinion or not, this is flamebaiting.

Freedom of Speech does not apply to BM, because it is a privately owned website. Just saying.[/quote]

Perhaps you are the one being equally stubborn also, or do you not have a legitimate argument to back up your claims?
The problem lies in the open-endedness of the rules, which makes them subject to possible arbitrary or draconian interpretation. The best example of this is the flame-baiting rule, which is so broad that a variety of things can be construed as flame-baiting yet were not written with the intention of doing so.

I'll agree that at times, being a Grammar Nazi is unnecessary, but for cases in which it is needed to make someone's horrifically abysmal grammar understandable, it should be acceptable.

I personally don't care if people are/are not allowed to say hi to other people in threads. It's such a trivial issue that I personally think it should be disregarded altogether. There are much more pressing issues for mods to attend to.

As for my comment on homosexuality not being normal, it was posted in a thread asking the cliched question of "Should gay marriage be allowed in Maplestory?"
So if I answer with a no, and to stop making such threads because Nexon would never do it, and add my personal opinion that I believe homosexuality is not normal, I deserve to get suspended for flamebaiting merely because the majority of the replies in the thread were pro-gay marriage? It's a frightening prospect when you are persecuted for what you personally believe in. How is voicing my opinion on homosexuality "hate speech?" The mods might as well ban me for being a "racist" for posting a thread supporting SB 1070 and state attempts to change birthright citizenship for illegal immigrants.

While Basil may be privately owned, it should still support measures of free speech. People should be able to express their opinions on issues without persecution.

Honestly, the suspensions have been better and worse.

Back when I was still 100% active here, I got suspended for the stupidest things. Once, I was suspended for talking about how the Maple community got worse after a recent incident in-game. I got suspended for that and argued the suspension, the last response to the argument was the "It's my site, not your forum" response, despite being able to prove I wasn't wrong. After that, I got suspended again a month later for something that I was able to prove wasn't against the rules. Again, I disputed it and it resulted into falling back on the "It's my site, not your forum" reasoning.
These were about a year ago (give or take a month or two).

I've said this before, and I'll say it again. [i]The rules are too loose.[/i] Yes, this allows for more freedom, but then again, it allows for more loopholes, both by Basilers and mods. This results in moderators being able to squeeze an infraction into those loopholes, while Basilers later reciprocate to the community about it, which causes chaos. On the flip side of that, Basilers are able to squeeze posts in between the loopholes, thus pushing mods to their limits, but remaining infraction-free. But, we never hear about these instances, unless another Basiler feels offended. Again, this results in a Mods v. Basilers debate.

I still think the rules should be more defined. If they were, I'm sure this wouldn't be happening. Honestly, I love how the rules are set up on SP and on Sleepy, but I absolutely hate the communities there. But, I prefer the community here over the ones there, but it's not even worth posting anymore here since any post made on Basil can end up being bait for a ban, regardless of the reason.

It is funny that they give out warning after suspension. I got suspended before and later I got mail in my box that says warning. What is the point of giving out warnings when someone already got suspended? People in other counties always bash on China's internet censorship and yet I have not suspended in any Chinese forums once.

[quote=MtDewBishop]I got banned for telling a moron that their mother should have practise safe sex and learned to swallow. I guess that merits a ban too. Seems like people do not support freedom of speech lol.[/quote]

I would not feel offended if this was directed at me, as I see these types of comments daily on the Internet. But on Basil, this is a flagrant violation of the "Attacking other users" rule and interpreting it word for word, definitely warrants a suspension.

I don't necessarily agree with the rules, but I'll agree that your comment was definitely suspendable under those grounds. I've been suspended countless times for far less, so don't complain over a suspension if something you said along those lines was the cause of it.

Edit: Also, what you said isn't necessarily freedom of speech. It can be construed as defamation/libel.

well, i got suspended from 3 times in 1 thread, take that! (rule 2#)
but only thing i don't undertand, that you can be suspended for posting to wrong section, usually on forums MODS CHANGE IT TO RIGHT SECTION *wink wink*
it good to have rules, but some of them just doesn't make sense, but i can't change rules

EDIT: @above freedom of speech doesn't mean you can say anything! even i would have reported you. You could take that as: "you are idiot, you should kill yourself", would you say that to anyone you maybe don't like that much?

i got BAN for saying MR BASIL supports hackers..... but its true. so why the ban?

[quote=MomoSnipes]http://www.urbandictionary.com/iphone/#define?term=Basil%20Market

Look at what this site has been reduced to. Seriously guys. Also, link probably doesn't get redirected properly, so just UD the definition of BM yourself. You have to admit the BM community has been getting worse and worse over the years.[/quote]

You're trying to use UrbanDictionary as a legitimate example? That's not even credible evidence of the state of Basil.
Even if the community of Basil is deteriorating, that does not justify the arbitrary and draconian enforcement of rules by mods.

[quote=Virility]although EVERYONE on this thread WILL be SUSPENDED, i was once suspended for dropping my keyboard. Reason? Spam. I mean i couldn't even edit it cuz i was already suspended.

Basil is very strict.

Racist stuff and arguement fuelers are right to be suspended on the spot. But trolling? Sheesh

troll=fun

suspension=-uck basil for how ever many days and come back with revenge

mods don't even care about your reason and by the time your ticket has been viewed you've already gone through it.[/quote]

Most forums have some form of policy against trolling, so that point is moot. It would be entertaining to allow some form of trolling, but then again, people can get offended, disturbed, annoyed, etc, so it's not allowed here.

I'm more worried about the lack of the ability to express one's opinions on this site than about being able to troll.

[quote=Kithanne]Because some mods are a little hurrp butthurt durrp over little details

Example: I got suspended for criticism of someone

Then again, some "rules" from [i]that site[/i]:
-there are no real rules about posting
-there are no real rules about moderation either - enjoy your ban

in before me getting banned for posting this
Olsothugaim[/quote]

Even with the almost nonexistence of rules on that site, a lot of the non-adult content boards are quite remarkably handled by the people there. Even though that site is associated with trolling, quite a few of the boards are well maintained with helpful, intelligent, and mature people there as opposed to the flotsam of immaturity that is all too often found on this site. Draconian rules do not necessarily contribute to a better community, as it all depends on the individual to begin with.

We need to "obamanize" this website. Starting with a new motto.

[quote=persephone99]Actually, the rules on Basil are pretty lenient compared to other forums, and there are more warnings nowadays (and smaller suspensions).
And most of these are common sense, really, so they shouldn't be too hard to follow.

@Asianscott: Was that your entire post? If so, then it didn't contribute to the topic and is considered spam. Or did you quote someone and said that? That's attacking.[/quote]

The thread has something to do with how shad's are assholes to other players 0.0 and i just said
"idgaf"
cuz yaknow, i'm kewl like that.

@malapo:
Correct but the link is still inappropriate, even if you need to [i]"scroll down".[/i] If you wanted to share wallpapers you should link directly to them.

[quote=d4rkxStrIfe]Personally, I feel that the newer mods have become power trips after they became mods. Don't they remember that they were once average Basilers too? Or perhaps they were the ones that reported other people for the most trivial things to begin with. Sure, there's been an influx of trolls and immature idiots on the site, but does that justify the collateral damage that happens to normal Basilers who want to express their opinion or try to point something out? Anything these days can be construed as attacking or flamebaiting that it's getting way out of hand.[/quote]

You seem to be common in this thread 0.0. But that's a good thing, lets voice out our opinions and show the mods what we think.

WE NEED CHANGE!

[quote=superandy118]I think moderator should put themselves in our shoes. Although I never been suspended , I think moderator should first think why did they write that post? Constructive debates or informing someone something should not result in a banned. Although I don't know how they go about banning, this does give basil a bad reputation. I think basil should hire a few more moderators and see how things go.[/quote]

Personally, I feel that the newer mods have become power trips after they became mods. Don't they remember that they were once average Basilers too? Or perhaps they were the ones that reported other people for the most trivial things to begin with. Sure, there's been an influx of trolls and immature idiots on the site, but does that justify the collateral damage that happens to normal Basilers who want to express their opinion or try to point something out? Anything these days can be construed as attacking or flamebaiting that it's getting way out of hand.

The mods should to go to a firing range, shoot out all of their anger/trigger happiness, and then come back to mod "properly".

I got suspended once for posting a video with "innapropriate content". It was fake, and they were using lightsabers. There was really (almost) nothing wrong with that video, at all. Mod just clicked it, watched one second, then banned me. =-=

I agree, the suspensions have gotten out of hand. I think we should take all of the basilers, and push them somewhere else...like sleepywood. =_= Seriously, the rules are too strict and allow little to no room for free thought or expression without a person being banned for whatever stupid reason they can think of.

the MODs hate me.
they suspend me for every little slip-up that occurs.
when its not even that serious.

@malapo:
You posted a link to a site containing drugs and adult pics once but I guess that the post was just deleted when a suspension would be appropriate.

[quote=geeeomar]I got banned for "flame baiting" when I was just voicing out my opinion. If you're entitled to your own opinion in the real world, why aren't you allowed on this site? [/quote]

I can't stress how many times that has happened to me also. Like I said, apparently any unpopular or controversial opinion can get you suspended under the premise of "flame baiting" or "hate speech." It's quite ridiculous, I say. It's as if you are not allowed to disagree with the majority when discussing a controversial/debatable topic.

I got banned for "flame baiting" when I was just voicing out my opinion. If you're entitled to your own opinion in the real world, why aren't you allowed on this site?

watch as this thread gets everyone banned and i get banned for "spam"

I got suspended once for telling a guy his link didnt work...

I said "Your link failed." and BAM SUSPENDED.

Usually if you post in the wrong section, they give you a warning. Since you also bashed on the mods, they may abuse their power and suspended you.

[quote=HellzHeal]Technically, it isn't normal, its a genetic deformity. Had to do a project on it who knows what may happen to me now[/quote]

Regardless of homosexuality being a lifestyle that develops or being a genetic deformity, why should I be suspended for voicing my personal opinion on an issue?
Just because people don't agree with me? Such mentality is what leads to persecution of expression.

I got suspended for posting a picture of a girl that she posted ONLINE without her permission. Once it's online and public, its online and PUBLIC. And I also got suspended for quoting a guy who said "AHAHAH YOU GOT SCAMMED NOOB STUPID AMERICANS BAD ECONOMY" to me. I quoted and added that I was from canada and got suspended. That was a lie but that shouldn't have deserved a suspension. I also got suspended for pointing out a troll instead of reporting.. the thread was very controversial and I wanted to tell people that the troller was a troll, so the other readers wouldn't be misinformed BUTTTT. no. Suspendy. I think I'm going to get suspended for this comment but I want my voice to be heard.

[quote=d4rkxStrIfe]I got suspended for voicing my opinion on homosexuality not being normal.
Reason? Being hateful.
I mean seriously? I cannot voice my opinion just because the majority of the people think otherwise?[/quote]

Technically, it isn't normal, its a genetic deformity. Had to do a project on it who knows what may happen to me now

Edit: double post... >.>

-looks at yesterday-

Some rules are needed, but I agree, the censorship levels need to go waaaaay down. No enough to cause chaos, but enough so you don't get suspended for every little thing you do.

[quote=SoulEatcha]It's all common sense,
Swearing/trolling/attacking/discussing illegal activities gets you no where in real life,
Same with Basil,[/quote]

Comparing Basil to real life is an illogical comparison.
Mods can interpret the rules in any fashion they want.

Here's an example. Pretty much any unpopular or controversial opinion on Basil earns a suspension. Where's the freedom of expression of one's opinions? I'm pretty sure that exists in real life. But not on Basil.