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@justsofly: justsoftly pliz, i dun like hard dies.

[quote=king2123]Mages with elements Use staves because its gives Special damage boosts. To I/L a 7 or 8 may be just as effective as terminus/ fafnir.... I think o.o[/quote]

They only receive a 10%/5% elemental bonus. Completely negligible.

@ClericBoi81: Somebody bout to die tonight.

@justsofly Crush my hopes and dreams yduncha... ty @justsoftly ELE RODS FTW!

#moardamages

@ClericBoi81: The amount of fail on your post is OP steph LOL. Lumi's can't even use staves

EDIT: @Cincinna Didn't even link my name correctly lols. Nonetheless, elementless staves are basically every other staff excluding ele..staves lol

@LoveOutLoud: meh.. thats what it looks

[quote=Deadly1337]ikr. our 100% vertical main attack skill is far superior to your main skill that hits multiple platforms, multiple directions, benefits from elemental staves/wands, can lose it's element and if i remember correctly, is much faster and useful than our skill.[/quote]

Multiple platforms? Remind me how that matters in DI and SDH.

[quote=4023][i]Ha, ha.[/i] In case you haven't noticed, Angel Ray is far stronger than anything in an I/L's arsenal.[/quote]

ikr. our 100% vertical main attack skill is far superior to your main skill that hits multiple platforms, multiple directions, benefits from elemental staves/wands, can lose it's element and if i remember correctly, is much faster and useful than our skill.

[quote=zilliro]yeah, the absence of "holy" staves is odd. after all, bishops are known for nothing if not their damage output.[/quote]

[i]Ha, ha.[/i] In case you haven't noticed, Angel Ray is far stronger than anything in an I/L's arsenal.

@king2123:

30% boss with 10% ignore on top of an additional 30% boss for completing the fafnir set and extra magic att (given they have like 30ish more magic att clean on fafnirs than on ele staves) > the 10% elemental damage.

not only do we suffer from bosses being strong to holy

we
1) dont get elemental reset[LOL PB SOLOS]
2) dont have access to elemental staves/wands that are beneficial to us.

so. nexon hates bishops - confirmed.

@megaops3 and @justsoftly lf<nonelemental staff
Or elementless staff o.o

[quote=justsofly]That would kind of defeat the purpose of having elemental specific boosts in the first place lol.[/quote]
Well, while we are on the subject, there should be an ele staffs 11/12 with light/dark power for Luminouses so we can has better damages. <3 <3

[quote=betaboi101]Fafnir/ terminus > ele staves anyways?[/quote]

Mages with elements Use staves because its gives Special damage boosts. To I/L a 7 or 8 may be just as effective as terminus/ fafnir.... I think o.o

Fafnir/ terminus > ele staves anyways?

[quote=SombraManx]step 1. wait 'til big crunch aura update
step 2. get a fafnir staff, you will hit cap speed on it anyways..
step 3. profit? you got a 30% dmg boost on bosses and 10% pdr, so stop whining[/quote]

he wasn't whining though

[quote=Megaops3]That would make sense since there's no damage damage reduction.
There should be an elemental staff that boosts neutral skills.[/quote]

step 1. wait 'til big crunch aura update
step 2. get a fafnir staff, you will hit cap speed on it anyways..
step 3. profit? you got a 30% dmg boost on bosses and 10% pdr, so stop whining

[quote=Megaops3]That would make sense since there's no damage damage reduction.
There should be an elemental staff that boosts neutral skills.[/quote]

That would kind of defeat the purpose of having elemental specific boosts in the first place lol.

[quote=Megaops3]I think that a dark staff would be more appreciated then a holy one[/quote]

Only evan uses the dark element. All of BaM's skills are neutral.

[quote=lnfiniteHaku]Lol the fact that you use the word "staves."[/quote]

Staves: plural for staff

Well during pre-bb, the best maps to train on (skeles, gallos, etc.) were holy weak. A bishop could easily match the dmg output of an AM because of that. Because of this, staves/wands were made to actually help "balance" out the game. But I don't think it's needed nowadays. Nexon and their brilliant balancing techniques is making support/defense classes outdamage attack classes.

That's because the staves were made for the sake of helping Arch Mages to not suck back in the day. Making a Holy Elemental Wand/Staff would go against the point.

yeah, the absence of "holy" staves is odd. after all, bishops are known for nothing if not their damage output.

Why would you need to increase the potency of a 300% heal.

But yeah, I guess for holy.