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They should do Quadruple Miracle time instead! then everyone can buy a crap load of cubes and yolo.

[quote=justaperson]as I read threads such as these, and I realize how much money Nexon makes regardless, then think of how addicted people become to this game in different ways, with things like cubing acting as substitute gambling, causing the same chemicals to be released in the brain that are related to regular gambling addictions, I can't help but wonder where people will draw their line. It seems like people complain and complain, but it doesn't really mean anything. I mean, if it bothers people so much, they don't even have to play it... but it has become a serious psychological addiction for soooo many, including me. is there anything they could do that is so aversive that we permanently quit, or is it true that the company has us completely under their control, forcing us to tolerate endless amounts of apologies because quitting is perceived is such a major loss.

I know it's just a game... I know it shouldn't matter that much prolly, that I shouldn't invest so much time and effort into it instead of orienting my focus to things that will actually help me further myself in regards to my life outside of the game, but for every person I know who has played, I've never met anyone who could quit completely.

Where could this lead..?[/quote]

trudat. currently i'm in "need" of nx but i refuse to buy it/have no motivation to because despite the fact that maple is fun i hate nexon and do not want to give them money, especially after the false advertising. lies, JUST LIES AND WE TAKE IT ALL BECAUSE WE ARE A SLAVE TO THIS GAME ! ! !

deep breathing

@billgates: Oh...thats a WHOLE nother story and wouldn't be Basil appropriate. But glad to know your at least physic.

[quote=bluebomber24]No, buddy, wheter for better or worse my personality has never changed, there are buddy moderators that weren't moderators in the past that can attest to that I have acted the same for years on Basil, even Mr. B might be able to as well. Perhaps, you never noticed my personality until I apparently and unfortunately became known as that "LGR guy". I don't act above anyone, I state what I know. Again, feel free to show me, these threads where I am talking out of my butt, oh yea you don't have "time".
So you make a claim, based on other fellow stranger mapler's opinion. In other words, you can't think for yourself, OK. I don't "try" hard to seem intelligent, I act as myself, "trying hard" achieves nothing. Basil doesn't get me money, women, or power. Hell, Basil barely has any implications on my Maple gameplay, I don't need to bend over backwards to create an impression as I gain nothing from it.

You really don't need to dig because I know its a losing game. All you will find is exactly what I stated 5 threads in which I talk about my LGR personally. Apparantly 5 times has this amazing lasting effects that I was completely unaware of. I should start stating more things repeatedly.

You can't prove that I am doing what you claim, yet you have clearly shown that you 1) like to continuously complain, 2) like to change the topic when a statement gives you a frowny face, and 3) make baseless claims that you don't want to back up and rather rely on imaginary "other people".

Edit: @above Exactly! So far, outside of the 5 times that I talked about my LGR, people have tagged ME or brought up the conversation themself, which is potentially why some may percieve me as talking on and on, which to me is somewhat funny.[/quote]

Tldr, you must be a blast at partys.

why do people make all these nexon-hate threads, the thread starter'll just get into a useless arguement with someone either way...

[quote=Caeg] I don't have the time to go through every thread finding things you posted on. But many people can agree you've acted above everyone once you got those rings.[/quote]

No, buddy, wheter for better or worse my personality has never changed, there are buddy moderators that weren't moderators in the past that can attest to that I have acted the same for years on Basil, even Mr. B might be able to as well. Perhaps, you never noticed my personality until I apparently and unfortunately became known as that "LGR guy". I don't act above anyone, I state what I know. Again, feel free to show me, these threads where I am talking out of my butt, oh yea you don't have "time".

[quote=billgates] Trust me if I didn't have fellow mapler's who have the same opinion about you I would not be making these claims, but most of the people who I know go on basil have all agreed you try way to hard to make yourself seem intelligent, and you post about LGR's too much. I don't really need to dig through your comments when I know other people who think that's all you do as well. that's about all I can say about you at least.[/quote]

So you make a claim, based on other fellow stranger mapler's opinion. In other words, you can't think for yourself, OK. I don't "try" hard to seem intelligent, I act as myself, "trying hard" achieves nothing. Basil doesn't get me money, women, or power. Hell, Basil barely has any implications on my Maple gameplay, I don't need to bend over backwards to create an impression as I gain nothing from it.

You really don't need to dig because I know its a losing game. All you will find is exactly what I stated 5 threads in which I talk about my LGR personally. Apparantly 5 times has this amazing lasting effects that I was completely unaware of. I should start stating more things repeatedly.

You can't prove that I am doing what you claim, yet you have clearly shown that you 1) like to continuously complain, 2) like to change the topic when a statement gives you a frowny face, and 3) make baseless claims that you don't want to back up and rather rely on imaginary "other people".

Edit: @above Exactly! So far, outside of the 5 times that I talked about my LGR, people have tagged ME or brought up the conversation themself, which is potentially why some may percieve me as talking on and on, which to me is somewhat funny.

oooo Basil drama. Time for more opinions!

[quote=SoCalKing]If he likes to whine, what exactly do you plan on doing about it other than pointing it out?
If he whines, let him be. If YOU enjoy the game for "fun" even though you seem to be one of the godliest BMs out there, then stay focused on your side of the gameplay and quit paying attention to those who dislike it.

One way or another the world will be filled with people that have different perspectives of a company or of a majority, in general It's their choice and lifestyle if they wish to pursue it that way. Thus, pointing out what THEY do, does nothing other than add fuel to the fire, if you enjoy doing that then I wouldn't see you as being a better person yourself.[/quote]
I kind of agree with you, but isn't that human nature? Technically you could use that "excuse" for any one person wouldn't you think? I could say the same to you. If you don't like @bluebommer24's views, couldn't you ignore him instead of "pointing it out"? I would say that commenting that COULD or MIGHT start another separate "fire"

[quote=bluebommer24]SoCalKing: Nothing, my statement was just an exasperation at the amount of complaint threads that Basil is filled with recently these days. TBH, I don't give a damn that he whines all the time. He is the one that is trying to bring some baseless claim about my basiling behavior; thus, I am just going with the flow and observing his as well. I only brought up a topic that he started.

I understand that their are perspectives, but it is somewhat known complaining over and over again gets you no where. Complaining when you have the power to change is fine, complaining when a resolution is already set in motion or complaining when you have no power to change something does nothing, instead you should find a way to deal with that issue. We know that Nexon doesn't work on the weekends, we know that a lot of things that went wrong with the event is not fair, and we know that Nexon is working on a solution. How far do you think your going to get applying this approach of constant complaiing in real life situations?

Maybe my post is adding fuel to the fire? And with the incredibly BS being thrown my way you are probably right. But it would be nice if people started to take a step back and actually analyze and move on from a problem instead staying in a negative rut.

If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude. Don't complain." Maya Angelou.

^Thats all I am trying to say.

Caeg: You have Google and the Way Back Machine and many other utensils that capture conversations, use them and show me where I did as such. I remember every single time I talked personally about my own LGRs and that thread count to my knowledge isn't higher than 5. Now, there was a person who was "proxying" me in the past and kept bringing up my LGRs and which I continuously had to tell them to shut up and stop using my name. Outside of that anomaly, if your going to claim I do otherwise, show me or get out of my face.[/quote]
I also agree with you. Sometimes you have to fight fire with fire. I mean, debating is all fine and dandy, but complaining isn't going to make Nexon any more reliable/trustworthy/whatever-else-you-have-to-throw-at-them. They've already announce that they're looking into it. Maybe they are. Maybe they're not.

[quote=BanMaster]They were doing something nice for all of us by giving us miracle time. They didn't need to give it to you, so they don't need to fix it[/quote]
This. Although if a company didn't hold any events (directing at being lazy/rude/ultra-greedy), they'd go down pretty quickly. This would be one of those.... extra benefits. I know they shouldn't be trying to rake in all the money, but what if it wasn't their fault, like @Snowbunnix3 said? They didn't really have to make this event....

EDIT: He was pointing something out... why are you guys starting to talk about his LGR o-o

@bluebomber24: I don't have the time to go through every thread finding things you posted on. But many people can agree you've acted above everyone once you got those rings.

@bluebomber24: Trust me if I didn't have fellow mapler's who have the same opinion about you I would not be making these claims, but most of the people who I know go on basil have all agreed you try way to hard to make yourself seem intelligent, and you post about LGR's too much. I don't really need to dig through your comments when I know other people who think that's all you do as well. that's about all I can say about you at least.

[quote=billgates]Yeah he's really going to dig through pages of your stupid "im a Maple genius" comments to find the ones about the LGR's. hes just stating that he sees you talking about your LGR a lot, as do I.

and I didn't even read the top, not going to bother. your over analyzing things.[/quote]

Ah, now I am saying that I am a Maple Genius, I don't think I ever typed anything close to that until this post, but "ok". This is the childish antics I am talking about. People complain over and over on a problem already relevant. Then, they are quick to claim that a person does something and when that person asks for proof of those actions, they claim they don't have the time. And I am sorry Goggle takes two minutes to find you a multitude of results. If I can find a guide I written in 2009 on basil and other posts in a few minutes, I think conversations that I have apparently had "frequently" would be a piece of cake.

I don't care whether you read the above post, irc, your name isn't in the quote.

[quote=DrLethal]Anyone else catch false advertisement and underage gambling?[/quote]

Few think in analogies, fewer care at all what the implications are, and even fewer will respond at all. Sadly, it seems to be a common motif. Especially regarding things like the bystander effect where there's a diffusion of responsibility and personal integrity

[quote=bluebomber24]@SoCalKing: Nothing, my statement was just an exasperation at the amount of complaint threads that Basil is filled with recently these days. TBH, I don't give a damn that he whines all the time. He is the one that is trying to bring some baseless claim about my basiling behavior; thus, I am just going with the flow and observing his as well. I only brought up a topic that he started.

I understand that their are perspectives, but it is somewhat known complaining over and over again gets you no where. Complaining when you have the power to change is fine, complaining when a resolution is already set in motion or complaining when you have no power to change something does nothing, instead you should find a way to deal with that issue. We know that Nexon doesn't work on the weekends, we know that a lot of things that went wrong with the event is not fair, and we know that Nexon is working on a solution. How far do you think your going to get applying this approach in real life situations?

Maybe my post is adding fuel to the fire? And with the incredibly BS being thrown my way you are probably right. But it would be nice if people started to take a step back and actually analyze and move on from a problem instead staying in a negative rut.

[b]If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude. Don't complain." Maya Angelou.[/b]

^Thats all I am trying to say.

@Caeg: You have Google and the Way Back Machine and many other utensils that capture conversations, use them and show me where I did as such. I remember every single time I talked personally about my own LGRs and that thread count to my knowledge isn't higher than 5. Now, there was a person who was "proxying" me in the past and kept bringing up my LGRs and which I continuously had to tell them to shut up and stop using my name. Outside of that anomaly, if your going to claim I do otherwise, show me or get out of my face.[/quote]

Yeah he's really going to dig through pages of your stupid "im a Maple genius" comments to find the ones about the LGR's. hes just stating that he sees you talking about your LGR a lot, as do I.

and I didn't even read the top, not going to bother. your over analyzing things.

@SoCalKing: Nothing, my statement was just an exasperation at the amount of complaint threads that Basil is filled with recently these days. TBH, I don't give a damn that he whines all the time. He is the one that is trying to bring some baseless claim about my basiling behavior; thus, I am just going with the flow and observing his as well. I only brought up a topic that he started.

I understand that their are perspectives, but it is somewhat known complaining over and over again gets you no where. Complaining when you have the power to change is fine, complaining when a resolution is already set in motion or complaining when you have no power to change something does nothing, instead you should find a way to deal with that issue. We know that Nexon doesn't work on the weekends, we know that a lot of things that went wrong with the event is not fair, and we know that Nexon is working on a solution. How far do you think your going to get applying this approach of constant complaiing in real life situations?

Maybe my post is adding fuel to the fire? And with the incredibly BS being thrown my way you are probably right. But it would be nice if people started to take a step back and actually analyze and move on from a problem instead staying in a negative rut.

[b]If you don't like something, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude. Don't complain." Maya Angelou.[/b]

^Thats all I am trying to say.

@Caeg: You have Google and the Way Back Machine and many other utensils that capture conversations, use them and show me where I did as such. I remember every single time I talked personally about my own LGRs and that thread count to my knowledge isn't higher than 5. Now, there was a person who was "proxying" me in the past and kept bringing up my LGRs and which I continuously had to tell them to shut up and stop using my name. Outside of that anomaly, if your going to claim I do otherwise, show me or get out of my face.

[quote=bluebomber24]@billgates: LOL. I talk about my LGRs a few times and all of a sudden I talk about it alot. And seeing that your using a plural, your assumption is ignorant as well.But, no I could care less about LGR, they are yesterday's news. Unlike you I don't dwell on the same thing over and over again, I move on.

No contribution to a thread? Meh, thats your opinion. My recent activity, imo, says otherwise, while yours show you like to whine.[/quote]

Most the time I see you post, it's about the LGR.

[quote=bluebomber24]@billgates: LOL. I talk about my LGRs a few times and all of a sudden I talk about it alot. And seeing that your using a plural, your assumption is ignorant as well.But, no I could care less about LGR, they are yesterday's news. Unlike you I don't dwell on the same thing over and over again, I move on.

No contribution to a thread? Meh, thats your opinion. My recent activity, imo, says otherwise, while yours show you like to whine.[/quote]

If he likes to whine, what exactly do you plan on doing about it other than pointing it out?
If he whines, let him be. If YOU enjoy the game for "fun" even though you seem to be one of the godliest BMs out there, then stay focused on your side of the gameplay and quit paying attention to those who dislike it.

One way or another the world will be filled with people that have different perspectives of a company or of a majority, in general It's their choice and lifestyle if they wish to pursue it that way. Thus, pointing out what THEY do, does nothing other than add fuel to the fire, if you enjoy doing that then I wouldn't see you as being a better person yourself.

[quote=billgates]doing something nice? HAHA my ass, more like money scheme that they failed to even come through with, and actually, by law they do need to give it to us, once they've advertised that they are going to so.[/quote]

This. And plus many people may of used their miracle cubes without knowing it wasnt on.

@billgates: LOL. I talk about my LGRs a few times and all of a sudden I talk about it alot. And seeing that your using a plural, your assumption is ignorant as well.But, no I could care less about LGR, they are yesterday's news. Unlike you I don't dwell on the same thing over and over again, I move on.

No contribution to a thread? Meh, thats your opinion. My recent activity, imo, says otherwise, while yours show you like to whine.

[quote=bluebomber24]@billgates: Nah, my statement is fine. Its a generalization purposely made to show a point, not to express an opinion. FOr example, I find it silly that your recent activity has over 5 Miracle time threads, in which I wouldn't be surprised if your complaining in all of them.[/quote]

and simply by assumption, id reckon that all your recent activity involves either you talking about your LGR rings in some way, (which you seem fond to do) or pretending to be smart, and giving no contribution to the thread at all, (which iv found you seem fond to do as well)

@billgates: Nah, my statement is fine. Its a generalization purposely made to show a point, not to express an opinion. FOr example, I find it silly that your recent activity has over 5 Miracle time threads, in which I wouldn't be surprised if your complaining in all of them.

[quote=bluebomber24]@billgates: Nope, I openly acknowledge that I am ignorant on many things and tend to say things with "IMO". So, no you realized wrong or you think you realized correctly. Whatever works for you.[/quote]

then allow me to correct your sentence, since your too ignorant to do it yourself (as you stated above):

"Its official. [b]IMO[/b] People stupidly play this game to complain and not for fun. This is my opinion and if you care about my opinion I also can't believe it took me this long to notice."

@Flamepc: I bought the cubes right at 5:01pm thinking the event would start. I'm sorry I trusted nexon.

@billgates: Nope, I openly acknowledge that I am ignorant on many things and tend to say things with "IMO". So, no you realized wrong or you think you realized correctly. Whatever works for you.

[quote=bluebomber24]Its official. People stupidly play this game to complain and not for fun. Can't believe it took me this long to notice.[/quote]

Its official. You play this game so you can comment on threads and pretend like you know everything. Didn't take me too long to realize this

Its official. People stupidly play this game to complain and not for fun. Can't believe it took me this long to notice.

I don't get why so many people bought cubes before double miracle time even started... it's not like a 2x exp event where you want to get as much out of it as possible. Double miracle time lasts for 2 hours; it's not like you're in a rush. Do you plan on using so many cubes that 2 hours isn't enough?

That doesn't make it OK for Nexon to say there will be an event and then not follow through, but still, I think you guys jumped the gun a bit.

I agree with what @Snowbunnix3 was saying: there are so many glitches in Unleashed that 2x miracle time not happening was probably just a technical issue. It's not like Nexon has somebody manually start double miracle time. Somebody probably programs in the time frame and then goes home for the weekend.

All I really wanted out of Nexon was a public apology and a reschedule. So far they gave the apology, now I'm just waiting for a new time.

[quote=H0tSauc3]The event better be in the next couple days. I bought 70 cubes and the exp in 4 days. >.<[/quote]
Sorry if I'm rude, but couldn't you have just bought the cubes during the Miracle Time?

OT: And Nexon... god, just the name itself holds so much negative crap that it can't contain it all that it shares it to its customers... are a group of d---a-- monkeys. I'll enjoy my suspension even if it means insulting them. Just toying with their customers, to a certain extent, can become inhumane, but since they're monkeys and not humans, they don't give more than a rat's tooshie. This 'investigating' bs is totally laughable. They can't 'investigate' why an event doesn't happen and they can't reschedule it for the next day, but they can 'investigate' how to make classes to be more OP and some other bs. I'd go on for more but eh.
Disclaimer: I love playing Maplestory, it's a decent game. That doesn't mean I love the company that "runs" it.
/end rant

@SoCalKing: AYMEN to this

[quote=billgates]doing something nice? HAHA my ass, more like money scheme that they failed to even come through with, and actually, by law they do need to give it to us, once they've advertised that they are going to so.[/quote]

Same goes exactly for what would happen if something like this occured on a "Black Friday" sale on any major retail store.
If the stores so happen to not program their cash registers or the codings for the discounts, imagine the outrage that would happen?
Nexon shouldn't announce something, fail to do it then fail to acknowledge it for THREE days, even then they have to "INVESTIGATE" .. so what exactly must they investigate? They've had miracle times before, they know exactly WHERE to look for why it wasn't turned on. Bunch of BS if you ask me, they'll possibly just wait it out till THIS weekend when people get their fat paychecks so therefore Nexon gets double the money than they would've with just one.

The event better be in the next couple days. I bought 70 cubes and the exp in 4 days. >.<

i regarded you, too

[quote=BanMaster]They were doing something nice for all of us by giving us miracle time. They didn't need to give it to you, so they don't need to fix it[/quote]

It's customer service though so I think they do deserve compensation in this case.
No miracle time = less people buying miracle cubes. Basically, they're not being nice, they just want more money.

[quote=PovertyShoez]I don't get why they don't just have miracle time rescheduled for today or tomorrow. Don't see whats so hard about that. They're blowing it out of proportion by making it seem like some big exploit that needs investigating...no, should of just said, "Sorry we forgot to activate the event. We will give you guys your miracle time later today/tomorrow!".[/quote]

Or maybe, JUST MAYBE, there was a programming issue with the compatibility between the new unleashed patch and 2x miracle cube time. They most likely used the same coding as the previous miracle cube time and it was a big revamp with a new User Interface and etc, so they're probably trying to figure out why it didn't work. Don't be so closed-minded.

Never spent a single cent on nexon. Glad I never did

I don't get why they don't just have miracle time rescheduled for today or tomorrow. Don't see whats so hard about that. They're blowing it out of proportion by making it seem like some big exploit that needs investigating...no, should of just said, "Sorry we forgot to activate the event. We will give you guys your miracle time later today/tomorrow!".

as I read threads such as these, and I realize how much money Nexon makes regardless, then think of how addicted people become to this game in different ways, with things like cubing acting as substitute gambling, causing the same chemicals to be released in the brain that are related to regular gambling addictions, I can't help but wonder where people will draw their line. It seems like people complain and complain, but it doesn't really mean anything. I mean, if it bothers people so much, they don't even have to play it... but it has become a serious psychological addiction for soooo many, including me. is there anything they could do that is so aversive that we permanently quit, or is it true that the company has us completely under their control, forcing us to tolerate endless amounts of apologies because quitting is perceived is such a major loss.

I know it's just a game... I know it shouldn't matter that much prolly, that I shouldn't invest so much time and effort into it instead of orienting my focus to things that will actually help me further myself in regards to my life outside of the game, but for every person I know who has played, I've never met anyone who could quit completely.

Where could this lead..?

@billgates: yea i know i just got quoted billions of time... Hate nexon with me, i support u now.

Ppl take things too srs prolly you should just relax and it is obvious that they will give it cuz they have anounced it and i dont think they want to "look bad" by not giving the miracle time plus as someone said before if you bought cubes.. they expire in 90 days.. so theres no need to be making threads about this, this is just xsfsgsdgsdgsdg
Just relax... its a game.. next time dont buy anything then.. until event start...

[quote=HairyCreatures]You're still complaining? Your cubes expires in 90 days. They're [i]investigating[/i] the issue![/quote]

errm go check the miracle cube package buddy, 7 days.

dw gaiz they'll compensate with another 2hr 2x exp/drop event like [i]always.[/i]

@BanMaster: Probably not, im just saying nexon never does anything "nice" its always in some way or another trying to get people to buy NX, and they could be in serious legal troubles if anyone (NOT SAYING THEY WILL) decided to sue.

They're going to do something about it. It's enough.
I recall a few other events where the servers were crashed, and there was no "we'll re-schedule the event" or "here's some comp".

@FlyingAlmond: WHUT. Ok, complain guys, COMPLAIN.

Nexon's motto- "We are sorry for this inconvenience"

Jokes on you Nexon I didn't buy any cubes!

[quote=BanMaster]They were doing something nice for all of us by giving us miracle time. They didn't need to give it to you, so they don't need to fix it[/quote]

doing something nice? HAHA my ass, more like money scheme that they failed to even come through with, and actually, by law they do need to give it to us, once they've advertised that they are going to so.

[quote=HairyCreatures]You're still complaining? Your cubes expires in 90 days. They're [i]investigating[/i] the issue![/quote]

the ones that were being sold as a bundle (with pot locks) expire in about 4

[quote=BanMaster]They were doing something nice for all of us by giving us miracle time. They didn't need to give it to you, so they don't need to fix it[/quote]
What about the people who usually don't buy NX and they only bought it for this event, only to find that it's been cancelled without compensation?

Don't worry, our compensation will come soon. And it's called the Demon Avenger Miracle Time.

Well they could of just, you know, NOT say anything, take your money you wasted on cubes and bathe in it while laughing at a picture of your stupid face

Be grateful they admit something was wrong

this is so ironic no matter how much nexon messes up, they still rake in more money, and people are complaining about on not being able to spend their nx.