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[quote=MSControl]nah, it translates awesome cause we have some qualities of two jobs, yet we still have to work hard ( compared to other jobs at least )[/quote]

They came after us, so no. Two jobs have qualities of us*

You should watch the Dark Knight Rises.

[quote=MSControl]And you just said that 2 jobs were similar to Drks.... That's just how awesome we are[/quote]

I don't see how that translates to awesome. More like obsoleteness and unoriginality ¬¬

[quote=Doorslam] aw ok. so umm, is nexon running out of ideas or something? i just thought the crasader shouts tiger is really unique & hope it.. doesnt get shared (LOL)[/quote]

It's similar to Arrow Rain (and a zillion other skills), except worse. No one wants a Shout rip-off LOOOL.

[quote=iVege]Oh, and Evans with Mir, Snipers with Dragon's Breath, Bishop's with Bahamut, Demon Slayer with their 4th normal attack, Mercedes with her Water Shield (exception, also so glad it never made it out of kmst), and probably a few more that I missed. Dragon Strike isn't 'oh it's there and DrKs are fine so DrKs will be fine', it's adding to the problem.

All of these were after Dragon Knights were released, by the way.[/quote]

aw ok. so umm, is nexon running out of ideas or something? i just thought the crasader shouts tiger is really unique & hope it.. doesnt get shared (LOL)

Just wait for "hyper skills" I think we will become vampires.

Phantom does its job.

[quote=Doorslam]lol the buccs have dragon strike as well so drks will still be fine[/quote]

Oh, and Evans with Mir, Snipers with Dragon's Breath, Bishop's with Bahamut, Demon Slayer with their 4th normal attack, Mercedes with her Water Shield (exception, also so glad it never made it out of kmst), and probably a few more that I missed. Dragon Strike isn't 'oh it's there and DrKs are fine so DrKs will be fine', it's adding to the problem.

All of these were after Dragon Knights were released, by the way.

lol the buccs have dragon strike as well so drks will still be fine

[quote=iVege]So how many times have you referenced a thread title now.[/quote]

Oh just doing my job to extend each of theses threads we been in, to 100 pages then I'll go back to the F/P forum.

Mmmmmmm so someone finally caught on.

So how many times have you referenced a thread title now.

"There will be no reason to make DKs/Drks soon enough" because we haven't started "A Move To Replace Dark Impale" we should all go express our "Thoughts About Dark Knights".

Inb4 new Nexon class reveal: the dark knight rises.

[quote=EpicPandora]There is a point of being dk or drk cause of hb[/quote]

That's epic. Do you know the true meaning of Pandora?

[quote=EpicPandora]There is a point of being dk or drk cause of hb[/quote]

Or Spearman.

[quote=bloi]dark knights with their sexy spears and sexy dark impale will not be replaced with this "Kaiser" that have 2-HANDED SWORDS! Not even custom weopons[/quote]

And I'm sure, to them, hacked stonetooths will look more beautiful than usual
I'll stick with the Fuscina, thank you.

@iluvme: I wonder how long it'll take you to realise that it's not a golden fairfrozen. Their shape isn't even similar apart from the fact that they're both sharp sticks with no real spearhead.

And when the Luminous comes out....

And when the Kaiser comes out....

And when the Angelic Burster comes out....

[quote=KazukiDragon]Yea we so what if we have one and it's actually a popular skill in parties. Plus if phantoms want to steal hyper body who they gunna steal it from...other phantoms nuh nuh they have to steal it from us[/quote]

Phantoms don't want your silly Hyper Body. I wouldn't use it unless someone provided me with Rage, and someone else with Bless.

And since when did I ever ever say that Hyper Body was a bad skill? If you haven't noticed, I was talking about Iron Will. In fact, my whole post was about Iron Will. I barely commented on Hyper Body, and even when I did, it was about Iron Will.

@iVege: Yea we so what if we have one and it's actually a popular skill in parties. Plus if phantoms want to steal hyper body who they gunna steal it from...other phantoms nuh nuh they have to steal it from us

@iluvme:
I felt that the class was fine pre-Ascension.
It's just that, sure we gained a very nice attacking skill, but at the expense of 1/1 protection.
Some small tweaks to skills would be nice.
Heck, Kaisers seem to have a decent support skill in the form of a party Achilles (10% for everyone, 30% for themselves)
Maybe Aura giving a party-wide heal that heals based on the DrK's hp/mp would be nice...

@iluvme:
I think we kind of realised that this would eventually happen a few months back.
And honestly, I'm perfectly fine with that.
It'll just mean that we'll see more people who play the class because they like it, not for damage or anything.
Just hoping we get something good out of the Hyper skills, but we'll see.

Don't forget Iron Will will (lol) need to be decentized - nerfed! Yeah didn't think about that huh. Now everyone will really need us~

[quote=KazukiDragon]ok dks and drks will never cease to exist as long as they have hyper body and any of their party buffs because thats what other classes want[/quote]

They only have one party buff: Hyper Body.

Now that I think about it, Iron Will would be the crappiest decent skill of all time. And to think it's a whole advancement above Haste now.

ok dks and drks will never cease to exist as long as they have hyper body and any of their party buffs because thats what other classes want

I feel like DrKs should have their Hyper Skill as a giant Dark Dragon razing the field in black flames. Kind of like Hiei's Dragon of the Darkness Flame attack in Yu Yu Hakusho.

OP: Demon Slayers will never be Dark Knights. Simple as that.

@NoNsensical: Could not have said that any better.

[quote=Zenarkenstin]Like the whole "Phantoms are gonna replace Bishops!" argument. Not gonna happen.[/quote]

they are.

@Zenarkenstin: Lol phantoms can res, shield, heal, bless plus s.e and hb etc and there's never a shortage of them. And that's funny how you make fun of phantom's dmg when most of bishops don't fund themselves cause they're so used to just leeching on a rope derp.

Hyper body? Dark impale?

[quote=Zenarkenstin]Like the whole "Phantoms are gonna replace Bishops!" argument. Not gonna happen.[/quote]

lool phantom has already replaced bishops LOL try bossing with a party full of phantoms too op

[quote=iluvme]Actually, demon slayer is not a knight at all, never mind being a dark knight. To be a knight, one must have a master/king to give them that title. It's similar to being a samurai, having a feudal lord and that sort of thing. Without a feudal lord, a samurai is just a swordsman. That being, a samurai is a swordsman that was given a title by a feudal lord. If the samurai goes rogue, then he is considered a ronin.

When DS was under the command of the Black Mage, he could have been considered a knight... idk, maybe a warrior of darkness would sound better. Now he's just pissed and pretty much dropped the "knight" title. For dark knights, it's implied that they have a master; the one who knighted them - Harmonia. Although dark knights are free-spirited adventurers, and they don't technically have masters, they were still given their title by a higher person.

I would definitely call DS a warrior of darkness, but not a dark knight.

Regarding Kaiser... I have no idea. I don't know enough about the guy to be making any statement just yet.[/quote]

Yeah, who cares about being a knight. It's about being dark.

[quote=portality]I probably won't make a Kaiser, for the same reason why I won't make an Aran: I suck at <v^> combos.[/quote]

Wait, the kaisers are going to get combo attacks like arans?

[quote=iVege]It looks like a mix between a gun, knuckle and cannon .-.

oh and a dragon

@Edit: oh, you mean the vepar eagle? i just noticed it[/quote]

Dragon gunner dragon fighter

ya they better than our 3rd job [dragon knights] which was the only job
for warriors that was based on dragon attacks and buffs

also our 4th job [dark knights] which is also based on darkness not really...
only dark impale - which can 1 hit...
beholden buff with multiple purposes
the rest of our stuff is...bleh....

dragon warriors whole class is based on dragons...so of-course they will have more dragon skills
but yet demon slayers are based on darkness same concept but the big idea...is...
we are dark dragon warriors dragon skills and dark skills >:B with alot of HP

and theres like a dragon on one arm and gun in the other...apparently dragon fighter gunner
but then agian the dragon on her arm is like a cannon

[quote=iChosenDream]Wait what they have guns?[/quote]

It looks like a mix between a gun, knuckle and cannon .-.

oh and a dragon

@Edit: oh, you mean the vepar eagle? i just noticed it

[quote=iVege]D$!@W%@3598M35%^$325C1$!# DUUUUUHHHHHHHHH.

His point is, DS > DrKs in darkness and Kaiser > Drks/DKs in dragons.

Funny thing is that they both have wings LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. Funnier is that Kaiser has a skill that is called Iron Will (better than ours). It's like they're doing it on purpose (remember when they left spears and polearms out of the warrior revamp event?).

And then there's freaking Angelic [b]Buster[/b]. I guess they're saying angels > dragons/darkness as well? Let's have a look at her skills: http://i.imgur.com/qeRmh.gif.

HAHAHAH MORE [b]DRAGONS[/b]. And she has wings too.

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Somewhat related... THANK GOD Angelic Buster's animations don't suck like Kaiser's. I guess they can't do fire properly? Anyway, you can see how epic those dragons are. Especially if you compare it to ours.[/quote]
Wait what they have guns?

[quote=ThunderSSpea]and Drks to Thread poster...if you say demon slayers replace drks and dragon warriors replace dragon knights
(1) they have different skills
(2) There are hella banwagoners that just play with any new class...for a few weeks and months
(3) Do you see any demonslayers today...(phantoms annihilation classes due to skills steal...)
(4) they have different names demon slayer is a DEMON not a knight...
(5)dragon warrior well...idc ima dark knight not a Dragon knight
(6) every class gets nerfed...once they got nerfed and new classes came they went extinct
(7)dragon warriors dont use weapons such as swords or spears or polearm and and sword configuration...I believe they are pirates which is dumb.
(8) should rename them dragon gunners dragon fighters?[/quote]

D$!@W%@3598M35%^$325C1$!# DUUUUUHHHHHHHHH.

His point is, DS > DrKs in darkness and Kaiser > Drks/DKs in dragons.

Funny thing is that they both have wings LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL. Funnier is that Kaiser has a skill that is called Iron Will (better than ours). It's like they're doing it on purpose (remember when they left spears and polearms out of the warrior revamp event?).

And then there's freaking Angelic [b]Buster[/b]. I guess they're saying angels > dragons/darkness as well? Let's have a look at her skills: http://i.imgur.com/qeRmh.gif.

HAHAHAH MORE [b]DRAGONS[/b]. And she has wings too.

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Somewhat related... THANK GOD Angelic Buster's animations don't suck like Kaiser's. I guess they can't do fire properly? Anyway, you can see how epic those dragons are. Especially if you compare it to ours.

[quote=iVege]Bowmasters should totally use spears. I mean, so what if they're called bow masters?[/quote]

Trudat. And you can fire a spear from a bow. I mean, a spear's merely an oversized arrow right? Without the fletching and all that.

[quote=ruthlessrv]No offense but... this is the dumbest thread about darks o.o[/quote]

Wheres your...how you say...evidence or whatever you want to call it that this thread is dumb...
he posted his opinion of why there's no need to make dk and drks anymore...calling someone thread dumb is calling opinions dumb

[quote=Blargh89]

Demon Slayers are the real Dark Knights, they had the atmosphere going in for them when it comes to "darkness". They were totally OPed for about half a year and finally got nerfed, but they are still better than Darks in almost everything.

And just recently in KMS, they will be releasing Kaisers, a class that revolves all around Dragons, details on damage and skills are unknown to me but...

THESE GUYS ARE LITERALLY DRAGON KNIGHTS, I'm not kidding, this class actually transforms into different armoured dragons and use skills accordingly. Needless to say, they look very flashy and will cater a lot of people to play due to their appearance.

Taking this into account, is there any real reason to start out fresh with a Dragon or Dark Knight when these two classes have everything DKs don't have? [/quote]

and Drks to Thread poster...if you say demon slayers replace drks and dragon warriors replace dragon knights
(1) they have different skills
(2) There are hella banwagoners that just play with any new class...for a few weeks and months
(3) Do you see any demonslayers today...(phantoms annihilation classes due to skills steal...)
(4) they have different names demon slayer is a DEMON not a knight...
(5)dragon warrior well...idc ima dark knight not a Dragon knight
(6) every class gets nerfed...once they got nerfed and new classes came they went extinct
(7)dragon warriors dont use weapons such as swords or spears or polearm and and sword configuration...I believe they are pirates which is dumb.
(8) should rename them dragon gunners dragon fighters?

[quote=cr380rjr] Because he's the hero that MaplesStory deserves, but not the one it needs right now. And so we'll replace him, because he can take it, because he's not a hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector...the Dark Knight.[/quote]

That was beautiful +1000 thumbs up...if only you were a drk but you deserve you title job [Hero]
very wise bright knight

[quote=Pendant]You're basing the class on the name.

Nice.[/quote]

Bowmasters should totally use spears. I mean, so what if they're called bow masters?

There never was a reason to make a Dragon / Dark Knight.

So your'e trading on the dark knight way?...
Dark knights will always be Unique our Hyper Body [HB] will always be the mightiest and the finest
our dark impale will stay dark and stay strong our pole arms will swing in the air and our spears will impale
Pink bean belly we grow stronger and stronger one nation under dark knights

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tM-6w6z2KA

Demon slayers have vanished as new classes wash over them like forgotten memories...such as new classes come out on a
monthly bases..and new revamps will equip us with what we need to stay strong and to keep up with these new classes
so there will always be dark knights bow masters shadowers Bucc's and Bishops we are the Elite 5
we stand tall in mighty agree fellow Explorers one nation? Every Class has its up's and downs...As our Hero Tiger rose the flag for us we will keep it up
(Fang Blade is a fool...) In this concludes my speech.

[quote=triplexholic]As far as I'm concern Drks are one of the best class out there. Just about every party wants to have one in their party. Why? Because they have great supportive skills that no other class can take an fully use their abilities.[/quote]

They have ONE decent supportive skill. and phantom. dHB doesn't have everything HB does, but neither does HB have what dHB has.

I wouldn't add anyone just for HB, tbh.

As far as I'm concern Drks are one of the best class out there. Just about every party wants to have one in their party. Why? Because they have great supportive skills that no other class can take an fully use their abilities.

Okay, sure. DS and Kaiser have better dark and dragon skills.

Replace DrKs? Never.

I made a dragon knight back in '07 for the damage and the leveling speed they had. Once I hit 3rd job I quickly fell in love with it and stuck with it all throughout my mapling career.

Just like bowmasters, there will always be that one person that will continue to play the class, even though it is outclassed by newer ones and the buffs are replaceable by certain potted equips. That's the thing about original adventurers. We have this certain stubborn pride that none of the new classes have. But, we're damn proud of it.

You should be proud that you are the underdogs! I never get a chance to be one.

Elephants... Lot's of them.