@FrozenFlameO: Ok in Hilla expedition. The player controls the maple character. So we can say that the player is the duelist while their avatar is the monster. I don't get hurt when my character dies I'm sorry. You just pointed out the reason why Magic Cylinder doesn't even work, since it will never inflict harm to the Dragon in TS's case...
the story of the comic was based off of a time when I got magic cyllinder'ed+when damage reflect killed me in hilla. I put life points in the beginning to show that if I got magic cyllinder'ed I would have lost (died in Maple) my character is the duelist so he would be the one getting harmed from the magic cyllinder
I guess you could make a mirror force argument but magic cyllinder would make more sense because my character would have lost/died the future fusion working automatically should be the only inconsistency with the comic (although intentional) hope this resolves your guys' dispute @ aboves
[quote=Yathos]: To make everything easy for you, here are the two card.
Mirror Force: When an opponent's monster declares an attack. Destroy all Attack Position monsters your opponent controls Magic Cylinder: When an opponent's monster declares an attack Target the attacking monster; negate the attack, and if you do, inflict damage to your opponent equal to it's ATK
now lets look at Damage Reflect: Physical and Magical damage reflection for 15 seconds with 500 ~ 50000 damage.
Do you see how DR and MF both has a chance to destroy the attacker? If the TS attacked with his dragon when Hilla uses DR, obviously his dragon is dead. If DR is actually Magic Cylinder like you claim, then the player playing the game would get harm not his maple character.... Do you understand this, or do I have to simplify this even further...[/quote]
From what I can see here.. you dropped the points you had before and reworded your argument, but it's still wrong. No, the dragon would not die, because according to you DR reflects 500~50000. That's a chance of survival. Someone before me already stated Life Points are being compared to HP. Also, you didn't even mention this before, the fact that you have to mention it now proves you don't know what you're talking about, [i]again.[/i] Very amusing.
Someone stated earlier, monsters and hp have no relation, but you chose to ignore them. I'll repeat HP and Life Points are similar, because they actually change through attacks. Monsters in Yu Gi Oh do not have this quality.
@FrozenFlameO: To make everything easy for you, here are the two card.
Mirror Force: When an opponent's monster declares an attack. Destroy all Attack Position monsters your opponent controls Magic Cylinder: When an opponent's monster declares an attack Target the attacking monster; negate the attack, and if you do, inflict damage to your opponent equal to it's ATK
now lets look at Damage Reflect: Physical and Magical damage reflection for 15 seconds with 500 ~ 50000 damage.
Do you see how DR and MF both has a chance to destroy the attacker? If the TS attacked with his dragon when Hilla uses DR, obviously his dragon is dead. If DR is actually Magic Cylinder like you claim, then the player playing the game would get harm not his maple character.... Do you understand this, or do I have to simplify this even further...
[quote=Yathos]@FrozenFlameO: I'm talking about negating attacks, because that's what Magical Cylinder does...
What I'm trying to say is . Damage Reflect [b]reflects[/b] back the attack similar Mirror Force. Magic Cylinder [b]negates[/b] the attack and deals damage irectly to the opposing player's life points.
What I've concluded from using the skill description of DR and common sense, TS's five head dragon is destroyed but not the TS....[/quote]
Except, it's not similar. At all. Mirror Force isn't even a correct comparison, so why bring it up? I've already explained, but you choose to ignore. Also, Mirror force negates the attack also, so I don't know what you're trying to prove.
@FrozenFlameO: I'm talking about negating attacks, because that's what Magical Cylinder does...
What I'm trying to say is . Damage Reflect [b]reflects[/b] back the attack similar Mirror Force. Magic Cylinder [b]negates[/b] the attack and deals damage irectly to the opposing player's life points.
What I've concluded from using the skill description of DR and common sense, TS's five head dragon is destroyed but not the TS....
[quote=Yathos]@FrozenFlameO: Hilla's DR reflects damage back at the attacker for up to 50k hp so Idk how you survived a hit. Magic Cylinder does not reflect damage back at the monster. It negates the attack, and deals the damage to your life points so it is already disqualified.[/quote]
DR reflects damage depending on your own damage. Even by your numbers, you're saying Mirror Force deals damage at a set rate then, which it doesn't. DR is dependent on the force being applied to it, and so is Magic Cylinder. If DR DID reflect at 50ks some classes would be able to survive the hit, which renders your comparison with Mirror Force, moot.
I never said it reflects it to the monster, it reflects in to your life points, essential your "HP". No one was talking about negating attacks.
@FrozenFlameO: Hilla's DR reflects damage back at the attacker for up to 50k hp so Idk how you survived a hit. Magic Cylinder does not reflect damage back at the monster. It negates the attack, and deals the damage to your life points so it is already disqualified.
[quote=Yathos]Yeah, DR kills the attacker and Magic Cylinder doesn't...[/quote]
DR reflects your damage. I've survived attacking with DR on , a couple of times. That's why it's Magic Cylinder, not Mirror Force. Mirror Force kills. Period.
[quote=DarkRD]Mirror force destroys all your monsters when you atenpt an attack . magic cylinder reflect damage back to you equal to the attack points of the moster you used to attack[/quote]
Yeah, DR kills the attacker and Magic Cylinder doesn't...
[quote=Tokeb]Try this combo: http://i47.tinypic.com/2j4zv3c.jpg
Once again, you're trying way too hard.[/quote]
Lol I remember watching that on television. That mammoth would then turn into a magical arrow and shoot at the opponents lifepoints right? LOLLL xD how did you find that? xD
[quote=chrisdude1]Actually, even if you use Volme, she still has damage reflect, but then you also have it, so they cancel out if you attack each other. (Both take 1's)[/quote]
That's not true. Damage reflect is made of two different skills, damage reflect [b]and[/b] weapon+magic cancel. If you use vol d'ame once you will take the damage reflect, the party will be able to attack the boss however they will only deal 1s to it (without dying from the damage reflect). If you vol d'ame twice (with 2 phantom or with time leap), you will steal both the reflect and the cancel and you will be able to attack the boss freely.
[quote=chrisdude1]Actually, even if you use Volme, she still has damage reflect, but then you also have it, so they cancel out if you attack each other. (Both take 1's)[/quote]
are we both talking about Pouvoir Emprunte? cus I still do my damage once i take it along with my powerguard-like boost
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screw all that just summon exodia .
Oh wait..... I thought we stop caring for Yu-Gi-Oh ever since we got out of elementary school, guess I was wrong.
i like beyblades a lot, specially the dragon.
@FrozenFlameO:
Ok in Hilla expedition. The player controls the maple character. So we can say that the player is the duelist while their avatar is the monster. I don't get hurt when my character dies I'm sorry. You just pointed out the reason why Magic Cylinder doesn't even work, since it will never inflict harm to the Dragon in TS's case...
the story of the comic was based off of a time when I got magic cyllinder'ed+when damage reflect killed me in hilla.
I put life points in the beginning to show that if I got magic cyllinder'ed I would have lost (died in Maple)
my character is the duelist so he would be the one getting harmed from the magic cyllinder
I guess you could make a mirror force argument but magic cyllinder would make more sense because my character would have lost/died
the future fusion working automatically should be the only inconsistency with the comic (although intentional)
hope this resolves your guys' dispute @ aboves
[quote=Yathos]:
To make everything easy for you, here are the two card.
Mirror Force: When an opponent's monster declares an attack. Destroy all Attack Position monsters your opponent controls
Magic Cylinder: When an opponent's monster declares an attack Target the attacking monster; negate the attack, and if you do, inflict damage to your opponent equal to it's ATK
now lets look at
Damage Reflect: Physical and Magical damage reflection for 15 seconds with 500 ~ 50000 damage.
Do you see how DR and MF both has a chance to destroy the attacker? If the TS attacked with his dragon when Hilla uses DR, obviously his dragon is dead.
If DR is actually Magic Cylinder like you claim, then the player playing the game would get harm not his maple character.... Do you understand this, or do I have to simplify this even further...[/quote]
From what I can see here.. you dropped the points you had before and reworded your argument, but it's still wrong. No, the dragon would not die, because according to you DR reflects 500~50000. That's a chance of survival. Someone before me already stated Life Points are being compared to HP. Also, you didn't even mention this before, the fact that you have to mention it now proves you don't know what you're talking about, [i]again.[/i] Very amusing.
Someone stated earlier, monsters and hp have no relation, but you chose to ignore them. I'll repeat HP and Life Points are similar, because they actually change through attacks. Monsters in Yu Gi Oh do not have this quality.
@FrozenFlameO:
To make everything easy for you, here are the two card.
Mirror Force: When an opponent's monster declares an attack. Destroy all Attack Position monsters your opponent controls
Magic Cylinder: When an opponent's monster declares an attack Target the attacking monster; negate the attack, and if you do, inflict damage to your opponent equal to it's ATK
now lets look at
Damage Reflect: Physical and Magical damage reflection for 15 seconds with 500 ~ 50000 damage.
Do you see how DR and MF both has a chance to destroy the attacker? If the TS attacked with his dragon when Hilla uses DR, obviously his dragon is dead.
If DR is actually Magic Cylinder like you claim, then the player playing the game would get harm not his maple character.... Do you understand this, or do I have to simplify this even further...
[quote=Yathos]@FrozenFlameO: I'm talking about negating attacks, because that's what Magical Cylinder does...
What I'm trying to say is .
Damage Reflect [b]reflects[/b] back the attack similar Mirror Force.
Magic Cylinder [b]negates[/b] the attack and deals damage irectly to the opposing player's life points.
What I've concluded from using the skill description of DR and common sense, TS's five head dragon is destroyed but not the TS....[/quote]
Except, it's not similar. At all. Mirror Force isn't even a correct comparison, so why bring it up? I've already explained, but you choose to ignore. Also, Mirror force negates the attack also, so I don't know what you're trying to prove.
@FrozenFlameO: I'm talking about negating attacks, because that's what Magical Cylinder does...
What I'm trying to say is .
Damage Reflect [b]reflects[/b] back the attack similar Mirror Force.
Magic Cylinder [b]negates[/b] the attack and deals damage irectly to the opposing player's life points.
What I've concluded from using the skill description of DR and common sense, TS's five head dragon is destroyed but not the TS....
[quote=Yathos]@FrozenFlameO:
Hilla's DR reflects damage back at the attacker for up to 50k hp so Idk how you survived a hit.
Magic Cylinder does not reflect damage back at the monster. It negates the attack, and deals the damage to your life points so it is already disqualified.[/quote]
DR reflects damage depending on your own damage. Even by your numbers, you're saying Mirror Force deals damage at a set rate then, which it doesn't. DR is dependent on the force being applied to it, and so is Magic Cylinder. If DR DID reflect at 50ks some classes would be able to survive the hit, which renders your comparison with Mirror Force, moot.
I never said it reflects it to the monster, it reflects in to your life points, essential your "HP". No one was talking about negating attacks.
You forgot to use "Trap Card"
@FrozenFlameO:
Hilla's DR reflects damage back at the attacker for up to 50k hp so Idk how you survived a hit.
Magic Cylinder does not reflect damage back at the monster. It negates the attack, and deals the damage to your life points so it is already disqualified.
Hilla conters with the new unlimited magic cylinder.
[quote=Yathos]Yeah, DR kills the attacker and Magic Cylinder doesn't...[/quote]
DR reflects your damage. I've survived attacking with DR on , a couple of times. That's why it's Magic Cylinder, not Mirror Force. Mirror Force kills. Period.
[quote=DarkRD]Mirror force destroys all your monsters when you atenpt an attack . magic cylinder reflect damage back to you equal to the attack points of the moster you used to attack[/quote]
Yeah, DR kills the attacker and Magic Cylinder doesn't...
[quote=Tokeb]Try this combo: http://i47.tinypic.com/2j4zv3c.jpg
Once again, you're trying way too hard.[/quote]
Lol I remember watching that on television. That mammoth would then turn into a magical arrow and shoot at the opponents lifepoints right? LOLLL xD
how did you find that? xD
[quote=Only12]The virginity is strong with this one.[/quote]
sad but true
my left hand disagrees tho
The virginity is strong with this one.
[quote=BroaCNTB]I dont get it... [/quote]
If he hits the enemy, the damege will double and hit him back because he had damege reflect
Dat insane broken combo.
You didnt wait 3 turns and future fusion i banned now
this reminds me of waboku
Enchanted javelin.
I'm so glad tsukuyomi is unbanned. That card is so cool. But that's so dumb mirror force is 2, swords and magic cylinder are 3 now >:[
Future fusion is banned. You're a tad late, also it takes two turns for it to come, hence the [b]future[/b] in Future fusion.
[quote=SnowCreeper]That's against the rules, isn't it?[/quote]
screw the rules, he has no hair
[quote=ThousandNen]Future Fusion is banned, hence making FGD nearly dead. Chaos Dragons is now a control deck as oppose to big beaters.[/quote]
Should have used Poly instead.
[quote=RazorNion]Magic Cylinder.[/quote]
Solemn Judgement~.
Future Fusion is banned, hence making FGD nearly dead. Chaos Dragons is now a control deck as oppose to big beaters.
OMFB HAHAHA THIS HERE IS TOTAL WIN! XDDD; I totally get it.
I hate when bosses use that insta-kill on my part...
i love beyblades
mirror force . .
*facepalm* LMAO!
Solemn Judgement...?
Can't remember my yugioh cards anymore.
[Expert]: I active Royal Decree!
[quote=RazorNion]Magic Cylinder.[/quote]
Learn your Yugioh, This is totally Mirror Force.
[quote=chrisdude1]Actually, even if you use Volme, she still has damage reflect, but then you also have it, so they cancel out if you attack each other. (Both take 1's)[/quote]
That's not true.
Damage reflect is made of two different skills, damage reflect [b]and[/b] weapon+magic cancel. If you use vol d'ame once you will take the damage reflect, the party will be able to attack the boss however they will only deal 1s to it (without dying from the damage reflect).
If you vol d'ame twice (with 2 phantom or with time leap), you will steal both the reflect and the cancel and you will be able to attack the boss freely.
you can replace w/ dragon's mirror if you're gonna update o.o
about the future fusion banning, this was made before the banlist, thus the reason for me having my previous nx outfit in the comic
[quote=chrisdude1]Actually, even if you use Volme, she still has damage reflect, but then you also have it, so they cancel out if you attack each other. (Both take 1's)[/quote]
are we both talking about Pouvoir Emprunte? cus I still do my damage once i take it along with my powerguard-like boost
hahaahahahaha! nice, made me lol.
Cunning Black Strategist is actually Hilla
dat mirror force, ffff-
made me lol
[quote=Deafman]If you watch you qi oh, you would get it.
Anything couldn't stop damage reflect.[/quote]
phantom can take it away :x
Dammed telleport mastery always getting me killed
Magic Cylinder.
Pfft. You have to wait 2 turns before FHD comes out. And besides, Future Fusion is banned. zomg punk ass nub.
Hate damage reflect >.< the trolliest thing ever