It unites those of similar beliefs and divides them among other communities. Never did like religions, when you have too many people believing the same thing, bad things happen. Think Crusades, WW2 etc.
[quote=arlongpark]90% of all wars? care to name a few? besides all religion is supposed to teach people to be good people its just those idiots that give religious folks a bad rep.[/quote]
You're joking right? All wars in India is based on religion.
[quote=AustinCoop]I'm sorry I dont believe in something that has caused 90% of all wars. You are a fool.[/quote]
The religion wasn't the causer of it -.- The people in it did... Blame them not the religion you fool
Besides sadly the religion was probably used as a scapegoat to start the war |:
@iLoveBuckets: Is it any easier believing nothing created you? They're had to be something higher up in my opinion.. Something we won't fully understand till we see it for ourselves
Same religions unite, I guess. The Puritans did much better at Plymouth/Mass. Bay than the people down wherever they were (South? idk ) in colonial times.
i love how everyone says "christians murdered millions in the name of god" yes its probably true that they did although i dont know for sure cuz i know absolutely nothing about history XD. although thats probably true millions of christians have also died cuz of their belief (more than 100million in the 20th century alone as i was told). and the thing you said about donating money every week i think you mean offering? im pretty sure the church uses it to pay like electricity and whatnot but its a choice to give it. oh lemme tell you something about the churches in parts of africa. when the people go up to give their offering they dance and celebrate despite being poor. theyre happy to give money to the church. and in that book "to kill a mockingbird" i dont if youve read it but in the black church the collected money and they give the collected money to whoever needs it the most. so what im trying to say is yea there are churches that are screwed up but you cant generalize and say that all of em are
[quote=AustinCoop]The world holds two classes of men - intelligent men without religion, and religious men without intelligence.[/quote]
And by assuming that everyone who doesn't view things as you do must be wrong, you're just as closed-minded as the people you claim to be more intelligent than. Having a truly open mind means accepting the fact that you could possibly be wrong about everything you believe in, and that other people's viewpoints can be just as valid as yours.
[quote=arlongpark]ok i didnt really understand that but you cant generalize billions of people like that. and i dont see how religion encourages killing when one of the ten commandments is thou shall not kill and im sure other religions have this rule too. and plenty of charities are run by christians so i dont see how religion is making the world worse.[/quote]
Murdering millions in the name of Christianity is not wrong? Using religion as a scape goat to further your goals only proves why this "Organized Religion" is a curse upon mankind. Also, note that Religion =/= Organized Religion. Also, so what if churches run charities? It doesn't change the fact that they pressure you to "donate" money every weekend to them.
[quote=Logic]Organized Religion is the worst evil ever created by man, worse than war. It provokes us to kill each other in the name of a figment of our imagination. We live and die in the name of our "salvation" because as humans, we are afraid of our own mortality. Plus Organized religion does nothing but corrupt people, especially the hundreds of priests and other ordained members of the church that break those rules that they were put in place to enforce (molestation). Historically, Religion has done nothing but ruin the lives of the average citizens. From the crusades, to the Old Regime, and modern day Islamic radicals; Religion has done nothing but make this world worse.
Edit : Also to note the fallacious arguments used by religious officials, and in those texts accompanying them. Christianity is the worst offender of them all.[/quote]
ok i didnt really understand that but you cant generalize billions of people like that. and i dont see how religion encourages killing when one of the ten commandments is thou shall not kill and im sure other religions have this rule too. and plenty of charities are run by christians so i dont see how religion is making the world worse.
Organized Religion is the worst evil ever created by man, worse than war. It provokes us to kill each other in the name of a figment of our imagination. We live and die in the name of our "salvation" because as humans, we are afraid of our own mortality. Plus Organized religion does nothing but corrupt people, especially the hundreds of priests and other ordained members of the church that break those rules that they were put in place to enforce (molestation). Historically, Religion has done nothing but ruin the lives of the average citizens. From the crusades, to the Old Regime, and modern day Islamic radicals; Religion has done nothing but make this world worse.
Edit : Also to note the fallacious arguments used by religious officials, and in those texts accompanying them. Christianity is the worst offender of them all.
[quote=AustinCoop]Although I agree with your last statement, joking doesn't make you any more correct than any of us. Lets just face it, no matter how much we argue, nothing will be proven.[/quote]
I'm not a religious person, I do agree that in the end nothing can really be proven, but I'd warn you to be careful with semantics.
Religion itself is not the cause of war, the misinterpretation and fallacious application of it is usually the culprit. Also, remember that religion and Christianity aren't interchangeable, a lot of the bloodshed with roots tying to religion has been due to the misuse of Christianity.
edit: That wasn't meant directly at you, it's just an observation I've seen that most people do. Sorry.
[quote=arlongpark]90% of all wars? care to name a few? besides all religion is supposed to teach people to be good people its just those idiots that give religious folks a bad rep.[/quote]
The crusades World War I World War II The French revolution The War on Terror The 100 Years War Are you satisfied?
[quote=ulti25]You must have made your mind so open that your brain fell off.
Religion unites those who have the same belief. In that very same way, it divides them from people with differing beliefs.[/quote]
Although I agree with your last statement, joking doesn't make you any more correct than any of us. Lets just face it, no matter how much we argue, nothing will be proven.
90% of all wars? care to name a few? besides all religion is supposed to teach people to be good people its just those idiots that give religious folks a bad rep.
[quote=AustinCoop]Thats what the average believer says. Your the ignorant one. My mind is open to all kinds of reasons of why we are here. Yours sounds like its only open to one.[/quote]
You must have made your mind so open that your brain fell off.
Religion unites those who have the same belief. In that very same way, it divides them from people with differing beliefs.
[quote=inubcakex3]my name is austincoop and i think i'm better than everyone else because of the lack of religion in my life. also i don't know how to differentiate between 'your' and 'you're'.[/quote]
I'm sorry I dont believe in something that has caused 90% of all wars. You are a fool.
Thats what the average believer says. Your the ignorant one. My mind is open to all kinds of reasons of why we are here. Yours sounds like its only open to one.
It unites people within their respective religions. But religion in general divides, because each one claims to be the one true religion. Believers are completely unmoving in that sense. And when you believe that they're right and the rest of the world is wrong, you end up pushing everyone else away, no matter how hard you try to show them the light.
And all that inevitably leads to war. Because human beings are too proud to be wrong.
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[quote=DualPirate]Examples:
Jews vs. Everyone else.
Christian vs. Muslim
Communist vs Christian[/quote]
You're pretty ignorant unless the persecution of Christians in Muslim countries is a Zionist conspiracy and the Coptic Church bombing to top it off.
It unites those of similar beliefs and divides them among other communities. Never did like religions, when you have too many people believing the same thing, bad things happen. Think Crusades, WW2 etc.
It's not the religion that causes the war.
It's the people.
[quote=arlongpark]90% of all wars? care to name a few? besides all religion is supposed to teach people to be good people its just those idiots that give religious folks a bad rep.[/quote]
You're joking right?
All wars in India is based on religion.
Unites people within the religion.
@ilovebuckets: So everything just started from nothing? That's easier to believe o.o?
[quote=AustinCoop]I'm sorry I dont believe in something that has caused 90% of all wars. You are a fool.[/quote]
The religion wasn't the causer of it -.- The people in it did... Blame them not the religion you fool
Besides sadly the religion was probably used as a scapegoat to start the war |:
@iLoveBuckets: Is it any easier believing nothing created you? They're had to be something higher up in my opinion.. Something we won't fully understand till we see it for ourselves
Same religions unite, I guess. The Puritans did much better at Plymouth/Mass. Bay than the people down wherever they were (South? idk ) in colonial times.
Both.
Heck, isn't everything about "differences" dividing the whole world?
i love how everyone says "christians murdered millions in the name of god" yes its probably true that they did although i dont know for sure cuz i know absolutely nothing about history XD. although thats probably true millions of christians have also died cuz of their belief (more than 100million in the 20th century alone as i was told). and the thing you said about donating money every week i think you mean offering? im pretty sure the church uses it to pay like electricity and whatnot but its a choice to give it. oh lemme tell you something about the churches in parts of africa. when the people go up to give their offering they dance and celebrate despite being poor. theyre happy to give money to the church. and in that book "to kill a mockingbird" i dont if youve read it but in the black church the collected money and they give the collected money to whoever needs it the most. so what im trying to say is yea there are churches that are screwed up but you cant generalize and say that all of em are
[quote=AustinCoop]The world holds two classes of men - intelligent men without religion, and religious men without intelligence.[/quote]
And by assuming that everyone who doesn't view things as you do must be wrong, you're just as closed-minded as the people you claim to be more intelligent than. Having a truly open mind means accepting the fact that you could possibly be wrong about everything you believe in, and that other people's viewpoints can be just as valid as yours.
So to defend that one guy, yes, that's ignorant.
[quote=arlongpark]ok i didnt really understand that but you cant generalize billions of people like that. and i dont see how religion encourages killing when one of the ten commandments is thou shall not kill and im sure other religions have this rule too. and plenty of charities are run by christians so i dont see how religion is making the world worse.[/quote]
Lrn2History:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition
Murdering millions in the name of Christianity is not wrong? Using religion as a scape goat to further your goals only proves why this "Organized Religion" is a curse upon mankind. Also, note that Religion =/= Organized Religion. Also, so what if churches run charities? It doesn't change the fact that they pressure you to "donate" money every weekend to them.
[quote=Logic]Organized Religion is the worst evil ever created by man, worse than war. It provokes us to kill each other in the name of a figment of our imagination. We live and die in the name of our "salvation" because as humans, we are afraid of our own mortality. Plus Organized religion does nothing but corrupt people, especially the hundreds of priests and other ordained members of the church that break those rules that they were put in place to enforce (molestation). Historically, Religion has done nothing but ruin the lives of the average citizens. From the crusades, to the Old Regime, and modern day Islamic radicals; Religion has done nothing but make this world worse.
Edit : Also to note the fallacious arguments used by religious officials, and in those texts accompanying them. Christianity is the worst offender of them all.[/quote]
ok i didnt really understand that but you cant generalize billions of people like that. and i dont see how religion encourages killing when one of the ten commandments is thou shall not kill and im sure other religions have this rule too. and plenty of charities are run by christians so i dont see how religion is making the world worse.
[quote=Applesnacks]Dont forget smaller things such as the Inquisition, the Armenian Genocide and the Protestant Reformation[/quote]
Korean War, Vietnam war, the pillaging and imperialism of underdeveloped nations
Just to name a few.
[quote=AustinCoop]The crusades
World War I
World War II
The French revolution
The War on Terror
The 100 Years War
Are you satisfied?[/quote]
Dont forget smaller things such as the Inquisition, the Armenian Genocide and the Protestant Reformation
Organized Religion is the worst evil ever created by man, worse than war. It provokes us to kill each other in the name of a figment of our imagination. We live and die in the name of our "salvation" because as humans, we are afraid of our own mortality. Plus Organized religion does nothing but corrupt people, especially the hundreds of priests and other ordained members of the church that break those rules that they were put in place to enforce (molestation). Historically, Religion has done nothing but ruin the lives of the average citizens. From the crusades, to the Old Regime, and modern day Islamic radicals; Religion has done nothing but make this world worse.
Edit : Also to note the fallacious arguments used by religious officials, and in those texts accompanying them. Christianity is the worst offender of them all.
[quote=AustinCoop]Although I agree with your last statement, joking doesn't make you any more correct than any of us. Lets just face it, no matter how much we argue, nothing will be proven.[/quote]
I'm not a religious person, I do agree that in the end nothing can really be proven, but I'd warn you to be careful with semantics.
Religion itself is not the cause of war, the misinterpretation and fallacious application of it is usually the culprit.
Also, remember that religion and Christianity aren't interchangeable, a lot of the bloodshed with roots tying to religion has been due to the misuse of Christianity.
edit:
That wasn't meant directly at you, it's just an observation I've seen that most people do. Sorry.
both, you can't deny one option
[quote=arlongpark]90% of all wars? care to name a few? besides all religion is supposed to teach people to be good people its just those idiots that give religious folks a bad rep.[/quote]
The crusades
World War I
World War II
The French revolution
The War on Terror
The 100 Years War
Are you satisfied?
Both, obviously.
[quote=ulti25]You must have made your mind so open that your brain fell off.
Religion unites those who have the same belief.
In that very same way, it divides them from people with differing beliefs.[/quote]
Although I agree with your last statement, joking doesn't make you any more correct than any of us. Lets just face it, no matter how much we argue, nothing will be proven.
90% of all wars? care to name a few? besides all religion is supposed to teach people to be good people its just those idiots that give religious folks a bad rep.
[quote=AustinCoop]Thats what the average believer says. Your the ignorant one. My mind is open to all kinds of reasons of why we are here. Yours sounds like its only open to one.[/quote]
You must have made your mind so open that your brain fell off.
Religion unites those who have the same belief.
In that very same way, it divides them from people with differing beliefs.
[quote=inubcakex3]my name is austincoop and i think i'm better than everyone else because of the lack of religion in my life. also i don't know how to differentiate between 'your' and 'you're'.[/quote]
I'm sorry I dont believe in something that has caused 90% of all wars. You are a fool.
[quote=SnailTrail]that's ignorant[/quote]
Thats what the average believer says. Your the ignorant one. My mind is open to all kinds of reasons of why we are here. Yours sounds like its only open to one.
[quote=AustinCoop]The world holds two classes of men - intelligent men without religion, and religious men without intelligence.[/quote]
that's ignorant
The world holds two classes of men - intelligent men without religion, and religious men without intelligence.
Examples:
Jews vs. Everyone else.
Christian vs. Muslim
Communist vs Christian
It unites people within their respective religions. But religion in general divides, because each one claims to be the one true religion. Believers are completely unmoving in that sense. And when you believe that they're right and the rest of the world is wrong, you end up pushing everyone else away, no matter how hard you try to show them the light.
And all that inevitably leads to war. Because human beings are too proud to be wrong.
Both. Example - Christians unite with Christians to attack (divide with) Muslims.