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Highly doubt it'll fail. It retains literally the exact same themes from the original Maplestory, and improves on the combat, bossing, customization, and class systems in every way.

To those who think MS 2 is gonna fail that's your opinion but please don't take it out on those of us that are excited,this game is not for you so don't pretend like it needs you to succeed

If done right MS2 should be a very good game. The graphics should not be the sole reason to say it will fail. What matters is the gameplay, and so far from the small teasers we seen the gameplay is actually pretty nice What should really make this game a success is the user generated content. This is going be like what cubeworld should have been. A real sandbox mmorpg.

Honestly, I look forward to Maplestory 2, I hope it succeeds,and I hope it has some of those old Maplestory aspects to it, boss-wise, at least.

All the flak that the game is getting when it's not even released yet doesn't make sense, and just comparing the two maplestory games is ludicrous, especially when one hasn't been given the chance to get up on its feet properly to learn how to walk. I say we judge the game on its merits, on how the game will play for the individual person, which means actually giving the game a go, give the game 40 levels before you stamp on a "Failure" print on it. Lastly, the 2-D aspect of the original Maplestory is not a reason to hate on MS2, it's not like the game is trying to be a direct sequel or anything, heaven forbid there be an actual final battle in MS that would tie into giving us a reason to tie the two together.

In short, Judge something by how it plays out, not by how it looks, you'll either be really surprised by what you find, or you won't, and you'll continue to see the game as how you painted it to be on this day.

I doubt it'll fail. Have you actually seen the gameplay videos and stuff? It actually looks really fun. I will definitely be playing it.

I dunno I kind of feel like they are kind of making maplestory 2 like dragon nest

I think it will have quite a few players and do well just no where near as good as maplestory 1 did.
It's really sickening hearing little fanboys on the maplestory 2 sucks banwagon, If you guys wanna spend
you're life savings on cubes, nx and more enjoy.
Also, there was a big chunk of players who never even touched maplestory because it was a 2d side scroller.

[quote=dashx4]If it wasn't named maplestory 2 everyone would say it's nothing more than a minecraft clone which it is.[/quote]

How is it a minecraft clone? Have you even played minecraft or just spouting nonsense because it has voxel graphics? Minecraft is not an mmorpg. That right there shows you that it is not a minecraft clone. MS2 isn't just about building stuff. It's an mmorpg it will have bossing,grinding, and all that jazz just like MS has. You just see the graphics and automatically think that it's minecraft. Quit being so ignorant.

[quote=dashx4]If it wasn't named maplestory 2 everyone would say it's nothing more than a minecraft clone which it is.[/quote]

Minecraft clone? That's a funny joke.
If you compare the gameplay of the two games you would know they are barely anything alike,
The only similarity these two game have is that they have a cube terrain, that's all.

If it wasn't named maplestory 2 everyone would say it's nothing more than a minecraft clone which it is.

[quote=Omniscient1]Mincraft is not an mmorpg. People need to learn the difference of the type of games you be playing.[/quote]

especially when they think minecraft is popular korea, enough so to copy.

[quote=dashx4]http://www.siliconera.com/2014/07/05/maplestory-2s-minecraft-style-world-will-allow-user-created-content/

It's minecraft with a cash shop. Yea, that's definitely going to work considering MS1's current state in pay2win.

pay-to-play2win[/quote]

Mincraft is not an mmorpg. People need to learn the difference of the type of games you be playing.

[quote=inuyou]Maplestory 2 will fail sorry

I KNOW you can't see that because of the (very small amount of) bandwagon hype blinding your little child eyes. but please, even singlular classes on MS1 are getting WAY more hype than MS2. People play MS because it's just that, it's maplestory it's been around for YEARS for a reason

If they're making a WoW version of MS it will 11/10 120% [i][b]FAIL[/b][/i] just watch and wait, if it even makes it to north america release lmfao

People play maplestory because its 2D get over it[/quote]

People didn't just play maplestory just because it was 2D, it was because it was unique, like @taqli said.
MS2 definitely does look unique and you say its gonna fail because it doesn't interest [i]you[/i].

The reason why it hasn't received that much attention is because it has not been advertised NA yet, just putting the game's name on GMS website would attract a lot attention to it.

Not also that but you act like only people who played the original maplestory would play this game when that is not the case.
I've seen a lot of comments of people who haven't played MS who want to try this game out; MS2 is definitely going to attract more than just it's predecessor's audience.

http://www.siliconera.com/2014/07/05/maplestory-2s-minecraft-style-world-will-allow-user-created-content/

It's minecraft with a cash shop. Yea, that's definitely going to work considering MS1's current state in pay2win.

pay-to-play2win

Maplestory 2 will fail sorry

I KNOW you can't see that because of the (very small amount of) bandwagon hype blinding your little child eyes. but please, even singlular classes on MS1 are getting WAY more hype than MS2. People play MS because it's just that, it's maplestory it's been around for YEARS for a reason

If they're making a WoW version of MS it will 11/10 120% [i][b]FAIL[/b][/i] just watch and wait, if it even makes it to north america release lmfao

People play maplestory because its 2D get over it

@inuyou:
I don't see MS2 dying anytime soon thanks to the large amount of customization and ability to make your own content its going to offer us. MS will probably die first if anything, unless they bring something innovative to the game and lower it's pay2win asepct they're going to come to a halt, and it doesn't help that the fact that there will probably be people ditching the game for MS2 when it comes out.

tl;dr MS will die first instead if it doesn't get better
ms2 will also probably aid the death of ms.

@Vinje: but ultimately and swiftly will unfortunately for the weeaboos

[quote=inuyou]tl;dr maplestory 2 will fail [/quote]

you certainly have the attention span of a 6 year old.
Ms2 ain't gonna fail so easily

tl;dr maplestory 2 will fail

@inuyou:
Did you honestly pull out the "this game is for 6 year olds" card out of your sleeve? Seriously?
This statement honestly doesn't mean anything, look at pokemon more adults play that than the kid audience that it tries to draw in.
Why? Because it's fun, just because a game looks childish doesn't mean It can't be fun despite what others might say.

@Vinje: it's not really an insult as much as it's shtty and there's better games to pay and play, even if you do want cartoony ass 3d chibi chars like you're playing a game for 6 year olds

@inuyou:
Your insult makes little sense and is unnecessarily long, try harder please.

@Vinje: yeah but atleast this MS1 chibi is 2D and not rubbery bubbley ugly weird ass pilsbury doughboy cartoons with curved edged swords you couldn't slice butter with

[quote=inuyou]IKR lol. Who the hell wants to play a terrible 3d pc game with disfigured characters when theres better ones out there already. I play maplestory because of its classic style of game play. it'll probably be just as pay to win too lmao[/quote]

Lol, Somebody doesn't understand the concept of chibi characters.
But going by your logic maplestory would also have disfigured characters considering the characters body structure in MS2 follows MS body structure.

IKR lol. Who the hell wants to play a terrible 3d pc game with disfigured characters when theres better ones out there already. I play maplestory because of its classic style of game play. it'll probably be just as pay to win too lmao

[quote=john7420]Nexon estimates at least a release by 2014 so GMS will probably get it 2015[/quote]

beta comes out in korea in 2014. Whenever it gets out for a full release. It will be worldwide. Nexon already stated after beta ends and they are okay to release it. it will be world wide.

http://www.siliconera.com/2014/05/23/yes-maplestory-2-will-released-worldwide/

Meh. If people see the game is fun theyl play it. I dont see why so many people are already trying to judge this game as a fail when they havent seen any indepthness about the system.

Personally I'd prefer Nexon focus on fixing the problems with the current game rather than starting something new entirely, but I would be satisfied as long as MS1 doesn't get hit too hard. I suppose I'm one of those players that have become attached to the game and cannot bring myself to move onto something new despite the problems that currently plague MS.

Nexon KR have better games to worry about.

kDNF is far from dead. They just had a televised pvp tournament along with cyphers a few months ago and it's still at the top 10 mmo while MS is like way down.

I can't handle 2d lag, 3d would probably kill me ...
But anyways, since it's pretty clear that MS is dying, MS2 is basically just the fresh start of MapleStory. It'll sort of be like old Maplestory, yet new... If that makes any sense. Although, when MapleStory 2 fails (this is unavoidable, no matter how popular it is now), all the MS2 players will come crawling back to MS, causing the servers to overflow.
Looking forward to that, aren't you?

I have high hopes for MS2.
[quote=GreatBolshy]it'll make maplestory even more dead than before. some people will migrate to maplestory 2, maplestory 1 will lose alot of those players for 2, 2 won't succeed and it'll close and 1 will be extremely dead causing server degrades and if the maplestory 2 people come back then the servers will be terrible and overflooded[/quote]
MapleStory is dying, it's not dead. Big difference. A dead MMO would be something like Trickster, ROSE Online, Ragnarok Online, and DFO. Most of those MMOs I listed shut down not long ago.

Food for thought: 2d MapleStory lag in 3d. Good luck anyone who doesn't have access to IBM super computers.

The fact that there is only 5 pages of chat here tells me Nexon NEEDS ms 2. If MS 1 was still active as in the old days, this thread would have 100+ pages.

For the people arguing that MS2 will fail because of the lack of appeal for Original MS players:
What others are trying to argue is that MS2's main objective is [b][/b]NOT[b][/b] to bring in MS1 players.
Nexon is trying to make a game for an entirely different demo (target consumers).
So no; MS1 won't be hit affected too much by the release of MS2 although admittedly it will be quiet on MS1 servers when it releases from everyone trying the new game.
The 2 most apparent reasons I can see that they would use the name of Maplestory to do this new game would be:
1. They think the name has influence. Over the years a LOT of people have played MS and its well known to the general gamer population
2. MS already has its own story (if you can call it that) and job/class system in place that they know people enjoy. It saves a lot of resources from having to make all that stuff and balance it again, plus it gives player a sense of familiarity.

To the Mabinogi players: NO it doesn't sound like what they're making is the same thing. The only similarity here that I can see would be the 3D component. Mabinogi is a complex storytelling game for people who really want to delve into a hardcore RPG. Maplestory is more for casuals. thus the Maplestory theme.

So in short:
Maplestory 2 is [b][/b]NOT[b][/b] and remake of Maplestory 1.

The reason for the Maplestory theme is to easily promote their game and have an existing story and job/class system to work off of.

Demographically speaking, Maplestory 2 is aimed at a different type of players than those of the original Maplestory (although thats not to say that some people won't enjoy Maplestory 2 more and make the switch over)

And finally, if you really enjoy Maplestory just the way it is, [b][/b]then just keep playing it.[b][/b] No one is forcing you to play the new game and the original isn't going anywhere.

The true is that probably when GMS2 comes out will kill GMS... that is alrdy slowly dying

We play because we can and it's free.

playstation 4 please.

Nexon is on the Highway to hell

Na, it'll be a huge hit and knock ms1 out of the water. Ms1 is a dead game as it is.

honestly, we need more 2d mmo's.

Nexon is just wasting time, We already have mabinogi, why do we need another 3D game? On that same line, I had a lot of cool names on Mabinogi and they made it only playable in te US, for nexon sake!

[quote=win4fun]kms is realesing ms2 not gms ,gms is runned by wizet and kms is runned by another company same for ems and jms (correct me if im wrong) this would mean if gms would want to carry over ms2 it would mean they would need a diffrent team running ms2 which would increase the total staff which would lead to a higher staff payment which would mean less money and thats if ms2 is succesful. What gms might do is wait a while to see if its gunna go somewhere and even then it would be risky. And even if it is succesful it could go both ways in terms of maples population so I would bet on either side well have to wait and see.[/quote]

Same Companies, different branches. Nexon is a Korea game publisher and Nexon America branches from them. Same with EU and JMS. The other locations available such as CMS are through other publishers. Wizet was the development team in charge of, well, developing Maple Story and due to its success they merged the team wtih the parent company so they can focus on it more. Nexon had another development team a bit ago new to Vancouver but do to the economy here in the US, they had to shut it down and that is why some of the games were canceled or sold off. Anyways, MS2 will NOT affect money, in fact, it will probably bring them more revenue given the success of the CS system in MS. MS is also only one of their games. They also get good funding from other games they have published. Especially Nexon KR which has a much larger demographic than we do.

kms is realesing ms2 not gms ,gms is runned by wizet and kms is runned by another company same for ems and jms (correct me if im wrong) this would mean if gms would want to carry over ms2 it would mean they would need a diffrent team running ms2 which would increase the total staff which would lead to a higher staff payment which would mean less money and thats if ms2 is succesful. What gms might do is wait a while to see if its gunna go somewhere and even then it would be risky. And even if it is succesful it could go both ways in terms of maples population so I would bet on either side well have to wait and see.

[quote=GreatBolshy]it'll make maplestory even more dead than before. some people will migrate to maplestory 2, maplestory 1 will lose alot of those players for 2, 2 won't succeed and it'll close and 1 will be extremely dead causing server degrades and if the maplestory 2 people come back then the servers will be terrible and overflooded[/quote]

I very much doubt that. Most vets and dedicated players will just go back to MS after a little while. They will play it for a little while but ultimately they will move back to reg maple because they are already experienced and especially if they are also funded. GMS has different demographics than KMS and such, so MS 2 probably wont even be the same just like how GMS is different than KMS...so of course some aspects of it wont work for us.

The point is that Nexon has confirmed outright that MS2 is not a 3D remake of MS1, it shares similarities but it is an altogether different game. End of story.

2D is nothing more than an aesthetic that has nothing to do with how fun the game is. If you want to play a different 2D game, feel free to play LaTale, Wind Slayer, WonderKing, etc. Except you wouldn't want to, just because they're also 2D sidescrollers doesn't mean they aren't an absolute chore to play by comparison (hence why most all of them have shut down). There's a lot to what makes MapleStory fun to play, and 2D isn't the reason. It's the aesthetic. For anybody close-minded enough to think that they can't enjoy a game just because it isn't in 2D, feel free to keep playing MS1. MS2 isn't meant to steal users from or replace MS1. Nexon, nor anybody else, cares if you won't switch from MS1 to MS2, they don't want you to.

@Shoyz
Again, your making the same mistake as the previous user. Your not providing me features of the game itself. Yes, it
states that the setting is in a "time ago..." however, that is not a feature its just background information. Its like saying
a feature of apple pie is the table you eat it on; it clearly isn't something we, as players, are going to acknowledge since
its the pie (the game) we care about. The FAQ tells us features will come later but never states them and that
is why the link isn't much to look at in the first place.

However, like I also said: no one is going to discern MS2 because it simply defies what we players wanted when we
played MS. A 2D game.

Just from reading the comments on the first page of this post, it seems like you guys assume Maplestory 2 is designed to attract people who already play Maplestory. If that were the case, it would be similar to Maplestory, seeing as how it is so different they are clearly trying to attract a different demographic to Maplestory 2. It should have little to no impact on Maplestory, especially since it is being run by a different team

[quote=Sinknight]@DjFunky:
Lol If quitting your way of promoting your argument then that is fine by me. Toodles~[/quote]

Did you read the FAQ he linked? Previous time period, and they specify that 'some' crossovers will happen but apart from that it'll be unique. We'll see details later.

@DjFunky:
Lol If quitting your way of promoting your argument then that is fine by me. Toodles~

@Sinknight:
You just don't get it do you...
I give up -_-