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[quote=whiteforce18]@Dominion: this is amazing :O dem lines doe[/quote]

you're amazing

@oBec: not me, i cant pass 2F
[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-AXozU5hys]at 5:11[/url]

@Dominion: this is amazing :O dem lines doe

Who does Oz anymore? Kappa

[quote=NinjaOfTennis]
And gg 50 minutes. With my current resources I calculated 47 max (for a possible evan kill run), but I guess scania op LOL
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Well that was a rough guess for ungodly RNG, and anyways there are only 2 people in scania that run oz other than myself LOL come play scania
though a whopping 5 or so people are starting to run!11

@joe7890 anvils

@Dominion: aye might start running my shad LOL
And gg 50 minutes. With my current resources I calculated 47 max (for a possible evan kill run), but I guess scania op LOL

@ChickenS0up: ty

Is that 2 Ryude's sword in your invetory o.o...?

I'd never thought I'd see the day...

@NinjaOfTennis: Ah oops, I only read the top one cause I thought "oh hey, this has less delay, must be faster" and the skill descriptions didn't match up so I disbanded it. Turns out that is a separate one for the last hit

So using ChickenS0up's DPM for assassinate, it comes out to 22.28 minutes of straight damage, so probably around 27-28 minutes is reasonable.
Though it may take upward of 30, because I think the slower your skills, if you were to attack on an i-frame, the more damage you're missing out on, which is presumably why my dual blade (1.3b DPS) kill was nearly as fast as my shadower (2b DPS).

@Momijii: I think it's only impossible for a select few classes, because an absolutely perfect run (we're talking 1 min 9F, 3-6 mobbers with active kishin up to 46, and god-like RNG) could result in 50 minutes on dorothy. In fact maybe an angelic buster can even kill with 50 minutes.

@Dominion @NinjaOfTennis MC 630ms, assassinate (total) 910ms

DPM if capping:
Assassinate: 53.856b
Midnight Carnival: 122.550b

@Momijii: Pretty sure it's still possible. An assassinate capping shad can cvell in about twice the speed of an evan with decent control (and cvell isn't exactly ideal conditions)
Considering an Evan can kill Dorothy in 35-45 minutes (35 being Dorothy potatoes at beginning of fight somehow, 45 being it doesnt and you die and stuff), I'm sure a shad can kill it in 25-35 like @Dominion said.

[url=http://maplearchive.com/skill.php?book=422]Not exactly sure how this works since 2nd hit seems to be faster than the first[/url]

@Taisuke My DB run was 22:30 and shad was around 20:00, however their theoretical non-stop-attacking times are like 15 min DB and I believe 9 min shad (with midnight carnival only, meso explosion might still be useful for the first half)
@StraatLamp still w8in 4 u m9..
@NinjaOfTennis realistically.. probably 25-35 minutes? though not sure if even possible because it has so few lines, but if you could get me either the current attack delay for it or a % as to how much slower it is than capped MC then I could give an estimate
@Lecarde you must become one with the noscopes, friend

[quote=NinjaOfTennis]hm... how long do you think it would take to kill Dorothy with Assassinate only?
(i may has a shad mule )[/quote]
i think that it's impossible with just Assassinate

Congrats! Meanwhile I can't get past floor 14 lol

nice, I can't pass floor 47 because I dont have enough damage to clear the floor in time.

nice nice

hm... how long do you think it would take to kill Dorothy with Assassinate only?
(i may has a shad mule )

you're cool Frad

u best gms player #1

u make mesiz appear on invincible platforms, u hekker.
I report u

hey nice bro

Which was faster? Your db or shad