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Brb. Making 10 dual bladers in my account and transferring it over 10 times a day to do hard magnus 20 times a day, cra bosses 20 times a week, and gollux 10~30 times a day.

Jesus sometimes I feel maple players are just so lazy. I myself think Nexon has implemented plenty of the things to reduce the p2w such as Elite bosses, Reward Point System, Craftable Cubes, etc. Just grinding on a mule got me 500mil after an elite spawned, The reward points is pretty much filled with important nx items which you can for free if you just play the game, you can craft cubes now replacing the use or need of red cubes like my god some of you guys are just so oblivious as to what Nexon is doing to reduce the pay to win element of the game

I just want all equips to be tradeable within the same account. It such a hassle to have to spend money so that you can transfer equips to other characters within the same account.

Then go play a Pizza Slice. We don't care. I don't care.

Nexon is greedy and smart, look. People buy nx for mesos. Right? Whether its premium or anything else,
They want to get rich and powerful which requires mesos. Putting taxes means lesser income to maplers, thus more nx will be spent like on shops and such.
How greedy and smart, isnt it?

[quote=Harbors]I hate the fact that I have to spend real money on this game! Why can't Nexon just give me handouts! It's not fair that a business is trying to do what businesses do, they're such scumbags![/quote]

No that's stupid because this makes the game pay2win.

No one is expecting free handouts but acquiring Psoks, cubes and other important cash-related items [b]only through skill[/b] is the best way possible.

I know not many people would be open to the idea of unlocking certain worlds or content by paying but at least that isn't pay2win

The simple solution to Psok/Sok is any item that isn't trabale now (p/sokable) just make it account bound, with an option of spending nx to transfer the item to a different account via trade. This allows people to continue selling psokable items and it allows people to transfer gear throughout their accounts

I will partially agree with you, I hate psok and sok's. However I don't think they should be removed but rather the trade clauses on items should be reworked. I cannot fathom why I should have to pay real money to transfer an item within my own account, why most cash shop items are rentals/expire and its practices like this that ultimately discourage many people from spending money on this game. I am not one who is against spending in game however a lot of the cash shop consist of items that leave me not feeling like I got my moneys worth. Nexon doesn't seem to understand that building up good will among the player base encourages people to spend money ( giving free items doesn't build good will it just leads to an entitled player base, were as good business practices do). Nexon places a lot of limitations behind a pay wall, however I will give them some credit in that they have created other alternatives albeit very limited ones.

I like how some simple questions became a mini flame war.
The point is moot anyway, since we can get most of this stuff for free using the reward system every month.

@Neospod: Hmm again how do you know I play this game still lmao? Who says I did not quit for awhile and just decided to come back due to bordom or just to chat with friends? Is there a rule that you can not post on basil if you quit the game? You should tell that to all the people in chat island then that they should not be posting on basil if they quit MS. Lastly, why does it matter if Nexon "feeds you dmg" or not. The game is already broken with the high p2w. Allowing free trading and free market usage would actually help the game out more. New players, returning players, and even poor unfunded players in general would actually have access to easier gear and using the market. That's how a mmo should be like. It should not cost real money to trade gear between chars,or cost real money to trade gears with others.

@Neospod: why should that even matter -,- nexon is still getting their cash flow i think its about time they think for the players more now

[quote=Neospod]@Omniscient1: stalking really? every time i see you post in the past you always mention how this game is p2w crappy and there's better f2p games and you mention almost every time how you quitted long ago so is it wrong i have a good memory?[/quote]

Yes, knowing what I said a long time ago is a bit creepy imo. Specifically that we are not friends or even know each other. I have no clue who you are and yet you know what I said in the past? Plenty of people say they quit this game and yet you choose to remember only me? Isn't that a bit weird to you? Anyways like I said regardless if I play this game still or not does that mean I can not comment about how much this game is crap and p2w? Plenty of people on basil have quitted this game and yet still post.

[quote=Neospod]^ above didn't you say you quit months ago?
@gigantoaxe: so are you telling me nexon is going to allow people to send godly equips that will allow you to hit cap on 5+ characters and do all end game boss daily? just think about that[/quote]

So you're stalking me now? Lmao that's real pethetic but i guess a bit flattering that you like me enough to know what im doing Also who said I still play the game or who said I am not able to come back to the game? You can still discuss the game positives and flaws with out actually playing the game you derp. It's also possible to return to the game too as many players have done. So regardless if I play this game or not should not concern you.

mfw when OP said
[quote=gigantoaxe] why do shops have tax? Does Nexon use the tax they take away from our sales towards something else[/quote]

/facedesk

[quote=Eaglesmash56]You have yet to make a single valid point. Ill consider giving a thought out response once you propose one.[/quote]

My point is it should not cost real money to trade items or use the market. No other free to play game or pay to play does that besides MS. Well known games. Like I already stated even other Nexon games does not force you to pay NX to trade items between chars or to other people.

[quote=ggames]It's not to RETRADE an item, it's to do something that would normally break the rules of equipping an item.
If we didn't have scissors, you'd have to earn that tyrant cape yourself, or get from marvel, and that's it.[/quote]

OR they could make it trade-able when dropped?

[quote=Omniscient1]Mesos are worthless right now lmao.

@Eaglesmash56 Glad you agree with me that you're ignorant.[/quote]

You have yet to make a single valid point. Ill consider giving a thought out response once you propose one.

[quote=Omniscient1]Mesos are worthless right now lmao.

@Eaglesmash56 Glad you agree with me that you're ignorant.[/quote]
hence starforce

@Eaglesmash56 My option or not, im just voicing out an opinion in which a mojority of the maple community would be grateful for I obviously want to play this game but its just so frustrating! Can't you understand me?

@Neospod There are item locks that can be purchased with "Mesos" and why are you going towards the assumption of that people are going to just hack? If you take precautions you can't get hacked and im not complaining about much, im just complaining about Sok's. Anyone in their right mind would take buying Sok's for .10$ or mesos over 4$ for one

[quote=AbidingHero]without tax mesos would be worthless @@@[/quote]

Mesos are worthless right now lmao.

@Eaglesmash56 Glad you agree with me that you're ignorant.

@Omniscient1: Lmfao the ignorance is so real.

[quote=gigantoaxe]Take out the tax at least so we get 100% of what we earn </3 and yes i realize nexon is a business but making their customers pay to free trade items is just ridiculous. 4$ to re-trade an item? i mean come on at least make it like 10 cents or something more reasonable. Minimum wage is $9; you're basically giving away like 50% of what you earn in an hour to trade a freakin item >.<

**edit @Harbors how could u give me that sarcasm i sided with you on hackers ruining the society... you're mean[/quote]
without tax mesos would be worthless @@@

[quote=Eaglesmash56]Lol at all of these whiners. Tax is to reduced the inflation of mesos. Psoks are so the super godly cant just level up a few chars of the same job and do unlimited boss runs a day/week. Stop complaining, get so reward points and cash in on your free items from the Reward Shop. Long story short Nexon is a company and those who complain like this don't think about the outcomes of changes and/or are just too lazy to take advantage of the in-game handouts[/quote]

lmao at the ignorant fools that probably never played another mmo besides MS before. Every single other mmo out there p2p and f2p allow tradability free of charge or a way to make them free. Not to mention selling things in the market is free. Even other Nexon games besides MS allow free market and trading. Vindictus and Dragon Nest does not force you to pay to trade items or sell items. Only MS does bc it's still stuck in the stone age of gaming. The whole free market is out of date which is why MS2 is going to fix all this crap that Nexon is too lazy to fix in MS1. The one thing in f2p mmos should keep free is trading and markets. Everything else can be p2w but trading and markets should be free.

[quote=luckysausage]do you know why there are so few players on Maplestory? Because there is no way to sell items, permits should cost mesos. NX should be earned by playing the game. Any professional game company does this.[/quote]

YES!YES! Finally someone.....

[quote=Harbors]I hate the fact that I have to spend real money on this game! Why can't Nexon just give me handouts! It's not fair that a business is trying to do what businesses do, they're such scumbags![/quote]
do you know why there are so few players on Maplestory? Because there is no way to sell items, permits should cost mesos. NX should be earned by playing the game. Any professional game company does this.

Lol at all of these whiners. Tax is to reduced the inflation of mesos. Psoks are so the super godly cant just level up a few chars of the same job and do unlimited boss runs a day/week. Stop complaining, get so reward points and cash in on your free items from the Reward Shop. Long story short Nexon is a company and those who complain like this don't think about the outcomes of changes and/or are just too lazy to take advantage of the in-game handouts

@gigantoaxe This game is free to play, its your option to play or not... that's a legitimate fact, enough said

[quote=Neospod]Just get a dam job and stop being so lazy, if you play your cards right you will probably make $3k a month and $3k is enough to solo most end game bosses [/quote]

are you being serous right now i do make money but unlike you i have bills to pay. i want to play a "Free MMORPG" game without having to at least pay for in game transactions. i understand having to pay for shop permits, beauty coupons, etc but seriously Sok's shouldn't even exist. This particular nx item doesn't lure customers in, it drives them away

Every MMO I've ever played had some form of tax. It's the part of the economy, virtual or not.

It's not to RETRADE an item, it's to do something that would normally break the rules of equipping an item.
If we didn't have scissors, you'd have to earn that tyrant cape yourself, or get from marvel, and that's it.

[quote=Neospod]How will nexon make money then? and remember if you somehow get hacked what are you going to do then? what if you almost drop your item by accident? you will rage quit and blame nexon[/quote]

That's why you use item lock/ guard on your items

The taxes pay for road and map repairs in maple, didn't ya know?

The only thing I'd want is to have my items that are untradeable to at least be trade-able within my account with no limitations.

I just hate the fact that I need to PSoK to transfer gear to another char..

It's a money sink. Because meso bags and dropped mesos (if anyone picks them up...) are bringing mesos into the economy, something has to take them out to balance it. We'd probably steadily inflate if we didn't have tax at all

Tax is made to deflate mesos. I guess that kind of prevents the meso value to not get inflated a lot.
Just think of it as real life. We have taxes on pretty much anything.

Take out the tax at least so we get 100% of what we earn </3 and yes i realize nexon is a business but making their customers pay to free trade items is just ridiculous. 4$ to re-trade an item? i mean come on at least make it like 10 cents or something more reasonable. Minimum wage is $9; you're basically giving away like 50% of what you earn in an hour to trade a freakin item >.<

**edit @Harbors how could u give me that sarcasm i sided with you on hackers ruining the society... you're mean

I agree.
Equipping/Trading makes an item untradeable.
Nexon is greedy/Nexon is a company and wants to make money.
No clue why they have tax.
Nexon.

So they can make money, why else. You're not thinking of them as a business are you?