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[quote=Fade2BlacK]I kinda cringed at that scene, but the part that ruined the whole movie was when Spiderman used Bing/IE.[/quote]

that was some baaaaad product placement. no one uses bing.

[quote=Fiercerain]I'm going to miss Toby McGuire.. I still find it hard to believe he's almost at his 40's o_o[/quote]
i can't see tobey being old..and i agree i'm going to miss him.

@imogene: honestly i really only noticed the whole peter's dad thing being different from the film aside from a few other extremities, but i really wanted more out of that film. Sam Raimi's vision for Spider-Man is a similar to the basis of Stan Lee's vision; The idea that tragedy from hubris can shape us into becoming a better person, which i think the 2012 spiderman lacked on making it a major turn off for me. Because instead the 2012 spiderman takes a turn [i]too[/i] eerily similar; it starts to have elements similar to batman than actual [i]spiderman[/i] in which now peter parker struggles with revenge; organic & awesome? yes! but it doesn't sound like spider-man if you get what i'm saying. I [i]loved[/i] that the vision for the 2012 spiderman was to slowly build parker into a hero..it's just hard for me to cope that the movie misses one of the essential cores that makes spiderman what he is, whether in a movie,cartoon,or comic; that "great power comes with great responsibility" (that spiderman turned from a child into an adult, where he blames himself when there is no fault). Hell, that theme could've been subtle & i would be content..but no matter how many gaps i tried to connect, it wasn't enough for me to associate that deep element of spiderman with the movie. i [b]hate[/b] that i have to dislike the new spidey; they hit so many good points & it feels so right, yet they turn away from major elements that make spider-man...well, spiderman.
also: The story with Hogan was damn good.

[quote=tuffghost]crane scene? a flaw? it wouldn't be a spidey movie without stereotypical new yorkers coming together to help the web guy. they did it all three of the original movies too.

"you mess with spiderman, you mess with new york!"[/quote]

I kinda cringed at that scene, but the part that ruined the whole movie was when Spiderman used Bing/IE.

[quote=Fade2BlacK]Both films have their flaws (the crane scene), but I might have to give the slight edge to The Amazing Spiderman. Mainly because I thought Garfield's personality in his actor fits Spiderman more than Maguire and the chemistry between Spiderman and the love interest in the 2012 version is way better. I also liked the cinematography in the action scenes in the 2012 version.

Can't wait to see the Gwen Stacey death or reference + twist in the eventual sequel with Green Goblin.[/quote]

crane scene? a flaw? it wouldn't be a spidey movie without stereotypical new yorkers coming together to help the web guy. they did it all three of the original movies too.

"you mess with spiderman, you mess with new york!"

[quote=Fade2BlacK]Both films have their flaws (the crane scene), but I might have to give the slight edge to The Amazing Spiderman. Mainly because I thought Garfield's personality in his actor fits Spiderman more than Maguire and the chemistry between Spiderman and the love interest in the 2012 version is way better. I also liked the cinematography in the action scenes in the 2012 version.

Can't wait to see the Gwen Stacey death or reference + twist in the eventual sequel with Green Goblin.[/quote]

I agree the cinematography and action scenes were much better. I loved how they made Spider-Man actually fight and act like a spider this time. Using a web to figure out the location of the Lizard was really cool.

I like the amazing spiderman better.

[quote=Xuhe]The original Spiderman was a ton better, the part where Uncle Ben died over some stupid grocery store conflict, just seemed incredibly stupid to me.[/quote]

Okay, here's why I think the new way Uncle Ben dies is better.

In the old version, Uncle Ben dies because Peter enters a wresting tournament to win money for Mary Jane. The tournament owner doesn't give him his full prize money, so when the guy gets robbed, Peter lets him go, then the thief ends up killing Uncle Ben.

In the new version, Peter's motivation is that he is angry at Uncle Ben for giving him advice about responsibility when Peter's real dad is gone. Peter thinks his real dad has no responsibility because he wasn't there for him, which causes Peter to devalue his relationship with Uncle Ben, because he didn't take Uncle Ben's role as a father figure seriously. He storms out and Uncle Ben goes looking for him. He goes to a corner store, where burglaries are more likely to happen, and has a problem with the cashier. When the cashier gets robbed, Peter is like 'whatever, it's not my responsibility.' Uncle Ben happens to be there and tries to catch the thief running away and gets shot. The thief gets away and Peter learns right away just what he's done.

Unlike in the old movie, Peter doesn't suddenly turn into a do-gooder superhero. He goes after the thief because he has a personal vendetta. Even when Peter fights the Lizard, it's more about a personal vendetta for giving away the equation than to 'stop crime.' I feel like the way the new version did this is more organic and relies more on Peter's relationships with other characters and his own growth as a person.

I'm going to miss Toby McGuire.. I still find it hard to believe he's almost at his 40's o_o

Both films have their flaws (the crane scene), but I might have to give the slight edge to The Amazing Spiderman. Mainly because I thought Garfield's personality in his actor fits Spiderman more than Maguire and the chemistry between Spiderman and the love interest in the 2012 version is way better. I also liked the cinematography in the action scenes in the 2012 version.

Can't wait to see the Gwen Stacey death or reference + twist in the eventual sequel with Green Goblin.

The original Spiderman was a ton better, the part where Uncle Ben died over some stupid grocery store conflict, just seemed incredibly stupid to me.

[quote=Liam]2002, I liked it [i]because[/i] it didn't stay close to the comics; not many superhero movies should. It's like the retelling an urban legend from someone else, it gives it vigor and diversity; that I won't know what will come up giving you another reason why to love the superhero.[/quote]

There are lots of things that 2012 Spider-Man did that were different from the comics too. Especially the whole storyline about Peter's dad.

2002: An emotionless incompetent actor with funny faces full of narm and cheesiness.
2012: An emotionless incompetent actor.

pick your flavor

I'll miss James Franco, but at least Toby McGuire isn't playing Spiderman anymore. Seriously, Toby McGuire is just soo.... ugh

2002, I liked it [i]because[/i] it didn't stay close to the comics; not many superhero movies should. It's like the retelling an urban legend from someone else, it gives it vigor and diversity; that I won't know what will come up giving you another reason why to love the superhero.

[quote=imogene]Yes, it could have been prevented, and that's the whole point of the tragedy for both movies.[/quote]

The point of the tragedy is that Peter should have been responsible for Ben's death.
In 2012, Ben was responsible for his own death.

[quote=tuffghost]>first girlfriend
that would be betty brant. secretary of the daily bugle.

I didn't like 2012 spidey because there was no J jonah jameson. 2002 spidey has just the right amount of cheesiness.[/quote]

Forgot about that, looks like we're getting another reboot in 10 years.

[quote=IAmDoomsday]2012: Hipster pretty boy Peter Parker.
Wait, what?

Also, lol at Uncle Ben dying for chocolate milk.
That death could have easily been preventable.[/quote]

Yes, it could have been prevented, and that's the whole point of the tragedy for both movies.

>first girlfriend
that would be betty brant. secretary of the daily bugle.

I didn't like 2012 spidey because there was no J jonah jameson. 2002 spidey has just the right amount of cheesiness.

2012: Hipster pretty boy Peter Parker.
Wait, what?

Also, lol at Uncle Ben dying for chocolate milk.
That death could have easily been preventable.