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@kevqn omg I just read that website you linked, and it is so freaking biased against right-wing people (like most of the media). Notice how all the negative wording is in the description of right-wing. And "freedom over equality..." really? You can freaking have both.

Naw, what you did was put your feelings first and forget about whats morally right. It's your car and everyone is entitled to their opinion so if you're dealing with a crook on the loose, the last thing i'd say is mix him around your personal things. Don't treat him like **** just keep a distance at work.

And to everyone bashing, its a battle of morals. No ones right/wrong so get over the wide range of opinions. Life is life, everyone has problems, but its ones choice to want to be around someone period.

@kevqn 100$ says you wouldn't care if it was a female.

@kevqn okay, I thought so. You don't have that annoying victim mentality. For some reason, most Basilers are like, "OMG, that poor thief is so unfortunate for not getting a ride".

@kevqn: What if it was a little kid who stole a piece of candy because they didn't know better, or what if it was a former army soldier who lost an arm (little people would hire because of this) due to war; and also because the government is terrible with this kind of thing... thus, stole a piece of bread once to survive. Obviously, its still wrong, but you wouldn't (or at least shouldn't) hold it against them, and is a forgivable offence.

Of course no one would really "accidentally" go up to someone and beat them up and steal their stuff (unless they were drunk or something). But I'm not specifically talking about this kind of situation, because finding joy in someone's misery is wrong in any situation. I'm sure at one point in your life you've done something wrong, whether on purpose or by mistake, and someone didn't like you for it. I don't think you'd like them being happy when you're upset.

Let's put this in a different perspective. If Person A kills bugs, technically that makes them a murderer, but because a lot of people do it, and bugs are pests and insignificant to many, they don't really think it's a big deal. However, say Person B does think it's a big deal, because bugs are still living. So when A gets stung by bees and has an allergic reaction, B feels happy because A deserves it. Doesn't there seem to be a problem with how B feels? A deserves it so it's okay? No, it's not okay. If you were the one who got stung and had an allergic reaction, you wouldn't think it's okay for someone to be happy about it either, I'm sure.

And I'm quite curious as to why you started this topic in the first place. Please do inform me.

@renni: Well, I'm one of those people that gets joy of someone being executed if they deserve it (murder, rape and a few other things) I would never mistakenly or accidentally go up to someone, beat the hell out of them and take their belongings while they lay in the street.

@hyperfire7: I'm trying to be liked by everyone at my job not matter what (unless they completely disrespect me) because this is my career and the last thing I want is someone disliking me

@trumanb: But it really doesn't matter how poor you are, you shouldn't steal ever. If you have the athleticism to steal something and run, then you can get a job. If you are sneaky enough and smart enough to steal something without getting caught, you're smart enough to get a job. Unless you're disabled, I'm 100% confident anyone can get a job, they just don't look hard enough.

@fradddd: I have no clue what either of those mean, explain?

I just looked it up

http://idontgetpolitics.co.uk/right-left-wing

If that's what it means, I'm mostly right

I would've done the same, but would not have given an excuse as to why I won't give anymore rides for him. Just be upfront about it lol.
However, I have to disagree wholeheartedly on your reaction to him walking in the snow. Getting "great joy" out of other people's suffering is just as f--ed up as stealing. Shame on you.

I don't see a problem with not giving him a ride anymore. I think that's a good decision for you and for other people; he shouldn't be treated nicely until he has been given the proper consequences and has learned from his actions. You don't have to be a "nice person" and give him a ride; treating someone nicely who did something bad is not going to help anyone and is only going to make the world unfair and unhappy.

HOWEVER, finding joy in someone's troubles is not a healthy way of thinking. I get it, he deserves his troubles, but try and turn the picture around. If you had done something wrong, perhaps even mistakenly or accidentally, would you like people finding joy in your misery? A more escalated comparison would be a group of people feeling happy when a criminal is executed. Think about it; they're finding joy in someone's death. Regardless of who the person is, regardless of whether they deserve it, it's a mindset that will only continue to spread hatred and vengefulness. The world will never find complete peace and happiness, but we can at least try to improve it instead of making it worse.

@kevqn: Lol chill. I didn't read the "beating up part". That, on the other hand is different from just stealing. If he really as bad as he you make him out to be, then so be it, its not like I care. I was never actually trying to defend him, I was defending against your impression of a thief: especially "Doesn't matter how bad your life is.. You can't steal". Which, in my mind, is almost as biased as someone saying something like: black people are up to no good. Both of which, are absent minded and don't regard circumstances and only rely on closed-minded impressions.

@kevqn do you lean politically left or right?
I get a sense it's probably right?

@trumanb: You're retarded for trying to defend a thief. Of course I've never done anything as bad as what he's done. It's bad enough he's stealing from someone, but he's beating them up too. How can you defend that in anyway?.. I really don't get it. He steals so he has money to smoke weed, he lives in a house, not a box.

So is he stealing from you at the bus stop?

@kevqn I really like you compared to the rest of the people on this website.

@kevqn: I'm not going to lie, if anything I hate your attitude (the I'm Perfect- Never Sinned attitude) more than those who steal lol. I'm pretty sure you've done something wrong in your life, just as bad as stealing. If someone steals and has a good reason, I think that should be at least forgivable. HOWEVER, reading your comments, it seems he still steals from his other job. Is there a good reason? I don't know... but at least he treats you as a friend? (or at least someone he trusts to tell about his stealing) So, perhaps you shouldn't have such a biased attitude towards him. What I see as the problem here isn't you driving him or not, its your biased mindset.

Anyways, I can't tell you what to do. Just know that not all thieves are wicked, out there to gain self-benefit and there to get you.

@kevqn: I see. Yeah that changes things slightly. I would still confront him about it. Like I said, stealing from your workplace is extremely unethical and see how he reacts.

I guess it's not really quite your business if it's at another job, so it's up to your discretion whether you contact the movie theater about it.

@trumanb: Doesn't matter how bad your life is.. You can't steal

Its up to you whether you drive him home or not, regardless of your impression of him. Though, your impression of thieves seem over-the-top to me. I don't support stealing in anyway. However, I will at least find reasons as to why they steal. One of my coworkers, I guess; I would also consider a friend, used to steal food- not for him, but to feed his kids, while he starved. (this was before he found a job). Now, he tells me stories of his past and how happy he is to be able to find a job, etc.
Anyways, you're not "mean" by not giving him a ride, but if I were you, I would rather be nice than 'not mean'.

You were only just looking after yourself and just self conscious that 1 day it may happen to you with this guy. I would have done the same thing

Mean? Nah I dont think it's mean. You used to do him a favor and you stopped because you don't like him as a person.

And the snow thing? I would just say to him "Life sucks doesn't it".

Idk why anyone would openly admit that they steal/used to steal wtf. Thats pretty stupid.

@xfaceiess: There's no such thing as being too vicious when talking about a thief

@kevqn: I never said what he has done and continues to do isn't vicious. I just wanted to say that I think your thoughts are unnecessarily emotional. This sentence particularly stood out to me: "I know I'm not the police or god, but I have the power to make him pay for what he did in my own way".
But yeah, that's it. Take it as you will.

@xfaceiess: "unnecessarily vicious" not really, beating a person up and stealing their stuff is "unnecessarily vicious". Not giving him a ride home and thinking lowly of trash like that isn't

It's okay to not give him a ride, (infact i'd probably do the same) but your thoughts are unnecessarily vicious.
If you know that he steals from his other job, i'd probably tip in to the other place he works. Stealing is wrong, and he deserves to face the consequences from the hands of those affected.

@natalie: That's the definition of the ghetto, but I'm talking about ghetto people. If you've never experienced interacting with ghetto people on a daily basis, you wouldn't understand.

@kevqn: it's described as an isolated area where minorities reside; nothing about stealing or thieves. don't be ignorant

@ilikeanime: I don't know if he's poor or not, but that doesn't matter. If he steals from other people, he's worthless

@natalie: What do you mean? I think ghetto people are pathetic, what's wrong with that?

you're not doing anything wrong by not giving him a lift but your choice of diction with "ghetto" screams ignorant

Does he come from a poor family or something, or is he just greedy for free stuffs. I would've done the same and dump his ass. How can you make others life miserable by robbing and stealing from them for your own greed and enjoyment.

@Shini calm your tits, he just didn't give him a ride because he steals and (used to) rob. Ofcourse that is a good reason to dump his ass.

@wontpostmuch: We both work at UPS and you can't steal from there, because you go through a security booth when you go in and out. He has another job at a movie theater, that's where he steals from.

Dude, you should honestly report him. Stealing from companies ot costumers is seriously not okay. Or if you feel uncomfrotable, at least confront him. This can't go on and he needs to learn a lesson.

@pandapoet: No he won't, especially because he thinks I'm going to the gym

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0tI1Qgnc84

hes the kind of guy whos gonna get a gun to ur workplace and shoot it up

@sirkibble: Ghetto people are garbage..

and no he didn't do anything mean to me, I just won't drive anyone that's done that. Would you drive a murderer home, even though he used to do it?

@xreniya: I said it like that because he said he doesn't do it anymore, but I don't know if I believe him

could you not say "he doesnt do it anymore apparently" because that is very misleading

also, it's not mean, because it's your car and you're not obligated to give anyone a ride, especially if he has done or is doing something you disagree with

I wouldn`t drive him home either, especially since he has a job, it just shows he isn`t like some hobo and that he can get the money/things he`d steal without stealing them, meanwhile some hobos may not be able to.

Plus if he steals all that stuff, he likely has more then enough money to buy a car.

@shini: I wrote "He steals from his job that he works from now, so it's not like he's changed into a nice person. "
So he still is a thief and doesn't deserve any compassion. He said he stopped jumping people because he got a job.. that doesn't excuse him at all

i dont trust thievin ass people. let his ass walk.

"Even God forgives, and so should we."
http://i.imgur.com/kkWdBmd.jpg
:^)

you have good thought process kev
remembering shini's basil history, i disregard his opposing posts

thats fine. he deserves to miss out on those advantages. he obviously hurt other people in the past and continues to do so. good job for not taking pity on him during the bad weather. keep up the good work. (srs)

@kevqn: Uhm.
"[b]A couple of weeks ago he told me that [b]he used to[/b] rob people for money, phones, wallets etc...[/b]"
"[b]He doesn't do it anymore apparently[/b]"

No where in your post you mention he STILL CURRENTLY steals from the job both of you work at.
Also, remember the old saying; 'You reap what you sow?'
Did he tell you he never suffered any consequences?
No one in the real world actually gets away with doing wrong, and gets to live the rest of their lives without suffering the consequences. The real world actually doesn't work that way

Naturally the example you given I'd be upset or angry. However again even if he had the past of a serial killer... What you're doing is wrong & it wouldn't justify anything. Like I said it's not your place to treat someone like that just because they've use to do wrong.
If he doesn't do any wrong RIGHT NOW and/or to doing wrong to YOU. There's no good reason for you to be acting this way towards him.

ANNDD ever heard of a little something called "forgiveness"? Even though you literally have nothing to forgive him for since he didn't even do anything to you.
Just because someone use to do bad things & they no longer do it as time passes... They don't deserve to be treated like trash in the future.

@shini: Did you not read where I said "he still steals from his job"? I'm not letting a thief into my car, it is my place to "punish" someone, it's my car. He didn't suffer any consequences, he just happened to stop. Imagine you have a job, work really hard and buy a nice phone or a really nice watch. Now imagine someone comes, beats you up and takes those things that you worked hard for. This is that guy, and if you think I should feel bad for someone like that, then you're pathetic.

People that steal and hurt people don't deserve any respect and should be treated like dirt

Bruh what the fudge. So just because someone use to do bad things in the past marks them a bad person for life? Even though not only do they no longer do it. They were held accountable for their actions one way or other.

And i thought I was the mentally ill person... You have issues. What you did was flatout wrong. why is what he did in the past relevant now? Why does it even matter? It's not like he would rob you or anyone else again.(I hope, i don't think he'd do it again. If he's telling you now about what he use to do) Furthermore, it's not your place to "punish" someone for the wrong they do. Especially if it's not any wrong to you.

You're just being an butthole about something that has nothing to do with you. And about something he likely already suffered the consequences of. He doesn't need a double KO.