V. 1.07 Game Update. why is everyone hating?
i really do not see why people should be complaining. sure, NLC is destroyed and we got out nebulites, but maybe Nexon America is going somewhere with this plan. who knows? maybe in a future patch or something, they'll add more things to it, like NLC being rebuilt and stuff. many have noticed that the phantom forest is no longer a forest, and it's just a straight path to the crimson castle. although i was a big fan of the phantom forest (awesome music, anyone?), i'm actually glad that it's gone. i know that the point is to get lost and somehow end up outside the crimson castle (the dried up part infested with windraiders, firebrands, etc.), but it is just a waste of time in my opinion. i'd rather get straight to the chase instead of running around in portals and then miraculously poof in the crimson castle. and a ton of people are ranting about how the Krakian jungle is destroyed. c'mon. it's an alien invasion. they're SUPPOSED destroy everything. i know it's sad to see your memories of original NLC, Krakian jungle, Phantom forest, and outskirts of the crimson castle, but i think we should 'just keep swimmin' along instead of sticking out butts in the past.
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[quote=Kunhito]rip old nlc[/quote]
Yeah.. i hate the new NLC
@InterventionFMJ: I said on the day of launch, the original masteria was the coolest thing ever. Nothing about a quest. On the day of launch, the only quest people cared much for was Finding Jack, which EVERYONE was doing. It took a while for anyway to find their way through the phantom forest, because of the difficulty of the maze. Seriously, within the first week, people were paying up to 1m just for a guide through the forest. Then once they got to CWK mountain, you were pretty much a total boss if you could clear the JQ. It was some of the most fun I've had exploring a new area, especially since I figured out the maze myself(though it took 2 days), and along the way found a lot of HH's and BF's. Y'know, back when they were threatening.
What I was referring to the quest was how the storyline was good. There was a lot of backstory and it wasn't cheesy/incoherent. It was mysterious and left a lot open to think about, and people liked that. Of course at first, no one was concerned with that; everyone's main objective was reaching CWK.
[quote=minipapoute]Can we still make Arcglaives? >.<[/quote]
All of the CW crafting has been removed
Can we still make Arcglaives? >.<
[quote=ProBlades]Sigh. Yet another lazy noob who thinks that the original masteria was crap.
If you were there on the day of launch, it was the coolest thing, like ever.
Not to mention the fact it had a GOOD storyline. A good storyline that could've been continued for some awesome content.
R.I.P. Masteria.
And now we'll never see Krakia, Versal, or Naricain.
@above If you call rewarding the stupid and lazy "leveling the playing field".
I call it unfair to those who actually the play game Nexon originally intended it to be.[/quote]
You couldn't have been playing since the launch or else you would know no one gave a Fruit about the quest.
Everyone was too busy exploiting the bomb spawn glitch.
[quote=ProBlades]Sigh. Yet another lazy noob who thinks that the original masteria was crap.
If you were there on the day of launch, it was the coolest thing, like ever.
Not to mention the fact it had a GOOD storyline. A good storyline that could've been continued for some awesome content.
R.I.P. Masteria.
And now we'll never see Krakia, Versal, or Naricain.
@above If you call rewarding the stupid and lazy "leveling the playing field".
I call it unfair to those who actually the play game Nexon originally intended it to be.[/quote]
lol did i ever say i hated/ disliked original masteria? no. so stop assuming that i hate/dislike masteria lol. and no, masteria is not dead. the good vibes sure are gone, but the continent itself is not gone.
"the only thing constant in everything is... change."
"stop complaining it is a game feature."
Sigh. Yet another lazy noob who thinks that the original masteria was crap.
If you were there on the day of launch, it was the coolest thing, like ever.
Not to mention the fact it had a GOOD storyline. A good storyline that could've been continued for some awesome content.
R.I.P. Masteria.
And now we'll never see Krakia, Versal, or Naricain.
@above If you call rewarding the stupid and lazy "leveling the playing field".
I call it unfair to those who actually the play game Nexon originally intended it to be.
I think it was done to give people a chance to do CWKPQ. Before, you had to do a whole bunch of stuff just to get to the pq, and not everyone would be able to pass to accomplish this. Nexon just lvled the playing field.
[quote=Darkwolf6545]@abilas26: Bigfoot hit 10mil damage? o.o
Meh, I'm only ever in NLC to get to the Haunted Mansion or to get MP pots, so I don't really care what Nexon does with it [/quote]
Wow.
I failed LOL.
10k* Damage
@abilas26: Bigfoot hit 10mil damage? o.o
Meh, I'm only ever in NLC to get to the Haunted Mansion or to get MP pots, so I don't really care what Nexon does with it
This patch was just a cop-out so they could avoid expanding on the old NLC story lines that they originally created. Now they don't have to worry about tying up any loose ends or leading us on whenever they talk about GMS exclusive content. It's gone, so they can put the old ideas behind them
I disliked what they did to Victoria Island during the Big Bang...it's like they took everything mysterious away from new players when it comes to exploring. Before the map layout actually made sense, you had a circular path around Victoria Island, with Ellinia being the port town and Sleepywood being the mysterious town deep in the center. Now it's just a bunch of secluded areas that don't really lead anywhere, like there's no connection between the towns anymore unless you travel through the Six-Paths Crossway.
Now they take the fun out of exploring Crimsonwood Forest? Sure it was a hassle but that was the point, you're lost in a huge forest trying to find your way. This game is continuing to become more and more noob-friendly (or easier, whatever you wanna call it). They're taking the fun and mystery out of exploring, and replacing it with the most brain dead maps ever.
I wish Nexon would realize that some people still play this game for the sake of having fun, and not just for paying $$$ just to see some higher numbers. I know they don't make as much money off of those players, but I feel as though they've been going in the wrong direction since the release of cubes.
NLC was my favorite city out of all the cities in the Maple World. That's where I leveled to 30. Which was a big achievement for me. (Pre-BB) Then, I leveled to 70! I was so happy. They ruined the famous "Maplestory" there in the background. The Eiffel Tower is now broken, and so is Big Ben. Oh god, so many memories. That was my hometown. Not Henesys, Kerning, or anything. It was the best Nexon has made. NLC made me happy every time I go there. Having fun getting lost in the Phantom Forest and trying to see who can climb the Eiffel Tower the fastest. NLC has such an amazing storyline. omgosh, I fell in love with the story. I had a heart-attack when they added Crimsonwood. I was litterally going to faint when I saw the previews here. I thought it was going to be an expansion of Krakian Jungle or MesoGears! I WAS DYING TO KNOW.
But they totally ruined the moment when it was an alien attack. It had nothing to do with the storyline. nope. ughhhh. Hate NEXON. I really was looking forward to this expansion....
[quote=Darkwolf6545]I don't get why people are getting mad about NLC. I never really found the place all that interesting anyways,[/quote]
It was my favourite place <3
Gave me so much fame, a nice chair, best PQ ever, pretty interesting quest line, and it's like one of the best places in maple to explore >
I loved getting lost and finding a BF, when it still hit 10m lol.
I'd have my friends come, and leech me for freeee.
I don't get why people are getting mad about NLC. I never really found the place all that interesting anyways,
well, we wanted a masteria reevamp, so here it is. this isn't the end of the world, guys. deal with it. nexon america is trying to please us, can't you guys get that message through your heads? they've been flamed at for bugs and glitches, and they even apologize for it, even after an unscheduled maintenance. but many take their apology and throw it down the drain like they are saying "sorry" like they "mean it from the depths of their heart". what i'm saying is that GMS has been under a lot of pressure, and i think you guys should give them a second or third chance. not everyone gets things right the first time. and maybe it's time to diverge from KMS a bit?
@xfluffymanx: no, i am not a competitive player. i play for fun and not damage, unlike some out there who care only about dmage and nothing else. if i find the content fun, cool!
@xidamex and @ xTSlicex: THANKS GUYS luv ya~ <3 no homo.
@heIIspawn: Ikr, cuz jack isnt there to start the quest.
@SacredSealed: The Brewing Storm, Storming the Castle. These quest got removed so u cannot obtain the keystone anymore. so lukan npc is there, ty for the correction but is useless now :l
Burn down Nexons HQ, gogogo
[quote=MyNameTim]Nexon made the Phantom Forest about convenience, not fun. [/quote]
That's how Big Bang's map changes were designed too.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC2EaZ2o55Y]My thoughts on this update.[/url]
[quote=heIIspawn]sorry to tell u that new players cannot be leaders on cwk because they removed the lukan[/quote]
No they removed jack.
lukans there.
Hey, atleast we still have 2/3 of the stuff to do...
Altho, i remember when, after bf got nerfed, I went on my mech and solod it.
Was sooooooo worth it.
What they should of done was take the future henesys idea and just make a portal to future NLC where everything is destroyed.
This is what I thought they would do at first. Isn't that npc guy with the black hood a alien too? He could of been in charge of the portal.
sorry to tell u that new players cannot be leaders on cwk because they removed the lukan
I like what this guy has to say. Just keep calm and carry on.
People are mainly mad because it completely destroyed the one thing Nexon AM had going for it in terms of good exclusive content, the continent of Masteria. With such a massive storyline, that goes very in-depth. It had the potential to expand for years. With area's such as Vinelands, Affluent Tower, Big Ben (They never fully released big ben, mesogears =/= big ben), Krakia, etc. Basically in a nutshell, this update completely destroyed Masteria, the one thing that many maplers loved.
So...?
Removed Forest Maze
Removed Jump Quest
Removed Typhons
-Therefore Removing
-Crimson Arcglaives
-Crimson Arcanon
-Crimson Arclacher(is it spelled correctly)
-Balanced Furies
Removed GFA Quest (well since you can't enter Bigger Ben)
Removed Fun Quests
Added: Cubes...
From what you're saying, I bet that you play Maplestory competitively, because the people that actually stop for once, and appreciate all of the features that Nexon put into the game, have every right to be mad. Now don't get me wrong, I hate Nexon more than the average Mapler, so don't go calling me a Nexon-lover or whatever. What I'm trying to say is that people have every right to be mad (including me) because after you get to level 200, all that is left to do is to explore the Maple World, Boss, or just hang out. With a third of these things taken away, Maplestory has become less fun, making people make hate threads about this.
Like always, we rant about how NexonUS fails blah blah blah, this patch is the worst patch ever blah blah blah, Nexon screwed up blah blah.
We get this every major patch. Just live with it.
Though NLC can have a touch-up here and there. And to be honest, I would die laughing if they are going to do the same thing. For ex.release a part of a picture every few days, and find that this was the base of the cake, and then they incorporate a story line that leads to the creation of the OSSS and the said suits, etc.
@LordBigbuns: 5 of those 9 maps are pretty much the same thing, so my statement holds true. Also, Masteria is bullcrap right now. I could care less if they threw it away.
[quote=HomicideMark]The update is actually an excuse to give time to Nexon to think of ideas on how to revamp NLC. NLC is GMS only too so I'm pretty sure we will get even more content in a patch or so.[/quote]
most likely. cuz there was no part 2 of the "aliens are attacking!" video posted up on maplestory's youtube channel. this isnt really a good reason as to why there WILL or MIGHT be a NLC revamp part two, but i'm pretty sure that theres another update coming soon. maybe in the next patch next month.
[quote=BurnedFrozen]@LordBigbuns: So they threw 30 things away, added like 4 maps, created something so they can make profit, and added an extremely small chain quest that ends with killing a very annoying boss 300 times or so along with completely erasing whatever was left of our old NLC.
Nexon America sure effed up.[/quote]
actually, they added at least 9 maps (6 in alien base, 1 for obtaining the green go card, 1 for the galacto drill, and one for if u died tryna kill the galacto drill) well, think of it this way. at least u still have masteria
@LordBigbuns: So they threw 30 things away, added like 4 maps, created something so they can make profit, and added an extremely small chain quest that ends with killing a very annoying boss 300 times or so along with completely erasing whatever was left of our old NLC.
Nexon America sure effed up.
[quote=EndSlasher]1. Don't make threads like this because you'll only get flamed
2. Expansion means adding maps, they took away the entire phantom forest and big ben and added a puny alien base
3. They took away a massive questline including the gfa quest and other fun quests for a questline that can be completed in 30min
4. I think this may be permanent, theres no way to make glaives and furys anymore...
5. They destroyed fun player content for a questline that is simply a excuse to introduce nebulites, a way to make more money (like potential)
6. The previous quests were fun and connected (very in depth with background quests with interlocking storyline) The new questline has 1 plot and is neither polished nor in depth(you destroy the drill machine...masteria is saved? Yet the aliens are still there...)
7.The graphics suck, they introduce 1 mob which is recoloured into "another mob" While they took away hh and bf among other monsters >_<
Conclusionurpose of new patch is to introduce nebulites, a further game unbalancing feature[/quote]
1. i really dont care if i get flamed. its an opinion post; i want to know why people think this particular part of the v. 1.07 patch is horrible
2. expansion also means adding new locations.
5. well, many players LOVE damage. heck, let's place a potential on top of another potential! honestly, gms knows their audience quite well, i'd say.
The problem is people are taking this like NEXON did this and said "okay that's all Masteria's over cya guyz." We don't know if it is or not. If it's expanded and actually fixed I can see people eating their words. The old Masteria was WAY too expansive and would have taken YEARSSSSS to complete. Yes it was awesome and amazing but still. With this new approach NEXON America can start anew and take a different path. People jump too quick conclusions, pessimistic ones, and then complain. On top of that no one should be defending this as an AMAZING update to Masteria YET. This part is DECENT at best. The Aliens are nice exp, it sucks the maps were removed but we'll live, and the dialogue is obviously meant to not be taken seriously with all it's crummy cliches and what not. All that I have to say is it's FINE it's a DECENT update and it opens Masteria to more training oppertunties IN THE JUNGLE. The revamp may not be done, there's probably more expansions, this is a fresh new start. Just wait before conclusions are jumped too.
Well first of all, I can't do the level up events...
[quote=galeilam22]well i dont know if its good or not but pepole will always complain .. thats how we are, i am not nexon hater but i think they can improve the game if they were thinking about the players , but i didnt play for like 3 weeks and i think im near quitting so.. have fun with the complaint community[/quote]
Well, most of the people that say they don't like the new content, they don't actually hate the company, it's more of a comment or a feedback of what they think of. Thinking of an awesome update with no bugs is impossible, there is no way to be perfect. But I always think there is room to improve, for the better of not just the game, but daily lives as well.
[quote=BurnedFrozen]"2 new extremely small paths"
"Expansion"
They just threw away a billion good things and you're saying it's a good expansion because of 2 new small areas?[/quote]
lol no! i know it's hard to accept the fact that many maps were deleted (not directed towards you), but really, it was an expansion that focused on adding a sub-area, not deleting sub-maps of a sub-area. and i'm sure as heck that there are not a billion things they threw away. like maybe 30, tops? and actually, it's not 2 areas, its just one (the alien liar). the jungle was just edited, and many other maps. now, i am not strictly arguing about phantom fores and cwkpq because i'm focusing on NLC, jungle, and alien sub level. and if you're a person who lags or stuck in a cutscene a lot, you really shouldnt be hating the update. search up for a solution or two. i personally had this experience. i was stuck right before DS fought the black mage, and believe me, i was pretty upset >.< but i just simply deleted my character. i dunt know why i made a ds lol. i dislike (not saying hate, cuz this is taking the word "dislike" to a whole new degree) the class.
The only good thing is that I don't have to travel to NLC
to get potions like honsters.
I just go there from the mirror.
Other than that, this update sucks.
maybe becuz im stuck in a foking cut scene
[quote=Azndani3l]...It wasn't the drill. The drill created an earthquake. Its just another event for something new. Don't hate o.o[/quote]
In honestly, that isn't exactly hate, it's more in terms of opinion. The hot-spot of the earthquake was suppose to be NLC (New Leaf City) but rearranging Phantom Forest and Crimsonwood Mountains is just wrong. It's suppose to be untouched because it wasn't a hot-spot, nor would it affect it anyhow in any shape or form since it was further away from NLC. It wasn't even said in the update that Masteria was going to be revamped, only the PQ, and the Expansion for the Alien Base. Nexon (America) has hidden many changes within the update and doesn't announce it. This event seems more like a money maker scheme then an actual, real event, based off opinion of course.
EDIT: Actually, Nexon announced it to be "improved" but they have yet to say few monsters have been removed along with the few maps, I still don't find it "improved".
[quote=LordBigbuns]i really do not see why people should be complaining. sure, NLC is destroyed and we got out nebulites, but maybe Nexon America is going somewhere with this plan. who knows? maybe in a future patch or something, they'll add more things to it, like NLC being rebuilt and stuff. many have noticed that the phantom forest is no longer a forest, and it's just a straight path to the crimson castle. although i was a big fan of the phantom forest (awesome music, anyone?), i'm actually glad that it's gone. i know that the point is to get lost and somehow end up outside the crimson castle (the dried up part infested with windraiders, firebrands, etc.), but it is just a waste of time in my opinion. i'd rather get straight to the chase instead of running around in portals and then miraculously poof in the crimson castle. and a ton of people are ranting about how the Krakian jungle is destroyed. c'mon. it's an alien invasion. they're SUPPOSED destroy everything. i know it's sad to see your memories of original NLC, Krakian jungle, Phantom forest, and outskirts of the crimson castle, but i think we should 'just keep swimmin' along instead of sticking out butts in the past.[/quote]
I want to assume you're new to Maple, but I'll just say this. The loss of many maps along with the storyline, it kills many peoples interests to even bother play the game. It may seem like it easier and they'll expand, but Nexon America does not seem to know what they're even doing in terms of making the content the previous person was in charge before of Masteria. Games are suppose to kill time in my opinion, because you want to know what is after the next, next, and so on. If you could finish a brand new content in one day, it doesn't seem worth it to wait. Getting straight to the chase seems more like spoon feeding, and I know I don't want to be spoon fed. This game will die faster due to the fact, Nexon America isn't making true progress, they haven't used their creativity, besides making more money. It's been shown every update, on Maplestory, this company wants money, and only money, just look at their customer service. There is truly nothing left to look forward to besides the leeched content from KMS.
[quote=LordBigbuns]okay. obviously i did not join when it came out, i just joined like right after the mech came out, and a lot of the people playing Maplestory at that time were like "oh, i dont like this" "too op" , but tbh, i'm not following this "change is good" trend. it's honestly what i think, not because i join some bandwagon that wants more of this so-called "trashy expansion", and i'm not saying that NLC was crap and it should've been thrown away, i'm just saying that it's nice to see some new things surface. now i know that this sparked a huge controversy, like "why couldn't they have just expanded masteria instead? i would like to see a new masteria!" well, this is technically an expansion. what came after those two dead ends in the krakian jungle? heh, well now you know one of the answers. ALIENS! cheer up. it's probably now gonna stay this way for too long. and yes, i do know that this was something that GMS created. although the original developer of Masteria is no longer with nexon, it now is in the hands of nexon america. so i guess it's their decision on what to do. and no, i do not believe that the forest was randomly generated. stop trying to insult people on what they DO know, what they don't know.[/quote]
"2 new extremely small paths"
"Expansion"
They just threw away a billion good things and you're saying it's a good expansion because of 2 new small areas?
i like the new update. its easier for me to get around on a non DS player. with a non DS player u dont have ur "super jump" so its harder to get around. so now its easy
[quote=TheElite711]MagicFrappe: With this update...yes I am surprised[/quote]
I was expecting them to find something wrong with it, but not to this degree.
Everyone was talking about how GMS needs more exclusive content instead of copying and pasting from KMS.
Then when it happens they all act like it's the end of the world.
And they actually pulled it off quite well, too. The quests were entertaining, the aliens give great exp, and the new socket system makes it more fun.
Honestly, you people are extremely contradictory and the reason why there are things wrong with the GMS community. I doubt that KMS players whine as much as you guys do.
[quote=godofturtles]Why are they hating? Because apparently Nexon deserves it's approval rating which is lower than Osama bin Laden's. If people stopped blaming Nexon for things, they'd have to finally look in the mirror and blame themselves and we know that ain't gonna happen. Nexon could give us 100 good things and 1 bad thing, and people would cry a river over that 1 bad thing. So yes, Nexon needs to follow God from Futurama's advice: If you do things right, nobody will be sure you've done anything at all. Players would certainly be more pleasant, and my eyes wouldn't bleed every time I read any post from any Basil thread.
I do agree though that NLC has been pretty much nuked and turned into basically a place to train under 100, or buy broken pots, and has lost the things that made it great, however I agree with you that more is to come. I doubt it will be destroyed forever, we may have a part 2. Wasn't the alien preview video listed as part 1?[/quote]
The Futurama reference made this comment 20% cooler
i dont hate i just dont like tht after ths update i lag every 5min and tht monday crayon didnt work
If you haven't noticed, Basilers whine and find something wrong with every single darn update. They grasp at straws in order to find reasons to complain if there aren't any obvious ones.
Worst of all, they ask for a masteria revamp, and when it happens they complain saying they wish it would of never happened. When they ask for a pirate/thief update and it happens, they complain and whine begging for it to go back tot he way it was.
Are you really that surprised?
[quote=TheElite711]Wait wait WAIT....They took away my favorite part of this blasted game? There is no hope anymore in my eyes. This game has truly turned into a contest of who can out damage the other and who will give the most money to Nexon for it [/quote]
it's been like this since post-chaos update lol. @LightCuber: yeah, i'm pretty sure in an alien invasion, aliens would destroy cities XD let's wait for a few more years irl, shall we?
the updates notes said that they were gonna expand Masteria, not maps. they never took away NLC, krakian jungle, nor the phantom forest. they simply took away the best maps, which is why people are hating, not because gms took away some location. but what they did take away from NLC, kirakian jungle, and phantom forest was the vibe it emitted. that's probably why another reason why people are hating. other than that i would just be glad that GMS didnt take away the main components of Masteria. @shadepool7: okay, i was being optimistic. saying "it might come back" is not consoling oneself. it's called being optimistic. i'm not trying to make you feel dumb (like who doesn't know what optimistic means lol), but im just stating how i feel, how how u think how i feel. complicated, i know. @NeverRIP: and what made you feel this way?
It's not necessarily this particular game update that everyone's hating on. The stuff copied from KMS is amazing and fun (although ephinia didn't drop anything when I killed her in like 2.5 minutes). The problems is this - that they spent most of their marketing resources emphasizing the epicosity of the alien invasion! It's so awesome! EPIC! While literally destroying the Masteria that everyone already loved to death. And the new "expansion", which should really be called a nerf, is pretty much the complete opposite of what it was hyped up to be.