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I don't like how they took it out of the list of planets. I mean, it's one thing to have never considered it a planet, but to officially call it a planet and revoke that...
I really liked Pluto as a planet .

well Pluto doesn't go with the definition of planet.

[quote=meowingsan]Don't sleep during class.[/quote]

What if it was still a planet while you were in class?

[quote=Dupants]Oh great, another ignorant one. I'm not gonna bother with you since you're contradicting yourself and don't even notice it.[/quote]

[quote=Dupants][b]It is important.[/b] It's part of the stars that we came from. The other dwarf planets have names. [b]Everything has a name.[/b] You're just ignorant.[/quote]

[quote=Dupants]Ok. So your [b]name[/b] isn't important. [/quote]

I don't know why you keep on calling people ignorant. Those are immature debate skills.
I usually debate with people who have at least done their homework and at least have educated themselves by reading a few scholarly articles here and there. The points at which you bring across clash already. These are already topics which philosophers and other thinkers have written about in articles. It would do you some good to read up on those before putting contradictions in the same sentence.

[b]And your loose use of the word "ignorant" is in fact, ignorant. It is ignorant to claim to know.[/b] This is, again, a series of philosophical discussions that you can read up on. Been a long time but I think the first mention of "to know is to know nothing" was from Socrates. From that point on, the discussion continues to grow from whether movement is really real or to whether our consciousness is real. I won't bother you with those though, the rest of it is out of the scope of this.

It's pervasive that talking to you will get nowhere. When one debates, they must stick to their point and make sure to not contradict themselves. Also, one must remember that the discussion at hand is about the ideas. We are not attacking each other, but rather, the opposing ideas are clashing.

I am not claiming that I am better than you. I am simply claiming that you should be more aware of what you are saying.

Pluto is not a planet, it's just a large chunk of ice. It also has a surface. Meanwhile, Jupiter and Saturn both are just giant balls of gas known as gas giants, but they do not have a surface. But they are still planets for some reason.

On a side note, the Jupiter chair doesn't really look like Jupiter at all, where is the big red spot?

[quote=CherryTigers]If that's all you got from reading my post... Oh wait, you didn't even read my post. I never called anything unimportant.
The first rule of having any discussion is when we have opposing ideas, we are attacking each other's ideas. Since you attacked me instead of my ideas and since you didn't even read my post, I'm just going to assume...

Putting that aside.. Things are important to us because we're human. I love my family because they are important to me. Someone else who doesn't know my family exists... it will be unimportant to them. (unimportance is a heavy assumption that I we have not affected them at all so I understand if you call my statement a fallacy) That goes along the lines of the "Chaos Theory," or perhaps the "Butterfly Effect." Google those to read those theories. Quite an interesting read.

Looking at this in a different point of view... Hypothetically maybe as an alien that's far more advanced than us humans:

In the grand scheme of things, even if I was never born, nothing would change. Beyond all this, humans may be extinct in the future. So you are correct, I am indeed unimportant.
Even if I became the pharmacist that I dreamed to and I discovered a cure to things such as AIDs or made other significant scientific contributions, if all humans died, what would it change?
[b]this is all hypothetical so don't take my post too seriously. We don't even know if we're the only "intelligent" organisms in our galaxy which is one of an inconceivable amount of others so we cannot even make the assertion that I just made. [/b]

Aside from being that negative...
I don't know why you would start a discussion if you were illiterate.[/quote]
Oh great, another ignorant one. I'm not gonna bother with you since you're contradicting yourself and don't even notice it.

[quote=LostElevenRR]i know about the whole "its not a planet cuz science said so" thing, i've just never cared for it. i mean if its not important, why bother giving it a name?[/quote]

It's THE largest chunk of rock in the Kuiper belt (which is still pretty small, small enough that u probably can't see what ur sitting on if u make it into a chair). Many of the other rocks have names such as Eris, they're just WAAAYYYY less known, especially since Pluto was so well known as a planet before they discovered the other 2 million pluto like objects in the Kuiper belt.

[quote=Mijael]lol nope just a fail unnoticeable trolling attempt [/quote]

You got me wow so funny!

[quote=darkspawn980]did you get hacked?[/quote]

lol nope just a fail unnoticeable trolling attempt

@Likwid: Thanks!

This discussion is so hypothetical and everyone has their own views on this. Because no one can know for sure, no one can be out rightly incorrect or correct as long as they don't violate the things that we know for sure.

This discussion of "importance" reminds me of the "butterfly effect." This is an interesting video if you want to watch it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBK3QpQVnaw
One thing has an affect on something so far away... A butterfly flapping its wing in Texas... can that flap cause a tornado in a Oklahoma?

[quote=Mijael]nexon announces big rollback 1 week. because of mape dupe.

for more information[/quote]

did you get hacked?

[quote=Dupants]It is important. It's part of the stars that we came from. The other dwarf planets have names. Everything has a name. You're just ignorant.[/quote]

meh. ignorance is bliss.

[quote=Likwid]Everything is important. Something you have done has directly affected someone else's life, for good or for better.

OT : It has a name also to the fact that it WAS a planet, until scientists decided it was too small to actually be considered a planet.[/quote]

Yea, this is correct. Importance is relative to what we are. For example, I am important to my mother. Similarly, I am unimportant to someone who doesn't even know I exist.

[url=http://video.adultswim.com/rick-and-morty/something-ricked-this-way-comes.html]Come on, even the aliens on Pluto know that they don't live on a planet[/url]

[quote=Dupants]Ok. So your name isn't important. [/quote]

If that's all you got from reading my post... Oh wait, you didn't even read my post. I never called anything unimportant.
The first rule of having any discussion is when we have opposing ideas, we are attacking each other's ideas. Since you attacked me instead of my ideas and since you didn't even read my post, I'm just going to assume...

Putting that aside.. Things are important to us because we're human. I love my family because they are important to me. Someone else who doesn't know my family exists... it will be unimportant to them. (unimportance is a heavy assumption that I we have not affected them at all so I understand if you call my statement a fallacy) That goes along the lines of the "Chaos Theory," or perhaps the "Butterfly Effect." Google those to read those theories. Quite an interesting read.

Looking at this in a different point of view... Hypothetically maybe as an alien that's far more advanced than us humans:

In the grand scheme of things, even if I was never born, nothing would change. Beyond all this, humans may be extinct in the future. So you are correct, I am indeed unimportant.
Even if I became the pharmacist that I dreamed to and I discovered a cure to things such as AIDs or made other significant scientific contributions, if all humans died, what would it change?
[b]this is all hypothetical so don't take my post too seriously. We don't even know if we're the only "intelligent" organisms in our galaxy which is one of an inconceivable amount of others so we cannot even make the assertion that I just made. [/b]

Aside from being that negative...
I don't know why you would start a discussion if you didn't even read before you replied.

"Pluto isn't a real planet" -Black Science Man.

[quote=CherryTigers]A name is nothing more than a man made invention. Numbers, dates, calendars, time. All those are just man made inventions. Regardless of the name, it will still exist.

And just for the record, there have been too many planets named Planet X. Naming is simply for origination.

In human terms, we name things that we put value into such as our children and our friends or the places we go.

(and to the people who want to reply to this saying I missed too many things, yea... I know. I'm not going to type a huge, huge article on Basil. No one would read it anyways)[/quote]
Ok. So your name isn't important.

[quote=Dupants]It is important. It's part of the stars that we came from. The other dwarf planets have names. Everything has a name. You're just ignorant.[/quote]

A name is a man made invention. Numbers, dates, calendars, time. All those are just man made inventions. Regardless of the name, it will still exist.
Dolphins and butterflies probably have no clue that they're called "dolphins" or "butterflies" because when they came into existence, they were not tagged with the names, "dolphins" or "butterflies."

And just for the record, there have been too many planets named Planet X. Naming a planet is simply for origination.

In human terms, we name things that we put value into such as our children and our friends or the places we go.

(and to the people who want to reply to this saying I missed too many things, yea... I know. I'm not going to type a huge, huge article on Basil. No one would read it anyways)

[quote=Dupants]It is important. It's part of the stars that we came from. The other dwarf planets have names. Everything has a name. You're just ignorant.[/quote]

@lostelevenrr
u got ownt so hard m8 u might wnana recosndier ur education

[quote=LostElevenRR]i know about the whole "its not a planet cuz science said so" thing, i've just never cared for it. i mean if its not important, why bother giving it a name?[/quote]
It is important. It's part of the stars that we came from. The other dwarf planets have names. Everything has a name. You're just ignorant.

[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwHF6tZyIaY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwHF6tZyIaY[/url]

i know about the whole "its not a planet cuz science said so" thing, i've just never cared for it. i mean if its not important, why bother giving it a name?

[quote=iowncloud]Where have you been the last couple of years?[/quote]

A couple? That seems like such an understatement ..

Where have you been the last couple of years?

Might want to trade your old science text book in for a new one. o.o

Fail troll attempt just failed.

Pluto isn't a planet. It's just a giant ice rock.