Teacher's fault: Sometimes, they don't teach as well as they really can. They do teach, just not well. Student's fault: Most of the time, there's no motivation to learn. The only thing they would care about would be or video games. Parent's fault: Not giving enough motivation or just not giving enough help.
But I could be wrong because I feel that it's not my parents/ teacher's fault but mine. But I want to learn and could put aside my videogames. But I still get C's in my honors classes. Idk why, but I need to fix it. lol
I almost forgot. The school funding gets cut and so, less teachers and more students. And with the faults shown above, it makes America's education situation worse. In addition, big time companies benefit from this by giving high school dropouts low wage jobs.
[quote=RitoPls]I think parents put most of the blame on the teachers rather than where it should be: on the students.
Ya no one wants to admit his kid isn't the smartest person in the world but damn dude -- just explain to your kid that he needs to take responsibility.[/quote] ehhh. at my school it actually is the teachers faults. 75% of the class shouldn't just be failing because the students don't try, there's something wrong with the way the teacher is teaching. one of my teachers legitimately grades you on how much he likes you. doesn't matter if you do every assignment and do it correctly, if he doesn't like you he'll fail you. one of our teachers BARELY got fired when word got out she was doing the dirty with a student, and another teacher knew it was going on the whole time but said nothing and got in no trouble for it. the teachers and school board here take school less seriously than the students do, and i'm assuming that's the case for atleast some other schools in the usa, too.
[quote=Lehvahk]How does one even measure if an Education is good...? Standardized testing does not show the level of education an individual has received and this is how it is determined when compared to other countries. It's a ludicrous idea to say one country is better than another simply due to test scores. I've received a great education in high school thus far, but on the "standard" tests I don't see any music questions, which is what I have learned the most this year. What people define as education nowadays are tests and grades, not really the actual learning process. Within high school many people don't take subjects seriously, and they have to learn the hard way later one it was important. I have a kid next to me in Chem and he copies my work. I usually don't let him but its sad to see people waste away opportunities to show your knowledge. Thats probably why education in the USA "sucks" Ive put in a lot and I'm getting out a bunch /End Rant[/quote]
http://www.ncee.org/programs-affiliates/center-on-international-education-benchmarking/top-performing-countries/ This very much talks about the learning processes of countries. Oh look, no USA.
What I found very interesting was this graph http://www.ncee.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/New-Zealand-PISA.jpg A small country like New Zealand is doing so much better in the way of education compared to the USA.
I actually think I got a great education all throughout my years of compulsory education. I was challenged, in an academically driven environment, and everyone was exactly like me and wanted to take full advantage of their education. Like everyone from my high school goes to reallyyyy good/high ranked schools now. Or there are in really good arts schools. But I always went to magnet schools with good funding and are more academically rigorous than the other schools in my area. Also, the people weren't forced to be there. We all WANTED to be there. Which I think is a HUGE part of it too.
I was definitely prepped for college, more so than my peers I think. I just wasn't mentally prepared for my first semester.
[quote=opmeTK]We have one life. Why waste it on things we DON'T want to do (School for 12+ years, then work for 30+ for majority) instead of making life experiences and going out to explore the world all the time.[/quote] #word#qft#yoloswga#merryme
How does one even measure if an Education is good...? Standardized testing does not show the level of education an individual has received and this is how it is determined when compared to other countries. It's a ludicrous idea to say one country is better than another simply due to test scores. I've received a great education in high school thus far, but on the "standard" tests I don't see any music questions, which is what I have learned the most this year. What people define as education nowadays are tests and grades, not really the actual learning process. Within high school many people don't take subjects seriously, and they have to learn the hard way later one it was important. I have a kid next to me in Chem and he copies my work. I usually don't let him but its sad to see people waste away opportunities to show your knowledge. Thats probably why education in the USA "sucks" Ive put in a lot and I'm getting out a bunch /End Rant
Also, we spend a lot of our time focusing on different standardized tests. There are EOCs, AP exams, DEA as a predictor for the EOC among others. We pretty much spend April trying to review all of our past material for the crapton of tests in May.
Public schools are drastically underfunded, because state governments always seem to target them first when the budget cuts need to be made. It's made even worse with NCLB, which punishes schools that under-perform on state tests by pulling funding. How do schools respond to this? With highly scripted lessons designed to prepare students for state testing. A lot of your teachers probably suck because they have no freedom.
One of the biggest reason for our current education failure is because the people behind "America's" teaching licenses are a corporate company. Not a single protest was heard when Pearson took pretty much full control of our education system.
Lots of teachers are bad at teaching, especially science teachers. They just assume everybody is as smart as them so they don't really have to teach. Teachers also have definite favorites, which can influence grades on various essays and other subjective homework, though English teachers (at least where I'm at) are pretty good at being objective with the papers. Also a lot of students aren't motivated and just don't try/cheat. I don't mean to stereotype, but it's usually the hot girls because they know they probably can get a rich husband (these are the ones that usually just don't try) and the people who are good at sports because they can easily get a scholarship somewhere (these are usually the ones who cheat because they don't feel like trying but they do need to get a certain grade to get into a school) and some of the druggies because they just are out of it (though I know one who's actually pretty smart and does great in school). I know I said I didn't mean to stereotype and I totally just did, but this is just exactly as I see it at my school, and I have many examples of it.
Don't blame the school for why you're failing, lol. @GHSNinja People don't waste 2 years at JC's. After those 2 years, they can transfer with an AA as a jr grad. Meaning they won't be behind their class at all. And even when people go to straight to state university, people still can fall behind, as you're not required to take full classes. Also factor in some people go into work first. Just shut up, you're stupid
Cuz teachers don't teach and most are racist and sexist (not even kidding now). My science teacher has an unspoken caste system for his class. Hot white girls on top, then hot asian girls, then white guys, and then asian guys at the bottom.
Because if your a high school grad then the administrators have done their job and have served their only purpose in the world.
Seriously in my high school all anyone cared about was getting you to graduate, i have a friend who got straight C's and he couldn't get into any 4-year colleges so he has to waste 2 years on a Junior college, he said that no one pushed him to get better grades and i agree, i got a C- in Calc and my counselor wouldnt let me take Summer classes to try and get a better grade, she said a C- was okay to have.... yea to pass high school but not for college.
[quote=Rainful]Teachers can't teach. Teachers are racist. Patents don't "motivate" their children to do their best and are okay with getting and just being average.[/quote]
Not true, not everyone is able to excel in academics, which is why we have scholars and...idiots. If everyone were to get 90+ averages, then that'd be the new "average student".
People who actually take schooling seriously get outstanding education. If you're disappointed in the level of education you are receiving; it's your own fault.
I think parents put most of the blame on the teachers rather than where it should be: on the students.
Ya no one wants to admit his kid isn't the smartest person in the world but damn dude -- just explain to your kid that he needs to take responsibility.
Teachers can't teach. Teachers are racist. Patents don't "motivate" their children to do their best and are okay with getting and just being average.
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Teacher's fault: Sometimes, they don't teach as well as they really can. They do teach, just not well.
Student's fault: Most of the time, there's no motivation to learn. The only thing they would care about would be or video games.
Parent's fault: Not giving enough motivation or just not giving enough help.
But I could be wrong because I feel that it's not my parents/ teacher's fault but mine. But I want to learn and could put aside my videogames. But I still get C's in my honors classes. Idk why, but I need to fix it. lol
I almost forgot. The school funding gets cut and so, less teachers and more students. And with the faults shown above, it makes America's education situation worse.
In addition, big time companies benefit from this by giving high school dropouts low wage jobs.
I wish America's education system was better.
[quote=RitoPls]I think parents put most of the blame on the teachers rather than where it should be: on the students.
Ya no one wants to admit his kid isn't the smartest person in the world but damn dude -- just explain to your kid that he needs to take responsibility.[/quote]
ehhh. at my school it actually is the teachers faults. 75% of the class shouldn't just be failing because the students don't try, there's something wrong with the way the teacher is teaching. one of my teachers legitimately grades you on how much he likes you. doesn't matter if you do every assignment and do it correctly, if he doesn't like you he'll fail you. one of our teachers BARELY got fired when word got out she was doing the dirty with a student, and another teacher knew it was going on the whole time but said nothing and got in no trouble for it. the teachers and school board here take school less seriously than the students do, and i'm assuming that's the case for atleast some other schools in the usa, too.
cause they just want the money
[quote=Lehvahk]How does one even measure if an Education is good...? Standardized testing does not show the level of education an individual has received and this is how it is determined when compared to other countries. It's a ludicrous idea to say one country is better than another simply due to test scores. I've received a great education in high school thus far, but on the "standard" tests I don't see any music questions, which is what I have learned the most this year. What people define as education nowadays are tests and grades, not really the actual learning process. Within high school many people don't take subjects seriously, and they have to learn the hard way later one it was important. I have a kid next to me in Chem and he copies my work. I usually don't let him but its sad to see people waste away opportunities to show your knowledge. Thats probably why education in the USA "sucks" Ive put in a lot and I'm getting out a bunch /End Rant[/quote]
http://www.ncee.org/programs-affiliates/center-on-international-education-benchmarking/top-performing-countries/ This very much talks about the learning processes of countries. Oh look, no USA.
What I found very interesting was this graph http://www.ncee.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/New-Zealand-PISA.jpg
A small country like New Zealand is doing so much better in the way of education compared to the USA.
I actually think I got a great education all throughout my years of compulsory education.
I was challenged, in an academically driven environment, and everyone was exactly like me and wanted to take full advantage of their education.
Like everyone from my high school goes to reallyyyy good/high ranked schools now. Or there are in really good arts schools.
But I always went to magnet schools with good funding and are more academically rigorous than the other schools in my area.
Also, the people weren't forced to be there. We all WANTED to be there. Which I think is a HUGE part of it too.
I was definitely prepped for college, more so than my peers I think. I just wasn't mentally prepared for my first semester.
One word sums it all, funding.
[quote=opmeTK]We have one life. Why waste it on things we DON'T want to do (School for 12+ years, then work for 30+ for majority) instead of making life experiences and going out to explore the world all the time.[/quote]
#word#qft#yoloswga#merryme
How does one even measure if an Education is good...? Standardized testing does not show the level of education an individual has received and this is how it is determined when compared to other countries. It's a ludicrous idea to say one country is better than another simply due to test scores. I've received a great education in high school thus far, but on the "standard" tests I don't see any music questions, which is what I have learned the most this year. What people define as education nowadays are tests and grades, not really the actual learning process. Within high school many people don't take subjects seriously, and they have to learn the hard way later one it was important. I have a kid next to me in Chem and he copies my work. I usually don't let him but its sad to see people waste away opportunities to show your knowledge. Thats probably why education in the USA "sucks" Ive put in a lot and I'm getting out a bunch /End Rant
[quote=PiePooper]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDZFcDGpL4U[/quote]
The drawing skills really distracted me.
Also, we spend a lot of our time focusing on different standardized tests. There are EOCs, AP exams, DEA as a predictor for the EOC among others. We pretty much spend April trying to review all of our past material for the crapton of tests in May.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDZFcDGpL4U
Public schools are drastically underfunded, because state governments always seem to target them first when the budget cuts need to be made. It's made even worse with NCLB, which punishes schools that under-perform on state tests by pulling funding. How do schools respond to this? With highly scripted lessons designed to prepare students for state testing. A lot of your teachers probably suck because they have no freedom.
One of the biggest reason for our current education failure is because the people behind "America's" teaching licenses are a corporate company. Not a single protest was heard when Pearson took pretty much full control of our education system.
Lots of teachers are bad at teaching, especially science teachers. They just assume everybody is as smart as them so they don't really have to teach. Teachers also have definite favorites, which can influence grades on various essays and other subjective homework, though English teachers (at least where I'm at) are pretty good at being objective with the papers. Also a lot of students aren't motivated and just don't try/cheat. I don't mean to stereotype, but it's usually the hot girls because they know they probably can get a rich husband (these are the ones that usually just don't try) and the people who are good at sports because they can easily get a scholarship somewhere (these are usually the ones who cheat because they don't feel like trying but they do need to get a certain grade to get into a school) and some of the druggies because they just are out of it (though I know one who's actually pretty smart and does great in school). I know I said I didn't mean to stereotype and I totally just did, but this is just exactly as I see it at my school, and I have many examples of it.
@SomeJello: You're acting like only American kids choose to make nothing of it.
It's like that everywhere, yet you're still falling behind.
[quote=yesno1]I don't know about you, but USA education seem to be good enough. Learn to appreciate what you have spoiled brat[/quote]
I don't even live in America
You guys are out ranked by so many countries with a lot less resources lol
It doesn't suck college-wise
Don't blame the school for why you're failing, lol.
@GHSNinja People don't waste 2 years at JC's. After those 2 years, they can transfer with an AA as a jr grad. Meaning they won't be behind their class at all.
And even when people go to straight to state university, people still can fall behind, as you're not required to take full classes. Also factor in some people go into work first.
Just shut up, you're stupid
Cuz teachers don't teach and most are racist and sexist (not even kidding now).
My science teacher has an unspoken caste system for his class. Hot white girls on top, then hot asian girls, then white guys, and then asian guys at the bottom.
Because if your a high school grad then the administrators have done their job and have served their only purpose in the world.
Seriously in my high school all anyone cared about was getting you to graduate, i have a friend who got straight C's and he couldn't get into any 4-year colleges so he has to waste 2 years on a Junior college, he said that no one pushed him to get better grades and i agree, i got a C- in Calc and my counselor wouldnt let me take Summer classes to try and get a better grade, she said a C- was okay to have.... yea to pass high school but not for college.
[quote=Rainful]Teachers can't teach.
Teachers are racist.
Patents don't "motivate" their children to do their best and are okay with getting and just being average.[/quote]
Not true, not everyone is able to excel in academics, which is why we have scholars and...idiots. If everyone were to get 90+ averages, then that'd be the new "average student".
People who actually take schooling seriously get outstanding education. If you're disappointed in the level of education you are receiving; it's your own fault.
MURICA sorry just felt like saying that.
I think parents put most of the blame on the teachers rather than where it should be: on the students.
Ya no one wants to admit his kid isn't the smartest person in the world but damn dude -- just explain to your kid that he needs to take responsibility.
Teachers can't teach.
Teachers are racist.
Patents don't "motivate" their children to do their best and are okay with getting and just being average.
I think it's been reallllllllllly "dumbed down" imo.