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Why dont people just use the Chaos Ra hats?

Why don't people just use the Chaos RA (Chaos Vellum, Chaos Von Bon, etc) hats instead of Sweet water hats? They come with more slots = better potential for scrolling, and they can be PSOKed after equipping. The only downside is 3rd vs 4th tier potential, but that's going to be a maximum of 3% (1% per line) of difference. Easily saves a couple hundred mil.

June 20, 2014

15 Comments • Newest first

Erag0n1

They actually are quite worth it. 100m unsold clean in bera.
I've thought about using them on my chars but I already have hats settled so there's no need. On a new char though I probably will

Reply June 20, 2014
AckarRed

Crap, I missed that info

Reply June 20, 2014
royalrin

[quote=AnthonysWill]They're more expensive than lv 150 RA hats.
They bind to you when equipped.
People will prefer the lv 150 RA hat instead since its cheaper.[/quote]

They don't soulbind afaik, they can be PSOKed just like RA hats. And they aren't that much more expensive, Chaos Vellums are 100~150m clean right now, which is actually a cheaper alternative than getting warrior RA and thief RA hats (albeit you lose out on that 5% PDR, but i'm comparing it to SW hat right now which doesn't have the 5% pdr to compare with)

[quote=Biccy15754]@Finalily I guess I didn't read closely enough. Yes, it would be better to use CRA helms then. I assume they haven't until now because the option wasn't there. It was only recently that an influx of CRA hats started dropping, and they're pretty much all vellum. SW is more accessible for poor people if they've picked it up from commerci I guess[/quote]

But SW hat is more expensive. Vellum hats go clean for 100~150m right now. Also, commerci does not drop them that often. Even if you were to get one as a drop, look at the money discrepancy. A sw hat is around 1b, whereas a Chaos Vellum hat is 100~150m, while both essentially filling the same role when paired with other SW equips. The only drawback would be in the case of item potential, where the Chaos hats can only reach 3rd tier potential, whereas SW will have 4th tier. However, this is a maximum of 3% (1% per line) with regular potential, and similar for bonus potential.

Reply June 20, 2014
oBec

@Finalily I guess I didn't read closely enough. Yes, it would be better to use CRA helms then. I assume they haven't until now because the option wasn't there. It was only recently that an influx of CRA hats started dropping, and they're pretty much all vellum. SW is more accessible for poor people if they've picked it up from commerci I guess

Reply June 20, 2014 - edited
oBec

People don't use them because they are 10x the price of RA equips and almost impossible to find. In Scania I've seen about 4 CRA hats. That's a lot of time wasted trying to buy one when you could scroll an RA one immediately. They're everywhere.

Reply June 20, 2014 - edited
AnthonysWill

They're more expensive than lv 150 RA hats.
They bind to you when equipped.
People will prefer the lv 150 RA hat instead since its cheaper.

Reply June 20, 2014 - edited
antycleax

[quote=AckarRed]No they're not.[/quote]

Yes they are.
@OT People are stupid

Reply June 20, 2014 - edited
royalrin

[quote=AckarRed]No they're not.[/quote]

er.... are you sure about that?
[url=http://maplestory.nexon.net/news/updates/update-notes/00Fe9/v-127-tempest-root-abyss-update-notes?page=2#skills]Notes?[/url]
"The hats available from the Chaos bosses have the [Joker] attribute, which allows them to substitute as a hat piece in another equipment set."

@Collee
They can fill in for any set effect, but will fill only the highest level set effect (highest item ID) which for many people can be the SW set. This provides an easy +20 att and +25 all stat from the 2 piece SW set bonus, as well as the flexibility to trade off the helmet when you are quitting (as opposed to an untradable SW helm)

Reply June 20, 2014 - edited
Collee

I thought they were only joker for the RA set?

Reply June 20, 2014 - edited
hamdeamon

[quote=AckarRed]No they're not.[/quote]
They are actually.

Reply June 20, 2014 - edited
Anthorix

*eating popcorn in mecha tank*

Reply June 20, 2014 - edited
AckarRed

[quote=royalrin]The chaos helmets are joker status, so they fill in for the set effect[/quote]

No they're not.

Reply June 20, 2014 - edited
royalrin

[quote=MrPaperMan]Because set effect.[/quote]

The chaos helmets are joker status, so they fill in for the set effect

Reply June 20, 2014 - edited
MrPaperMan

Because set effect.

Reply June 20, 2014 - edited