Disappointed in Bera and the Community
For the past month something outrageous has been going on right under our noses. Specifically in Bera. It all started about a month ago, when SwagaaStyle was purchasing accounts that "didn't receive the 12/7/13 hot time rewards" for upwards of 200 billion mesos. He was publicly asking for these accounts as they seemed to be rare. I assumed it was for an exploit, I did not think it would be this crazy. A reddit post was posted about a week ago. The poster had sold an account to him and stole it back (scamming) via customer support. The account was found to have 3500 red cubes.
This GIF was included in the post. [url=http://gyazo.com/07de1e6d12614d567ea2e5ca9aa44087]SwagaaStyles Mule.[/url]
After doing some research, I found this [url=http://maplestory.nexon.net/news/news/current/00HO3/reports-of-disappearing-hot-time-boxes]on the MapleStory website.[/url]
He obviously found a way to exploit the code and received this box an unlimited amount of times. Meaning unlimited red cubes.
He was selling access to these accounts. The word access is very important. Since these accounts had to fit certain restrictions, finding new ones was beyond difficult. He would sell the account info for a period of days or hours, the buyer would use the cubes, and never log in again. He would then sell the same account again.
To my knowledge. I know of 30 people through guild and friends who purchased these accounts to cube. These accounts were $500 USD, meaning he made $15,000 just from the people I am aware of. Not to mention the buyers in other servers. I am so disappointed in the community for taking advantage of this. This is the reason the game is dying. I remember a time when people actually valued legitimacy.
I almost feel the [b]need[/b] to post the names of everyone who bought these accounts. One of which is the leader of a VERY old and well known guild within Bera. Does the general community not care about legitimacy any more?
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@Jace: Only one was but the rest was to people in general
[quote=k3nny321]Find me a person who follows all the rules [/quote]
Nice to meet you.
@TheQueen: Ok see the way you said your quotes made it all look like it was directed solely at me.
[quote=Jace]@TheQueen: Ok still like i said how does this pertain to what i was even talking about. Ok do you want me to admit my comparison is wrong? ok yeah probably, but the point of what I posted if you read it correctly was the criticism received and given for people training to 250 and not training to 250 but still care about rankings.
What you're arguing is something completely irrelevant to what we were even discussing. You're just nitpicking one thing that wasn't even the topic being discussed if anything go read what i was discussing because obviously you didn't read it all you read was some small tidbit.[/quote]
The first time I quoted you was because I was showing/ telling you that there is an area for 200 + in KMS out and that it will come to GMS soon; and then the other person said the exp won't make a huge difference " even if you're not botting " which I then said " .. we'll just have to see how it compares and such" After that, what I said to you wasn't only directed to you (I should've made that more clear) , it was to people in general And no, I'm not quoting you to make you admit that you're wrong, when I even said "neither of us are wrong " Of course people will care about the rankings because for those who are training to reach to 250, it's a slap to our faces when a botter/ afk-er / macro-er/ people who put weight on key passes us when they're cheating( and for those who are not, they probably still care because the botters don't deserve their levels, etc); I will stop here
Saltystory
@TheQueen: Ok still like i said how does this pertain to what i was even talking about. Ok do you want me to admit my comparison is wrong? ok yeah probably, but the point of what I posted if you read it correctly was the criticism received and given for people training to 250 and not training to 250 but still care about rankings.
What you're arguing is something completely irrelevant to what we were even discussing. You're just nitpicking one thing that wasn't even the topic being discussed if anything go read what i was discussing because obviously you didn't read it all you read was some small tidbit.
@Jace: For most people who don't want to move around as much, SDH/KDH4 will probably still be better( majority of the botters will most likely still train at SDH/KDH4/FDH) , but if you don't mind that, then the new area that is coming soon might or might not give more exp "If anything it's just like Future henesys " you and I don't know if that is true or not because we haven't got the update for it yet; but from what I've seen and heard ( talked to a KMS player on twitch ) , the new area is good exp ( yes, the person knows KMS doesn't have a Kanna but GMS does) If you take a look at pages 357-358 , the KMS players shows and tells us the area is great and I will quote what they said : "New area is good. " , "Unleash da (exp) heaven " , "Still hoping this will be the place to be in GMS " --->"Yes, it will be "and " This map is a godsend With the right resources (x2 exp, Kanna etc) you will be leveling fast" Of course, we don't know for certain how it will turn out for GMS, so neither of us are wrong [url=http://www.southperry.net/showthread.php?t=126&page=357]Source[/url] My point is that both of us don't know for certain that it will be like another " Future henesys " for GMS , we just have to wait and find out when it comes to GMS
@TheQueen: But still what does that have to do with anything. If anything you proved my point and furthered my argument.
[quote=Axnslicer]Because, you know, it's cheating. Aside from the very obvious moral issues, you're also screwing over everyone who plays the game by the rules. Thousands of exploited cubes? Well all that gear people spent money cubing legitimately is now devalued. Botting to 250? That's poisoning the rankings for people who train legitimately, of which there are admittedly very few.
Do you know how depressing it is for players to look at the top 100 ranking players and realize that 90+ of them are botters?
I'm also not saying hackers/dupers/exploiters/botters are bad people. I realize that, at the end of the day, MS is a game and different people have different goals. And relatively speaking, even the worst hackers in MS are generally less harmful than serial murderers. I'm just saying that actions have consequences, and that these particular ones have negative consequences for legitimate players.[/quote]
I'm pretty sure its against the tos to buy mesos, sell/buy nx for mesos, and to buy items for money. I guess all the people who do that which is 95% of maplestory are all cheating. Find me a person who follows all the rules
Minecraft Coders are better than Maplestory's coders
[quote=Jace]@TheQueen: And what's your point telling me this?[/quote]
That there is an area for 200+ coming to GMS and to you , specially, it shouldn't matter that much since you're almost 250 anyways ( unless you're planning on leveling other characters). For the most part, SDH/ KD4 will probably still be better.
@TheQueen: And what's your point telling me this?
@Jace: Even if they did make an area for 230+, they wouldn't make the mobs give a large amount of exp so everybody can level up quickly. Honestly, GMS players shouldn't complain about exp ; especially when we have kanna, beast tamer, had so many 2x exp events, etc. I'm sure they will make more areas once 5th job is done and contents related to it. Leveling wasn't meant to be easy ; if you don't like to train / training is not your thing, then don't train, simple as that.
@TheQueen: To what extent. From what i've seen it goes up to only level 220s. What about 230+ lol. If anything it's just like Future henesys.
@iElmo: People will for sure test things out ; we'll just have to see how it compares and such.
[quote=TheQueen][url=http://orangemushroom.net/2015/01/14/kms-ver-1-2-227-maple-ice-burn-mechanical-grave/]"Mechanical Grave is designed for users level 200 and higher. It is accessible through a new cable car in Edelstein Trails 4, or by using the taxi in Edelstein"[/url][/quote]
To be honest, I'll probably never be using the new maps. The exp increase when compared to drill hall isn't that much and the convenience of a flat map (even if you're not botting) is much easier than traveling up and down a map, especially with kishin. I don't remember but I think someone mentioned that kms does not have Kannas so this map is somewhat better for then to train in due to the spawn.
[quote=Jace]@Axnslicer: For the record my post was to the Original Post'er,
It's funny how you say it's screwing people over because from what i've seen, this "devaluing," is actually benefiting those who are legit also. All those 4% stat nebs and boss dmg nebs also i'm pretty sure aren't legit either. If anything the people who play this game don't come to this game with the goal of making real life money or profiting if anything they're playing the game because it's a GAME. Your argument is making the claim that because people are using exploited cubes it's devaluing the items that people cube with real cubes, well then why bother spending so much on real cubes then why not just buy the item that's already been cubed, in fact it's most likely cheaper purchasing it from certain people rather than making your own. In fact the buyers wont even be able to tell what cubes were used on what because in the end it doesn't matter because the buyer will get the stats they want the seller will get the money they want.
Also I have no idea why you're bringing up "botting to 250" in this context but you're claiming it's "depressing... for players to look at the top 100." First let me just add I don't ever recall nexon releasing any level 210+ content yet. I remember nexon specifically stating they're not even putting level 210+ content as a priority. Levels mean absolutely nothing, why am I the level I am? Because there's nothing left for me in this game to do other than level. For people who want to gain "fame" from leveling that's on them and how they do it is on them. Of course everyone is going to get criticized for how they level. Also don't tell me "because they're botters that's how they hit 250" show me a person training who has a Kanna using kishin and isn't afk.
I got a little bit side-tracked but on your statement of "depressing" if they have a mental issue of that level just because someone is wasting energy leveling up to the max level, frankly I don't even understand why they're even playing a game in the first place when they should be getting treatment.
I personally don't involve myself with exploits or purchasing the services from the exploiters but from what i've seen, all my unfunded friends, have benefited off of the many exploits, hacks, etc that many people have taken advantage of and spread throughout the servers I haven' seen any of them complain about prices going down in fact they praise the fact that prices go down because it allows their thin wallets to be of some use to them in terms of funding themselves.[/quote]
[url=http://orangemushroom.net/2015/01/14/kms-ver-1-2-227-maple-ice-burn-mechanical-grave/]"Mechanical Grave is designed for users level 200 and higher. It is accessible through a new cable car in Edelstein Trails 4, or by using the taxi in Edelstein"[/url]
Why did i not even know about this >.< I'm weak af
Did you send a ticket to Nexon support? This seems to be missing from your cloud of disappointment.
@Axnslicer: For the record my post was to the Original Post'er,
It's funny how you say it's screwing people over because from what i've seen, this "devaluing," is actually benefiting those who are legit also. All those 4% stat nebs and boss dmg nebs also i'm pretty sure aren't legit either. If anything the people who play this game don't come to this game with the goal of making real life money or profiting if anything they're playing the game because it's a GAME. Your argument is making the claim that because people are using exploited cubes it's devaluing the items that people cube with real cubes, well then why bother spending so much on real cubes then why not just buy the item that's already been cubed, in fact it's most likely cheaper purchasing it from certain people rather than making your own. In fact the buyers wont even be able to tell what cubes were used on what because in the end it doesn't matter because the buyer will get the stats they want the seller will get the money they want.
Also I have no idea why you're bringing up "botting to 250" in this context but you're claiming it's "depressing... for players to look at the top 100." First let me just add I don't ever recall nexon releasing any level 210+ content yet. I remember nexon specifically stating they're not even putting level 210+ content as a priority. Levels mean absolutely nothing, why am I the level I am? Because there's nothing left for me in this game to do other than level. For people who want to gain "fame" from leveling that's on them and how they do it is on them. Of course everyone is going to get criticized for how they level. Also don't tell me "because they're botters that's how they hit 250" show me a person training who has a Kanna using kishin and isn't afk.
I got a little bit side-tracked but on your statement of "depressing" if they have a mental issue of that level just because someone is wasting energy leveling up to the max level, frankly I don't even understand why they're even playing a game in the first place when they should be getting treatment.
I personally don't involve myself with exploits or purchasing the services from the exploiters but from what i've seen, all my unfunded friends, have benefited off of the many exploits, hacks, etc that many people have taken advantage of and spread throughout the servers I haven' seen any of them complain about prices going down in fact they praise the fact that prices go down because it allows their thin wallets to be of some use to them in terms of funding themselves.
[quote=Jace]Lol why're you criticizing someone who plays the game the way they do, they don't criticize you if anything they don't care about you so stop trippin.[/quote]
Because, you know, it's cheating. Aside from the very obvious moral issues, you're also screwing over everyone who plays the game by the rules. Thousands of exploited cubes? Well all that gear people spent money cubing legitimately is now devalued. Botting to 250? That's poisoning the rankings for people who train legitimately, of which there are admittedly very few.
Do you know how depressing it is for players to look at the top 100 ranking players and realize that 90+ of them are botters?
I'm also not saying hackers/dupers/exploiters/botters are bad people. I realize that, at the end of the day, MS is a game and different people have different goals. And relatively speaking, even the worst hackers in MS are generally less harmful than serial murderers. I'm just saying that actions have consequences, and that these particular ones have negative consequences for legitimate players.
Why are people bashing at the whole Bera community? I didn't even know this was happening till i read this >.<
I didnt know severs even had communities. This game is all solo play. 3 months in and made 0 friends cause i require no friends.
Post the names please
There have been many Bera issue threads on the forums as of late...here are two from today...
[url=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2874797/0/Warning_TengokuNoUta.html]link[/url]
[url=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2874780]link[/url]
Lol why're you criticizing someone who plays the game the way they do, they don't criticize you if anything they don't care about you so stop trippin.
Lol here i am looking for cubes from bosses, hopefully one per day. There is a bit of saltiness, but dammm, that hacker did his homework, not that it was moral or anything.
Post the names
Dam, Bera's like the new Scania. So much drama, duping, scamming.
[quote=SillyMule]Does the general community not care about legitimacy any more?[/quote]
2nd chance
that other 2nd chance
bounty hunter 2nd chance
Even the owners of MapleStory don't care about legitimacy anymore
You know what, i don't like that he does that, but honestly, give him props, he's smart for taking advantage of information he knows.
It's not just Bera, it's the community in general
dont talk crap bout my server dawg
They will continue exploiting the game for easy $$$ until Nexon learns to code properly.
the general public stopped caring about legitimacy about 4? 5? years ago
just look at how many people bot ("afk train" )
play the game for yourself, don't compare to other people
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzQDBCwQg5M
too late for this crap
no one cares anyhow b/c it's been like this in different variations
Why are you disappointed with Bera and the community? Nexon needs to be laying down the law. People will always be exploiting games until the end of time. It's up to the people in charge to take care of it.
Post the names and lets turn this into chaosssssss woooohoooo!
But wow, shame on these people.
Edit: Wait, how do you know everyone who had access to the account?
The general community seem to have discarded legitimacy long ago, sadly. People now have their own definitions of what is "legit" and such. Dumb as F, but what can a few men do against many..