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I ks a lvl 97 db on my 125 dk with luck xD at gallos 0.o I spam rush, he got mad, then luckily he died, he came back, bishop friend came, bye db.

Lv 126 Hero vs Lv 100 DB at Gallos.
:S

Yeah... I think I lost.

i've ksed dbs really well when they try to ks me. (well, this is at himes)
I just use final charge to move the monsters away from their pretty little flying attack thingy, So the mob they tried to kill, becomes mine.
Idk if they're more skilled at ksing than what i've experienced, but i don't really care. KSing to steal your map is inconsiderate.

DBs are fairly easy to ks. idk how but I just somehow do it.
I've had arans ks me before at gallos, it was terrible with their polar bear thing and other attacks. But he was chased out because it was 2v1 (bf was afk)
If all else fails, bring in a bishop friend!

Blargh just summon WhiteCrayola to defend your map!

[quote=SilverFoxR]You need to find maps you can tank monsters in (maybe it'd be best to ignore berzerk for now and go to Skeles).

A map that has a large crowd of monsters that do significant damage is pretty much a warrior haven. Not many classes can KS you there.
Also... Galloperas... and you DIDN'T expect to be KSed? That's pretty much the worst map in the game for KSing![/quote]

To be honest the only classes that can fully ks me there are ultimate mages, and DBs. Ultimate mages are not seen as frequently as Dual BLades, so yeah. :C

You need to find maps you can tank monsters in (maybe it'd be best to ignore berzerk for now and go to Skeles).

A map that has a large crowd of monsters that do significant damage is pretty much a warrior haven. Not many classes can KS you there.

Also... Galloperas... and you DIDN'T expect to be KSed? That's pretty much the worst map in the game for KSing!

I doubt mechanics/ Wild Hunters are gonna be as annoying to Warriors than DBs, as both of those classes are slower.

To be honest maple is still algud. sorry if ur getin KSed but know this when u g boss runs. ull be the 1st 1 to get picked over a dualblade. dualblade cnt do good damge at bosses. cuz they cant use 1 of there skill lOL in boss maps.
which suk cuz wats the point ull do less damage.

warriors r the best to go boss with

[quote=coconuthead826]lmao arans can....arans combat step at the edge of the incline at gallos brings you across the map. on top of that, arans can hit both upper and lower platform. On top of that we can also rush with final charge. On top of that final toss acts like an anti air canon. I remember a db was once ksing an aran. db used a fj like move but aran tossed the gallows on the air. Db was hit with gallos in air and died lmao. but rememebr, its the individual, not the class.[/quote]

Yes but when many individuals do stupid things people start to generalize
Same thing in real life

[quote=freshpine]The only class that can [b]try[/b] to ks dbs back is nls. Just because of flash jump and ranged skills....has anyone tried this?[/quote]

Mages ultimates?

Don't generalize all db's as ks machines, it's the person. If db's weren't out and the dude was on a mage instead, same scenario.

sudden raid aint weak ass the one thats weak ass its the db with weakass range using it

[quote=thinkfast7]why arent you at skeles to begin with? i've been training at skeles since lv.. 93? and im killing fast and leveling fast.[/quote]

I get 1 hit ko'd by laser in Skeles if I try to use Zerk, while Gallos is easy to use it at. I trained in Skeles for 112-123 anyways.

I know some DBs can be really annoying, and to ks them (not just for that ofcourse ), I made my own DB!

Use your dragon roar to punish them

Umm, Hi, I'm an Archmage. I have Blizzard. I can ks EVERYTHING IN THE DAMN WORLD. Hai!

they cant ks us at bossin just rush that thing right into em :]

@orangeking11: Yea, I guess Tornado Corridor was built for Dual Blades.

[quote=itDontMAtter]I can't even out-KS a DB, and I'm a hermit.[/quote]

Hermits/NLs aren't great ks'ers in general. We're only very good at picking off players that are in the wrong places (BMs/Sairs vs BF at Evil Dead, Warriors trying to fight monsters they can't take hits from, DBs at COGs either using the wrong pots or can't take the hits, etc.). xD

[quote=Gino]Only 3rd job f/p's and 4th job mages can ks db's for now. Don't worry, they'll get super nerfed after the big bang patch.[/quote]

DBs are hard to ks because of their mobility. Is that going away after BB? Didn't think so.

im not sure my drk was lvl 128 and was ksing a db easily

I can't even out-KS a DB, and I'm a hermit.

night walkers can ks dbs using vampire

[quote=huevix]Dual Blades will pay soon or later... but they will pay... just like Dexless sins will do...[/quote]

I don't really see anything pointing to that. Explain. xD

I agree with DBs not getting nerfed, but they're definitely not gonna be as powerful in relative to other classes as compared to now when the Big Bang comes around. But their mobbing will still be fantastic (the same situation is actually shaping up that way for all 3 Thief Explorer branches, seeing they all get spectacular mobbing boosts, but on 1v1, unless we have Criticals figured wrong, none of them are stacking up to be top 5 on single target output potential. That's a noticeable drop from being #1 solo DPM potential for DBs). xD

[quote=xbladerFTW]Well now that ive silenced gino and prestige i can deal with the winers.... lucky me.
If your all so pissed about dual bladers ksing you then make one or quit. Apparently you all think nexon comes here and reads your "Dual blades have to go" threads/posts and say "Woah thats a good idea!" As for the people who say that they can ks any dual blader, well good for you. I guess you have to do somthing to feel good about yourselves.[/quote]

Chill dude 0_o
They're just a little pissed at some idiots ksing them.

EDIT: I'm not saying all DB's are idiots. Just SOME.

[quote=BadBwaiX]Archmages can
Specifically I/L.
I mean I've done it countless times.
Idiots think their faster, ha, ha, ha, ha.[/quote]

Muahahaha

[quote=xbladerFTW]@above
If that keeps you from cutting yourself then so be it....[/quote]

why so much hate and arrogance in your words?

why cant you people love and get along?

so no one respects the unwritten rules of maple anymore?

its ok... if you really hate dbs.. open up few black sacks for each ch @ the place where they get their job advancements, then they can never become KSBlades

ugh, I'm pissed by this too. I'm not complaining about dbs at all, i think they are awesome, but people REALLY need to stop abusing their skills to ks people. It's childish and annoying.

Lol. i had a db friend ks another db today F3 Fun stuff

Use an AoE. If your going to kill the monster w/ the attack, no matter how slow, it can NOT be attacked by other classes UNLESS there is left over hp >_>; so Dragon's Roar=Win

well on my wind archer i was able to ks back some 80+ dbs with AR, Windpiercing, and stormbreak

[quote=ranbir34]just quit dbs ruined the game[/quote]
I ruined the game by helping out tons of people get along in maplestory?
O-O
OTrobably not

[quote=blank92]just wait till later, when they are yelling at you for HB! HB! HB! and you can reply, THORNS, YOU CHOCH! D[/quote]

survivability>damage
when they go "OMG LOOK EPIC DMG I BEAT YOU!"
you can rush BF into them and laugh

I've KS'd DB's before ^_^
Only Bigfoot wise though =)

I ks DB's all the time, but I'm a dawn warrior and that doesn't really count.

[quote=BlameTruth]Did you know in FlyFF, Phykeepers get a move that launches monsters? Its literally like a cannon that just shoots them into the distance. The best thing is, it can also launch away other players.[/quote]

.... two different games. the best thing is, flyff has pvp and that's the only time that this skill will work on another player. and any skill can launch a monster, any normal attack can. and there's no ksing in flyff. so yeah.

I can KS DB's, whenever I get a Gallos map, they know not to come and KS me.
The only class that can ks me within a reasonable range, are Bishops.

[quote=BrickTheHun]The only chances we have at that are probably HH, Roar, lolShout, and maybe even Rush.[/quote]

More like RoflLolLmaoShout.

>_>

Wait till your start BFing , you'll be a ksing machine!

I had a couple of DBs try to KS me on the ONE day I wanted to Gallos but they failed because I can deal a chunk of
damage on the mobs even with 30 combo. Combat Step makes it a lot easier to move around.

Dual Blades will pay soon or later... but they will pay... just like Dexless sins will do...

But overall dont trip about the DBs they are just a faster mobbing class and its hard to compete with them unless you can match their power and speed

LOLs i remember a DB coming to my ch and i just rushed them into the her/him and he/she died. Another time this DB tried to ks and i just two hit the gallos and the DB kept missing the monsters.

With flying assaulter + tornado spin, my db would easily ks my 137 drk...and my drk can 1-hit gallos too

i've been able to counter ks dual bladers at jesters, windraiders and typhons with ease, i imagine gallos are a different story though

Hey blargh! id say icarus cape 2 + 14 speed snowshoes + other speed gears and u'll be on 140 speed and you can try to out ks dbs

I ksed a db When we had a ks war over an hh with my nw. It was funny cause he would spam fatalblow and a row of misses would fly up on my screen.

[quote=freshpine]The only class that can [b]try[/b] to ks dbs back is nls. Just because of flash jump and ranged skills....has anyone tried this?[/quote]

Wrong. I can ks too, depending on the maps. I one hit gallos, and a DB has tried to ks me there and failed. o_o
When it comes to mini-bosses I can just go on my NL and kill a HH fast enough if needed if a DB tries to ks. If it's a bigfoot, rush them, not all of them are HP washed.

I don't know why you expect to be able to KS them. Flying Assaulter and Bloody Storm won't LET you. Their damage isn't the main issue, its their insane mobility. They can rush a mob away from you better than you can. If you rush one way, they could easily catch the next mob before you're done. FJ and FA would see to that.