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What Do You Want From A Shadower Update?

So under the assumption that all adventurers will get some sort of buff in the ongoing rebalancing of classes, what do you want?

I want a faster BS (decreased delay in exchange for lower % damage), more %PDR from instinct, higher % for CE amongst other things.

April 14, 2013

48 Comments • Newest first

RudyXD

Nothing at all, just give us unlimited patch..

Reply April 15, 2013
Medulan

[quote=Cystom]Some people suggested a new 1v1 move at 4th job... any ideas for that?
TBH Nate looks like a great damage dealer especially after unlimited but on bosses that move... I just find it hard to use.[/quote]

What I typically do on moving bosses that I cannot KB w/ Assassinate (or on bosses that I am KBing but they are not pinned yet) is I allow the last hit of Nate to happen when the monster seems to be moving too far away in order to mini-dash closer to it.

Reply April 15, 2013
Cystom

Some people suggested a new 1v1 move at 4th job... any ideas for that?
TBH Nate looks like a great damage dealer especially after unlimited but on bosses that move... I just find it hard to use.

Reply April 15, 2013
Oshawott

[quote=iYanMe]Make meso explode a passive skill. Something like, "Mesos from pickpocket have a 50% chance of exploding when you attack"[/quote]

Wouldn't be OP at all! lool

Reply April 15, 2013
Bobjon

[quote=jhordsin]CRIT %! and less delay[/quote]

We already get +50% Crit with Flip of the Coin

Personally, I think Shads are quite sufficient the way they are. The only things I'd like to see would be to fix SS so you can actually see the screen, and to bring back Assaulter. It was an extremely helpful mobility tool.

Reply April 15, 2013
SeeBee007

@simaini: hey that doesn't sound dumb, it's pretty great actually. Bringing back a skill all shads loved to death but also changing nate's ugly animation + delay lol

Reply April 15, 2013
SoulWarrior

I want all of our original skills back:
- BoT
- Assaulter
- Chakra
- "BStep"
plus SP & FJ - so basically everything we had in [url=http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStory-Guide-Bandit-Guide-346.html#BB]Big Bang[/url]

but with the %damage boosts we got in the Renegades update. No "BStab" animation change ("BStep" will always be better), no smokescreen blinding, etc.

Reply April 15, 2013 - edited
simaini

[quote=SeeBee007]I want Assassinate to live up to its name >.<[/quote]

Personally, I think assassinate would have been a more appropriate name for assaulter instead of assaulter.
This might sound stupid, but I think it would be cool if nexon combined assaulter and assassinate. It would still be called assassinate, but instead of having that ugly slap slap dash animation, it would be like assaulter. The damage will be the same as the regular assassinate, including the multipliers from dark sight and shadower instinct, but it would work like assaulter. So basically, it's assaulter with assassinate's damage and its ability to be cast in dark sight. Think about it, hiding in the shadows with dark sight and then bam!, assassinated
Sounds pretty stupid but I think it's cool And, it would give shadowers even more invincibility frames <3

Reply April 15, 2013 - edited
DeeeMon

I wish our damage lines were straight again, it was neat and tidy.

Reply April 15, 2013 - edited
iDivideZer0

@BurritoMan: [url=http://orangemushroom.wordpress.com/2013/03/08/march-update-preview/#more-5941]http://orangemushroom.wordpress.com/2013/03/08/march-update-preview/#more-5941[/url]

[i]"Next is the 2013 Job Balancing Season 1! This will be the beginning of changes to everyone, who will be first? Find out on March 21! Hopefully this means Adventurers will be receiving the updates they deserve! All the new classes are so much better... "[/i]

This means nothing then

Reply April 15, 2013 - edited
hirrho

@Oshawott: Sadly, I have to agree with you. They'd have to tweak it a bit to make it more efficient.

Reply April 15, 2013 - edited
daeyun

[quote=BurritoMan]KMS never said they were rebalancing "all classes", so there's nothing that they have to "keep their word" for.[/quote]

Yea don't trust Nexon to do it even if KMS does

Reply April 15, 2013 - edited
iDivideZer0

[quote=dexlesspibb]lol we get revamped? woahhh L>Link[/quote]

Nope, but eventually cause KMS announced that they are rebalancing all classes, they only did merc and phant so far and they kinda went off on a tangent by releasing the revamp for Soul Masters (Dawn warriors). Hoping that they would keep their word or actually remember, we should be getting a revamp soon unless they decide to finish the Cygnus knight revamps first or if they decide to rebalance all the other classes before us.
This thread is basically just asking for the shadower community's opinion on what needs to be changed, not that any of it would really matter since KMS doesn't take suggestions from its players (especially GMS players), I'm assuming.

Reply April 15, 2013 - edited
DarkQuill

Assaulter and BoT, obviously.
Boomerang Stab changed back to Boomerang Step, because I said so.
All Hyper Skills for Step also includes the skills it already passively boosts.
And some stuff other people have already mentioned, like fixing the cast time on Haste, the broken effect on Smokescreen, and the speed reduction from Dark Sight.

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
roy5577

-Make Steal a bit stronger
-Make Secondary weapons apply to Shield Mastery
-Triple jump (another jump in Flash Jump)
-Make Midnight Carnival stronger
-Make Dark Flare Stronger and a wider range
-Make mesos from Pickpocket "fake" (can't pick them up) and a bit transparent (boy, I had to think hard on this one)
-Put all hits in Assassinate in one "Assaulter-like" movement through one enemy
-Tiny bit stronger B-Step and more enemies hit
-A little more avoid in Shadow Shifter
-Transparent Smokescreen
-Faster and different ultimate that Sudden Raid... were not Dual Blades
So I wasn't creative about the revamp... hey, Mercedes and Phantom basically got something like this!

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
iYanMe

Make meso explode a passive skill. Something like, "Mesos from pickpocket have a 50% chance of exploding when you attack"

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
numanasap

i want shads to be faster (like maybe 10% faster) i want them to make lv180 eqps set, thats easy to obtain, 1 set per char and untradeble comes unique, that'll deffinatly put a curve in the market and deflate meso value, haxors wont tin this one

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
FireOwl95

i would want more % damage on carnival or new 4th job 1v1 skill.

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
will0700

get rid of PD and bring back BoT
fix Smokescreen
is that too much to ask for...

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
Oshawott

[quote=hirrho]I don't give a flying crap what we get unless it's Assulter as a Hyper skill.[/quote]

As much as I love assaulter. I don't think it has any use in the game other than very specific mobility situations..

OT: I don't think there is any real buff required especially as it is very difficult maybe even impossible to beat assassinate post unlimited. Perhaps some 2nd job enhancements or change meso explode to kb in the direction facing?

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
BimmieMcGee

Make the buff times shorter and bring Assaulter back!

Man...My Shadower feels so slow with those buffs, and Assaulter was just a ton of fun. RIP

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
Toscox

Bring assaulter back! and I shall play my shadower again.

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
Jasonbird1

step faster, nate new animations, wider spread and a little clearer screen, and just a little bit more in coin toss

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
AquaBoogieXD

Nexon can keep Assaulter. It was garbage and nostalgia is the only reason people want it back. What Shads need is for Smokescreen's animation to be less opaque and for BS and Nate not to cap as easily. Another attack that uses Body Counts would be nice, preferably a mob skill. Also when ME goes off, it'd be nice if the coins closest to the boss go off as opposed to the oldest coins. Bosses that move a lot make ME near useless.

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
SeeBee007

[quote=minchuzuk3]You want more? Isn't top 5 DPS good enough?[/quote]

No it's not because we can barely compete with DBs like yourself

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
Rogue

You want more? Isn't top 5 DPS good enough?

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
hirrho

[quote=Cystom]@inemnitable: Oh that's a shame.
@hirrho Yeah I'd really like Assaulter back...
@numanasap I hope not [/quote]
I really miss it It was our Only real mobility.

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
daeyun

[quote=inemnitable]That's way too broken. You could have the worst equips ever and kill literally ANY boss in under 2 minutes.[/quote]

True that. I forgot to include 3 tries per monster
Edited Version: 40% chance of dealing triple damage for the last hit (so SP hit wud be 210% dmg instead of 70% dmg) or 3% chance of auto-kill for reg monsters (including LHC and SH and HOH), and 3% chance of reducing hp by 1/5th for boss monster (5 tries per monster). Wud that b better?

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
NoonSsa

Delete the last hit of assasinate make assasinate spammable and able to mutiply dmg while using dark sight ( in kms instead of mutiplying it adds. )

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
daeyun

Maybe 30% more dmg on MC, Like a 15% chance of dealing 1000% more dmg or a 3% chance of reducing hp by half (for bosses) for assassinate, and make bstep a little bit more faster (or stronger). Also, giv us BoT back.

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
WakeMeIPlan

nothing because shadowers are perfect in every way possible

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
svt125

Something that doesn't just make Assassinate look like tiny miniscule ripples that seem to just be recolored regular attack effects.

Although Boomerang Step could be faster, I get the feeling they really wanted a chain mechanic in there, although it's not as seamless as the new Thunder Breakers.

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
DeeeMon

I want Assassinate to look like[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci1iUHHD5Uc]this.[/url]

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
iDrinkOJ

Assaulter and BoT back,
Get rid of this phase dash and steal crap
More avoid
Bring chakra back
Up ME damage

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
iDivideZer0

[quote=AKTheSavage]I want our smoke screen fixed, and our buff duration's back to how they used to be, im tired of being immobile for 5 seconds after getting dispelled trying to recast haste and meso guard and shadow partner...Anything else is cake, but not needed IMO.[/quote]

Smokescreen was already fixed in KMS, it just wasn't applied in GMS

[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoCGFwObD_U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoCGFwObD_U[/url]
Go to 2:52, it was already fixed when it came out of KMST, GMS just got the KMST version that's all

They need to fix the DS problem of over riding haste, I hate it how I have to haste each time I DS. Cast time of buffs need to be decreased (or back to how it was)

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
aznDitness

%dmg increase to MC, less delay on BStep and Nate, bring back BoT and Assaulter, or give Phase Dash the ability to climb up to high platforms like Assaulter.

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
xxpandaxx

I want the old Smoke Screen back, that purple ugly bubble fog is annoying and you can't see crap

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
eYeGoTChA

shads seem fine as is. we always seemed fine as is

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
numanasap

arent we getting nerfed?

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
AKTheSavage

I want our smoke screen fixed, and our buff duration's back to how they used to be, im tired of being immobile for 5 seconds after getting dispelled trying to recast haste and meso guard and shadow partner...Anything else is cake, but not needed IMO.

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
jhordsin

CRIT %! and less delay

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
hirrho

I don't give a flying crap what we get unless it's Assulter as a Hyper skill.

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
iDivideZer0

[quote=Cystom]Also, am I the only one who thinks that the old Assassinate animation is actually superior to the current one in that it looks a lot slicker?[/quote]

Nope, I too liked the old nate animation better

Needs more damage for MC, a better mob attack for 3rd job, another unique meso related skill, and assaulter back, or at least a toggle skill to change lolspellheim's rush into an assaulter or something similar

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
Cystom

Also, am I the only one who thinks that the old Assassinate animation is actually superior to the current one in that it looks a lot slicker?

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
SkyBreak

Decrease skill delay, bring assualter back, nice avoid as db.

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
SeeBee007

I want Assassinate to live up to its name >.<

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited
minipokemon

definately more %dmg on carnival, decrease delay on bs and assassinate, or even have a new, better and faster 1v1 move at 4th job... and better mobbing skills at 2nd and 3rd job and bring back assaulter

Reply April 14, 2013 - edited