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Children pls stop arguing.

Waltzing has confirmed that "Untradeable versions of both will be available in limited quantities per character. ".

http://maplestory.nexon.net/community/#%2Fshowthread.php%3F1418809-Need-clarification-on-scroll%28s%29-in-the-10th-anniversary-shop%2Fpage2%26nxid%3D6

Now don't you feel silly...

[quote=Flya]Why not both? [/quote]

Winner, winner! Tacos for you.

[quote=BankaiSensei]You do more than offer an opinion. You discredit other people's opinions.[/quote]

By calling it silly and repeating over and over I could be wrong and am just speculating?

I'm sorry I was a bit tongue and cheek and over the top with the presentation of my opinions...I've never had an issue with that before on any forum that I've used. I expected the discussion to be a friendly light hearted give and take given the nature of the forum - the discussion of Maplestory. I was not aware people would be intensely hyper literal and cut throat regarding a subject as mundane as this.

[quote=AshleyAttacked]I just cannot fathom how this has gone from just speculating and having a fun give and take to something more akin to a jury depostion.

This is not a serious matter.
I'm just explaining why I'm hopeful and think others should be too. Period.[/quote]

You do more than offer an opinion. You discredit other people's opinions.

Poor @AshleyAttacked x______x

lmfao.

I got secondhand embarassment reading this thread.

Ashley, please move on.. with your life. Everyday we see your damn pixel head in every thread arguing.. Find something better to do, holy sht.

@AshleyAttacked: is cake/pie really that good anymore? i know before back in like 3rd or w/e anni it was that they were first introduced it took forever to kill..

[quote=AshleyAttacked]I just cannot fathom how this has gone from just speculating and having a fun give and take to something more akin to a jury depostion.

This is not a serious matter.
I'm just explaining why I'm hopeful and think others should be too. Period.[/quote]

I don't intend to be rude. Not very many people have the connections or funding that you do. Lots of people have been playing and putting in a lot of effort, but haven't seen results; partly due to how normal content available to everyone doesn't provide suitable rewards (bar gollux). RA is too hard for most of the population; same with magnus, and a lot of others.

From this perspective and being on the side of being mediocre-ly funded, I can understand why the topic can get heated so quickly. Primes are only available to the people that can afford the really high price tag at the moment, and for the best scroll in the game to be available to everyone is a really big deal to many, many people (myself included).

The text on the site did say "9th Anniversary scrolls". To be honest, that's all the OP said too. xD

The regular 9th 60% scrolls have been in the past events recently: the treasure hunt, and the rainbow box event. I'm leaning towards primes not being available and remaining a NX-obtainable item, though I do still hope that they'll be in the shop. It would be an enourmous help for me, and lots of others.

It really is Nexon though, so whatever decision we find out they've made will tell us their true colours on whether or not they're trying to lessen the pay-to-win aspect as they claim.

rip thread. i once loved you. 2015-2015

@AshleyAttacked I just don't know what to say... Yes you are right about being 9th Anniversary having the prime scrolls, but that was last anni. A guy posted a picture a few post backs proving this comparing the 2 scrolls. Forgot what post but ne of the few posts in the last 5 hours from when I posted this.

1-3 events back, they gave those treasure boxes which contained 9th anniversary scrolls. Originally, when you check the info, it only said "9th anni scrolls" but which later got changed to being more specific.
http://maplestory.nexon.net/news/updates/update-notes/00IHg/updated-v-159-maplestory-x-attack-on-titan-update-notes#treasure

Currently from what we know, we are 100% guaranteed to get those 5-6Attack scrolls and all. Prime is still in question if they release it or not. It is exactly as @Lecarde stated abut the Prime scrolls.

BTW: Nice ign.... How much did you pay for it or were you a super old character that came back to Maple and made an AB using it?

EDIT: It seems i got ninja'ed by @KingAustin

[quote=AshleyAttacked]For having a different opinion on how the signs should be interpreted? Difference in opinion isn't allowed?

It's my opinion that Nexon knows how expectant everyone is for Primes that they wouldn't just toss around the term '9th Anniversary Scrolls' unless they meant what they know everyone is hoping they mean - Primes. I think the signs indicate they will release all 9th Anniversary Scrolls. Why is that getting everyone so worked up?[/quote]

Too lazy/tired to read through the rest of the pages, so sorry if this has already been addressed. But there are 9th anniversary Prime scrolls and 9th anniversary scrolls. But they are different scrolls. The 9th anniversary Prime scrolls are what you want back, the 9th anniversary scrolls give +5/6 stat/attack per scroll at a 60% rate. These were what dropped from the treasure map event when Nexon specifically stated "9th anniversary scrolls" as a possible reward, so we have precedent that shows Nexon means these scrolls when they use "9th anniversary scrolls".

I agree with you, Nexon knows how many people are going ape**** crazy over Prime scrolls. So they would have specified, 9th anniversary [I]Prime scrolls[/I] if those were going to be in the shop instead of the other scrolls.

This is all pointless lol. Just wait until the 10th anniversary comes, and we can all see for ourselves. Its ok to predict and all, but its not when you claim something to be true without 100% solid proof. Knowing nexon, its almost impossible to tell what they say is true. Not until the time comes. You know they make typos most of the time right?..

Well that was a fun read
I'm hoping the prime scrolls do appear , but looking at how Nexon always finds a way to disappoint I'm not that open minded about this o_o.

WE ALL WANT SOME MORE RANGE! WOO HOO! <3

@AshleyAttacked:
Maybe some people can't handle your vocabulary and proper grammar. Who knows?

[quote=ChrisJohnson]@AshleyAttacked:
Yes of course this isn't a serious matter. Yet, you came off (I believe) stronger than you intended to. Rather than making your statements concrete without credible proof to back up your claim, you resorted to preach your "opinions" as if they were the absolute truth. Now that there is proof of the other type of 9th anniversary scrolls, the whole thing is settled. You were wrong, plain and simple.[/quote]
I realize now that's how people took things...I just don't see why they would read speculation regarding maplestory with such a serious tone. It's just something fun and lighthearted. If I came across as condescending or arrogant that's a total misreading of my intended tone and not something I would have expected to be an issue on Basilmarket...

[quote=AshleyAttacked]I checked last years announcement and it also never mentioned Prime scrolls, it just had an image of the generic 9th Anniversary scroll.[/quote]

this is probably the strongest evidence you have to your claim, well, in conjunction with some of the other stuff you said about what the smart thing to do is for nexon.
there will be primes, i believe it, why did no one else mention how nexon didn't state primes in last years event description?

@AshleyAttacked:
Yes of course this isn't a serious matter. Yet, you came off (I believe) stronger than you intended to. Rather than making your statements concrete with credible proof to back up your claim, you resorted to preach your "opinions" as if they were the absolute truth. Now that there is proof of the other type of 9th anniversary scrolls, the whole thing is settled. You were wrong, plain and simple.

Yes yes my plan is working... Humans are turning on each other fer de natural resources known as scrulls... yesss...

[quote=ChrisJohnson]@AshleyAttacked

Yet again I see you preaching false and ignorant statements..

"There's only one scroll associated with the 9th anniversary. There's no reason Nexon would make a new scroll and give it the name '9th anniversary'...if they were to create something similar in that vein it would be a 10th anniversary scroll. But it's not. It's the 9th anniversary scroll which means only one thing - prime. Just do a simple owl search for '9th'...there is not and never was another scroll called 9th anniversary that wasn't a prime."

^ You have no qualifier in your statement. You are stating that there are no other scrolls associated with the 9th anniversary (which there are).

"I just can't get my mind around why everyone is so hung up about their being a conspiracy involving prime scrolls. This is just getting silly.

The evidence is completely leaning in the direction of Primes being rereleased. To deny that is just bizarre."

^ Your "opinion" is to shoot everyone else's opinion and share yours as if it were the truth, and nothing but the truth.

Take it easy; it's not like you're all-knowing in every subject of this game. If someone corrects you, why are you trying to justify your own claim by shooting theirs down? And you wonder why people are arguing back.[/quote]
I just cannot fathom how this has gone from just speculating and having a fun give and take to something more akin to a jury depostion.

This is not a serious matter.
I'm just explaining why I'm hopeful and think others should be too. Period.

@everyone here [url=http://imgur.com/sQjhsQ8,7MH7tWv#0][/url] these are both the 9th scrolls. At this point I do hope, and kinda expect primes to be out simply because its the 10th Ani. But honestly it could not happen. Who knows~

We should just all wait for the patch notes or the actual update.

@AshleyAttacked: I understand where you're coming from but there is quite a difference between 9th Anniversary scrolls (+5 or +6 att/m.att) compared to 9th Anniversary Prime scrolls. If you look at the Philosopher book update they specifically said 9th Anniversary Prime scrolls.

Nexon would actually make more money if they limited prime scrolls (tradable or not) to Marvel and Philosopher books. So it makes sense if they dont release them.

@AshleyAttacked

Yet again I see you preaching false and ignorant statements..

"There's only one scroll associated with the 9th anniversary. There's no reason Nexon would make a new scroll and give it the name '9th anniversary'...if they were to create something similar in that vein it would be a 10th anniversary scroll. But it's not. It's the 9th anniversary scroll which means only one thing - prime. Just do a simple owl search for '9th'...there is not and never was another scroll called 9th anniversary that wasn't a prime."

^ You have no qualifier in your statement. You are stating that there are no other scrolls associated with the 9th anniversary (which there are).

"I just can't get my mind around why everyone is so hung up about their being a conspiracy involving prime scrolls. This is just getting silly.

The evidence is completely leaning in the direction of Primes being rereleased. To deny that is just bizarre."

^ Your "opinion" is to shoot everyone else's opinion and share yours as if it were the truth, and nothing but the truth.

Take it easy; it's not like you're all-knowing in every subject of this game. If someone corrects you, why are you trying to justify your own claim by shooting theirs down? And you wonder why people are arguing back.

You never know 10 years is a pretty big event.

Nice, will have to see if they mean the prime or the other 9th anni scrolls... Really want to rescroll me weapon.
If anything I just hope there is clean slates so if there isn't primes I can spell trace with the +9 atks. =p

[quote=IHurtzLotz]@krishman: lol i need slot expansions too..except im almost at cap[/quote]

Yeah, that and the cake/pie thing is most important/exciting to me. I loved the 5th anniversary.

@krishman: lol i need slot expansions too..except im almost at cap

[quote=krishman]My friend noticed this too. Theres a difference between 9th anniversary scrolls and 9th anniversary prime scrolls.
So im not hopeful but its possible that there will be primes but i just dont see it being likely.

Personally im more or less looking forward to the slot expansions, god do i need Use slot expansions.[/quote]

I dunno, I really don't think Nexon would call them 9th Anniversary Scrolls if they didn't mean the prime ones too. That would be really shortsighted of them...they know how important Prime scrolls are to the player base...

I checked last years announcement and it also never mentioned Prime scrolls, it just had an image of the generic 9th Anniversary scroll.

[quote=IHurtzLotz]tbh it just says 9th anni scrolls.. no where does it say prime which makes me sad[/quote]

My friend noticed this too. Theres a difference between 9th anniversary scrolls and 9th anniversary prime scrolls.
So im not hopeful but its possible that there will be primes but i just dont see it being likely.

Personally im more or less looking forward to the slot expansions, god do i need Use slot expansions.

You guys really need to learn when to stop arguing about pointless stuff and just let it go.

[quote=SANsaurr]@AshleyAttacked: It is your opinion yes but you gotta stop insisting that you are correct about things. You have to be open minded.[/quote]

I'm not insisting. I'm providing my reasoning for not interpreting the evidence the way some people are.

All I'm trying to do is to instill some hope by explaining my interpretation of the importance of the 10th anniversary vs kms' 11th anniversary, and then my interpretation of what Nexon means by '9th anniversary scrolls'.

[quote=ISecretNameI]9th scrolls confirmed

http://maplestory.nexon.net/news/events/in-progress/00ISj[/quote]

tbh it just says 9th anni scrolls.. no where does it say prime which makes me sad

@AshleyAttacked: It is your opinion yes but you gotta stop insisting that you are correct about things. You have to be open minded.

[quote=SANsaurr]Just stop commenting and ignore her people. If she's annoying then just let her have her fun and move on. No need to spark a fire.[/quote]

No need to be rude if you disagree with my opinion. I'm just trying to explain why I'm optimistic things will work out the way people hope it will.

[quote=AshleyAttacked]There's only one scroll associated with the 9th anniversary. There's no reason Nexon would make a new scroll and give it the name '9th anniversary'...if they were to create something similar in that vein it would be a 10th anniversary scroll. But it's not. It's the 9th anniversary scroll which means only one thing - prime. Just do a simple owl search for '9th'...there is not and never was another scroll called 9th anniversary that wasn't a prime.[/quote]
[url=http://imgur.com/a/VE2Um]Time stamped just for you.[/url]

Just stop commenting and ignore her people. If she's annoying then just let her have her fun and move on. No need to spark a fire.

[quote=HappyTraderr]It's too late to back down lol.[/quote]

Not backing down, I've been explaining this for 3 days now.

I just think people are being bizarre with their negativity so I offer a contrasting pov.

It's too late to back down lol.

[quote=hdg23]Doesn't seem like you chose the words and phrasing carefully enough [/quote]
I guess not. That or people just don't read carefully enough to notice tone and cadence -.-

Idk how many times I've had to step back and reassert that I'm merely speculating based on my interpretation of a variety of signs. I am not saying Nexon will or won't do this or that.

I'm just baffled at how a topic as silly as this is fraught with emotions and hot tempers. It shouldn't have to be worded and handled with such delicacy and care. It's not that important or controversial.

[quote=AshleyAttacked]I never said that they would be there, I said it appeared that they would. I said that things were leaning in that direction. I chose those words and that phrasing carefully.

My argument here is that people are being bizarre for trying so hard to insult me for having the opinion that things are leaning in that direction and for not agreeing with their negativity.[/quote]

Clearly you didn't choose your words carefully if they're being misconstrued.
"I think Nexon is learning towards rereleasing primes." <-- would have sufficed... No confusion necessary If something is your opinion, make it clear it is YOUR OPINION.

But srsly. Who gives a feq.

[quote=AshleyAttacked]I never said that they would be there, I said it appeared that they would. I said that things were leaning in that direction. I chose those words and that phrasing carefully. [/quote]

[quote=AshleyAttacked]There's only one scroll associated with the 9th anniversary. There's no reason Nexon would make a new scroll and give it the name '9th anniversary'...if they were to create something similar in that vein it would be a 10th anniversary scroll. But it's not. It's the 9th anniversary scroll which means only one thing - prime. Just do a simple owl search for '9th'...there is not and never was another scroll called 9th anniversary that wasn't a prime.[/quote]

[quote=AshleyAttacked]I just can't get my mind around why everyone is so hung up about their being a conspiracy involving prime scrolls. This is just getting silly.

The evidence is completely leaning in the direction of Primes being rereleased. To deny that is just bizarre.[/quote]

Doesn't seem like you chose the words and phrasing carefully enough

[quote=KoreanTemplar]The only person being bizarre is you.[/quote]

For having a different opinion on how the signs should be interpreted? Difference in opinion isn't allowed?

It's my opinion that Nexon knows how expectant everyone is for Primes that they wouldn't just toss around the term '9th Anniversary Scrolls' unless they meant what they know everyone is hoping they mean - Primes. I think the signs indicate they will release all 9th Anniversary Scrolls. Why is that getting everyone so worked up?

[quote=AshleyAttacked]I never said that they would be there, I said it appeared that they would. I said that things were leaning in that direction. I chose those words and that phrasing carefully.

My argument here is that people are being bizarre for trying so hard to insult me for having the opinion that things are leaning in that direction and for not agreeing with their negativity.[/quote]

To be honest, I don't know if you're a really good troll or if you're being serious. The amount of times you made me cringe in this thread alone is ridiculous.

[quote=Qwertrew]I'm not sure what you mean by that. What they are arguing is a perfectly valid point. The announcement only states "9th Anniversary scrolls", which can either refer to the 10 stat ones everyone is looking for, or those lame 5-6 stat ones (which have been described earlier in the thread). It doesn't specifically state that the prime variants will be in the shop. All we know for sure is that there will be scrolls from the 9th anniversary of some sort.[/quote]

I never said that they would be there, I said it appeared that they would. I said that things were leaning in that direction. I chose those words and that phrasing carefully.

My argument here is that people are being bizarre for trying so hard to insult me for having the opinion that things are leaning in that direction and for not agreeing with their negativity.

[quote=Qwertrew]I'm not sure what you mean by that. What they are arguing is a perfectly valid point. The announcement only states "9th Anniversary scrolls", which can either refer to the 10 stat ones everyone is looking for, or those lame 5-6 stat ones (which have been described earlier in the thread). It doesn't specifically state that the prime variants will be in the shop. All we know for sure is that there will be scrolls from the 9th anniversary of some sort.[/quote]

Why not both?

[quote=AshleyAttacked]That doesn't mean you deny reality and come up with the most bizarre plot twists and conspiracies to try to argue against their existence.[/quote]

I'm not sure what you mean by that. What they are arguing is a perfectly valid point. The announcement only states "9th Anniversary scrolls", which can either refer to the 10 stat ones everyone is looking for, or those lame 5-6 stat ones (which have been described earlier in the thread). It doesn't specifically state that the prime variants will be in the shop. All we know for sure is that there will be scrolls from the 9th anniversary of some sort.

[quote=Qwertrew]Because they're the best scrolls in the game? It's a big deal if they're re-released or not released to some people, but maybe not to you. [/quote]

That doesn't mean you deny reality and come up with the most bizarre plot twists and conspiracies to try to argue against their existence.

what evidence? besides all players wanting it to be rereleased...