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@simfel: i see.... thanks

@looniemunki:

Crit% is attainable from other sources in the same or better quantity, while boss/IED/att % cannot be as easily obtained in quantities as large as from weapon potentials. Recubing your weapon should be helpful, while that bonus potential shouldn't be touched unless you have at least 250k nx in reserve to land on something better.

[quote=simfel]@looniemunki:

It's alright for Kaisers to have more than 250% boss since we don't have any large sources of td% other than Catalyze, links, and hyper skill. The 250% mark is a general recommendation but the optimal set up varies between classes.[/quote]
I see. Well my weapon is at 12% crit and 18% total damage, so I'll probably cube that tomorrow when cubes are on sale. Do you think I should cube my secondary bonus potential as well? I personally think that the potential is good on my secondary (20% boss, 12% att, 40% pdr). Sadly the bonus potential is at 12% total damage and 9% attack

@looniemunki:

It's alright for Kaisers to have more than 250% boss since we don't have any large sources of td% other than Catalyze, links, and hyper skill. The 250% mark is a general recommendation but the optimal set up varies between classes.

If you think kaiser damage is horrid, try capping with split hurricane on normal mobs or with summoned blaster on bosses or on a shadower with mc ;0. Ot: go for primed stuff and higher percent are stats and your damage will increase nicely

Idk search dragongms on youtube

[quote=simfel]The following should allow you to hit cap (not consistently) on Chaos Vellum:
25k str
One line of min/max crit on gloves
13 star tyrants
63% attack (from weapon/secondary/emblem bonus pots)
280% boss, 93% IED (all regular potential on wep/2nd/emblem should be shooting for boss/IED in endgame, but att% is a close contender)
Superior gollux set
Accessories (that cannot be scrolled with adv gollux) primed, as well as armor and heart

If you have more str, you could give up a few attack (less stars on tyrants) and vice versa.[/quote]
dang... 13 stars... all of mine are at 10... that's gonna take like 18b from no boom aees alone
wait isn't 280% boss a little too high?

[quote=looniemunki]Ive seen some of your videos. Just how much str do i need to be hitting max on pdr bosses? How much boss % is good enough, how much % att?, and how much % total dmg is ok to have?[/quote]

The following should allow you to hit cap (not consistently) on Chaos Vellum:
25k str
One line of min/max crit on gloves
13 star tyrants
63% attack (from weapon/secondary/emblem bonus pots)
280% boss, 93% IED (all regular potential on wep/2nd/emblem should be shooting for boss/IED in endgame, but att% is a close contender)
Superior gollux set
Accessories (that cannot be scrolled with adv gollux) primed, as well as armor and heart

If you have more str, you could give up a few attack (less stars on tyrants) and vice versa.

Since you're bothered mostly by your damage on elemental resistant bosses, a small but cheap boost to damage would be to level insight.

You need more %Boss, %boss beats % Att and total damage, 300% boss should make u cap on reg bosses. Kaisers never supposed to hit hard, they were always a class that got there dps from sheer #'. On a side note in a future update every class gets the option of getting 20% elemental resistance (80% total) get sum insight and you could get 100% resistance and your dmg wont halved

The struggle of being kaiser and trying to hit hard on bosses .
I still cant hit fully max dmg on all bosses let alone without transform

[quote=rate]kaisers damage formula is horrid. the funding it takes to cap a kaiser you could have 3+ capping dark knights. (tested this myself)[/quote]

I second this^^^

kaisers damage formula is horrid. the funding it takes to cap a kaiser you could have 3+ capping dark knights. (tested this myself)

[quote=looniemunki]but I still don't even hit 50% of my dmg I just said halved but it';s more like 66% of my dmg taken off. to be exact, I hit about 27-45m dmg on other bosses, while PDR bosses I hit 10-20m[/quote]

The problem isn't with your funding or any other % gear. The problem is you're playing a class that requires more $$$ to hit decent. Any other warrior class (except for Hayato, Aran, and Mihile) would hit 50m+ with the same funding.

'Cause you're not an Aran.

You need to be 210 to hit hellux with all your potential

[quote=looniemunki]Ive seen some of your videos. Just how much str do i need to be hitting max on pdr bosses? How much boss % is good enough, how much % att?, and how much % total dmg is ok to have?[/quote]

Don't bother with % total dmg at all if you're concerned with boss dmg, its functionally boss dmg that applies to all mobs so boss % will always be better for bossing situations than TD. Normally 250-300% boss is where people tend to focus on other stuff, and you said you have 80% att which is pretty good considering your other stats, I'd just try to get those TD lines replaced with boss lines.

Otherwise get more str via bpots or reg pots, get everything to 21% reg pot and at least 1 useful line of bpot, get 3-4% nebs on all your items, if you have legendary bpots on non-weapon items try to get Str +2 per 10 character levels because that's a flat 42 str at 210 which is then affected by all your % str.

Like others said that damage is to be expected from a Kaiser, Kaiser's main strength comes from the sheer # of hits/s they're capable of, you need quite a bit of funding to be capping on stuff like CVell with Wingbeat/Giga.

[quote=simfel]The damage stated isn't low on Kaiser standards. 92% IED correlates to approximately hitting 90% (0.9) of your final damage on Hard Magnus' PDR of 120%. Hellux, Magnus, and Empress all have Physical Resistance, which halves (1/2) your damage off the bat. Assuming you hit 40m on bosses with no PDR, The theoretical estimate of 40m*(0.9)*(1/2)=18m isn't too far off your practical results. Please feel free to quote this post if I didn't properly address the concerns, and I'll try to clarify the next chance I get ^_^[/quote]

Ive seen some of your videos. Just how much str do i need to be hitting max on pdr bosses? How much boss % is good enough, how much % att?, and how much % total dmg is ok to have?

[quote=simfel]The damage stated isn't low on Kaiser standards. 92% IED correlates to approximately hitting 90% (0.9) of your final damage on Hard Magnus' PDR of 120%. Hellux, Magnus, and Empress all have Physical Resistance, which halves (1/2) your damage off the bat. Assuming you hit 40m on bosses with no PDR, The theoretical estimate of 40m*(0.9)*(1/2)=18m isn't too far off your practical results. Please feel free to quote this post if I didn't properly address the concerns, and I'll try to clarify the next chance I get ^_^[/quote]

That's what I was thinking...what she describes doesn't sound all that weird to me...

Then again, that has to be the case because...there's no way she could be making this much out of that situation, to the point where she feels so flustered by some perceived in game problem as to make an entire thread about it.... If that were the case there would HAVE to be something more noteworthy in the proposed pdr deficit vs reality than something that tiny.

Sorry, don't mean to drag your question through the mud or anything, I'm just stuck with deducing the parameters of your question over and over to figure out what I'm missing...and I keep coming back to 'that sounds about right'...only to rethink it again and reconsider it from some other angle.

The damage stated isn't low on Kaiser standards. 92% IED correlates to approximately hitting 90% (0.9) of your final damage on Hard Magnus' PDR of 120%. Hellux, Magnus, and Empress all have Physical Resistance, which halves (1/2) your damage off the bat. Assuming you hit 40m on bosses with no PDR, The theoretical estimate of 40m*(0.9)*(1/2)=18m isn't too far off your practical results. Please feel free to quote this post if I didn't properly address the concerns, and I'll try to clarify the next chance I get ^_^

Why? Because Kaisers are extremely hard to hit big damage on. Your damage sounds about right for your stats. .

Idk your level or anything at all...but perhaps none of your gear is scrolled and thus has no base stat to use your %stats on.

Oh, nvm, I see the abbreviation in what you said, re: your stats.

To that end --> that's not exactly as bad as you're making it out to be.

Further, the range of bosses you outlined would have an entirely different skew in on screen dmg than you're describing. For example.. Hellux is nothing compared to CVellum....and thus you'd hit significantly differently than the range you described.

Though, personally, I think you're just expecting more from the game than the damage formula would otherwise allow.

[quote=dablunt]A better question is how on earth do you have that kind of funding and not know about bosses Physical resistance. Gollux, Empress, PB, Magnus, Hilla, RA/CRA all have an effect that reduces your damage by 50%[/quote]

but I still don't even hit 50% of my dmg I just said halved but it';s more like 66% of my dmg taken off. to be exact, I hit about 27-45m dmg on other bosses, while PDR bosses I hit 10-20m

A better question is how on earth do you have that kind of funding and not know about bosses Physical resistance. Gollux, Empress, PB, Magnus, Hilla, RA/CRA all have an effect that reduces your damage by 50%