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@AshleyAttacked: woah, calm down, just as you're voicing your opinion, i'm doing the very same. i've seen some of your misinformed comments and you seem to get frustrated when people correct you. you're getting pessimism confused with realism, we all want primes to return obviously, but the lack of indications is more evident than your perceived values of nexon. but i'll relieve some of this "pessimism" for you, i think it's still quite possible for primes to be returning, if nexon values their 10th anniversary milestone AND their player's wishes, they'd be smart to do so.

GlobalKorean has made a good point, nexon needs to pull out all the stops if they want to prolong the longevity of maplestory. i pray for primes.

@AshleyAttacked: then why is turning 18 or 21 considered more important than turning 20
(hahaha dont answer that lol, im going way off topic XD)

You guys all need to reconsider the fact that KMS and GMS are technically two different games. Yes, they're both Maplestory and yes the only major difference is the language, however you forget to realize GMS is also 1 year behind. A LOT can happen in the duration of 1 year, therefore everything isn't going to be the same. Eunwol and Shade for an example. (same exact thing but GMS changed the name)
All you others also saying that Nexon is lazy and that they're just ignorant. If you havent noticed Maplestory is dying every year (correction every month). Announcing Prime scrolls are definitely a good turn for Maplestory to bring back old players who missed out on the opportunity previous annis or events.
Maplestory is also one of the biggest cash cows in Nexon, making money + bring players back? All i can see is that they'll hit 2 birds with 1 stone.

I dont know about all of you.. but I'd rather stay positive to a game I've played on and off since Beta..

[quote=GlobalKorean]So if you created a game and it was successful for 11 years, you'd be happier during the 10th year rather than the 11th?[/quote]

That's just how celebrations work. 5, 10, 20, 50, 100, 200...milestones like those tend to be opportunities to have a bigger than normal celebration.

[quote=OriginSpecs]Why would it though? A 10 year is more special than an 11, no?[/quote]

So if you created a game and it was successful for 11 years, you'd be happier during the 10th year rather than the 11th?

[quote=Kiirori]@AshleyAttacked: and i said "it doesn't say anything about primes". not whatever the hell you're trying to argue against.

the +5 9th scrolls are/were untradeable afaik, so there goes the relevancy of your owl argument.
and also, you're the one constantly making conjectures as to what nexon is likely to do or not do. seem a bit defensive there.[/quote]
What's wrong with speculation and conjecture? Nothing. Why are so many people so wrapped up in their pessimism that they have to try to insult me for reading the signs differently than them?
It's my opinion, especially in light of the fact that Nexon knows what people want and they would not just toss around the word '9th anniversary scrolls' lightly, that Nexon means all 9th Anniversary Scrolls when they say '9th Anniversary Scrolls'. They just wouldn't, in my opinion, use a loaded term like that if they didn't intend it to mean what they know everyone hopes its means.

@AshleyAttacked: and i said "it doesn't say anything about primes". not whatever the hell you're trying to argue against.

the +5 9th scrolls are/were untradeable afaik, so there goes the relevancy of your owl argument.
and also, you're the one constantly making conjectures as to what nexon is likely to do or not do. seem a bit defensive there.

[quote=Kiirori]actually it doesn't say anything about primes, the 9th anniversary scrolls include the +5atk/stat ones, which is probably what they are. i can't imagine why nexon wouldn't want to hype up this anniversary by explicitly announcing primes. i do hope i'm wrong though, especially if they're only gonna be 50 coins like kms.[/quote]
I said 'appears', I didn't say 'they will be'.

Further, do an owl search for '9th'...the only results that pop up as potentials are all primes. These other scrolls aren't mentioned anywhere so why are you latching on to them as the more likely of the two to show up? Why is everyone so hung up with conspiracy theories about a silly scroll?

[quote=AshleyAttacked]It would appear that primes are included in this years anniversary update.

http://maplestory.nexon.net/news/events/in-progress/00ISj/10th-anniversary-coin-shop-5-6-6-24[/quote]

actually it doesn't say anything about primes, the 9th anniversary scrolls include the +5atk/stat ones, which is probably what they are. i can't imagine why nexon wouldn't want to hype up this anniversary by not explicitly announcing primes. i do hope i'm wrong though, especially if they're only gonna be 50 coins like kms.

It would appear that primes are included in this years anniversary update.

http://maplestory.nexon.net/news/events/in-progress/00ISj/10th-anniversary-coin-shop-5-6-6-24

@AshleyAttacked: tru

[quote=SixthSniper]You guys lack faith in nexon. I've heard far too much of this "oh its just greedy nexon" sentiment. Gollux, commerci, Mr.lees, Singapore, and NLC are all things that GMS has that KMS doesn't. Jetts too <3. Community manager Artasi has been actively listening and addressing this communities questions and problems. While nexon continues to take steps for the improvement of this game, the community continues to drag its efforts down by associating it with its not so bright past. If you still play maple story, shouldn't you be helping the company stand upright, not trying to burn it down?[/quote]

stating that nexon is greedy is an overused statement, however it is pretty accurate as their main goal as a business is obviously to generate revenue. making this statement is not "burning it down," rather expressing ones opinion on the company's values. not saying i agree or disagree, but i completely understand why nexon makes some of its decisions at a business perspective and why players get upset. but ultimately "lacking faith in nexon" has nothing to do with its pattern of following kms's anniversaries, which is why most people speculate that the 10th anniversary for us will mimic kms's 11th anniversary (especially as our 9th copied their 10th)

You guys lack faith in nexon. I've heard far too much of this "oh its just greedy nexon" sentiment. Gollux, commerci, Mr.lees, Singapore, and NLC are all things that GMS has that KMS doesn't. Jetts too <3. Community manager Artasi has been actively listening and addressing this communities questions and problems. While nexon continues to take steps for the improvement of this game, the community continues to drag its efforts down by associating it with its not so bright past. If you still play maple story, shouldn't you be helping the company stand upright, not trying to burn it down?

We have had spark and windy for a lot of events. Just because we get them again doesn't mean anything

11 attacks pls

[quote=AshleyAttacked]It's almost a foregone conclusion that we are not copying KMS for this anniversary. There's just no way GMS would pass up the chance to really celebrate the 10th anni. Like I and others have pointed out...10th anniversary is a huge milestone for most companies. It's a great excuse for GMS to drum up renewed interest in the game and it's a great excuse for GMS to make some serious profit. I just don't understand why people act like it's obvious that we'll get what KMS got this past anni. We're not having the same anniversary KMS had. Ours is a bigger deal, and a much more significant milestone, lol.[/quote]

[quote=Unfaze]youre really overestimating nexon NA. expect to be disappointed soon enough[/quote]

I agree with Unfaze - you're putting way too much faith in GMS. Maybe they're do some kinda of CS special - yay miracle time? - but that's it.

Look at the Facebook video the OP posted. At 1:41 you see the Maple Sage weapons/armor.

Now look towards the bottom of: http://orangemushroom.net/2014/04/29/kms-ver-1-2-213-11th-anniversary-cygnus-returns-flame-wizard/
"They are run by none other than Spark and Windy~ Spark's shop includes the new 11th Anniversary Saint weapons as well as items that work only on them."

Maplestory Saint weapons/armor look the same as the Maplestory Sage weapons shown in the FB video. It seems pretty clear we're just going to get KMS 11th. If you're still not convinced, skip forward to 1:49 and they actually show you the shop.

my wallet and I are ready for the 10th anniversary and whatever they do or bring back I can't wait <3

I thought KMS had prime scrolls?

yay i can prime my wooden club

[quote=AshleyAttacked]It's almost a foregone conclusion that we are not copying KMS for this anniversary. There's just no way GMS would pass up the chance to really celebrate the 10th anni. Like I and others have pointed out...10th anniversary is a huge milestone for most companies. It's a great excuse for GMS to drum up renewed interest in the game and it's a great excuse for GMS to make some serious profit. I just don't understand why people act like it's obvious that we'll get what KMS got this past anni. We're not having the same anniversary KMS had. Ours is a bigger deal, and a much more significant milestone, lol.[/quote]

pretty contradictory. you actually haven't pointed out anything other than that it's a huge opportunity for nexon na. there haven't been much, if any, notable differences between our updates and KMS updates as far as i know of (i don't research the two though so i could be wrong.) also, notice that so far we've received kms's anniversaries one year early. honestly why speculate so much? do something else and wait

[quote=Caeg]If we were to get KMS' 10th anniversary, then it would just be a a repeat of our 9th anniversary. If you look at the video Nexon has posted the shop NPCs are the same exact style as KMS's 11th anniversary NPCs which can be seen here.[url=http://orangemushroom.net/2014/04/29/kms-ver-1-2-213-11th-anniversary-cygnus-returns-flame-wizard/]here.[/url] With how Nexon has run things in the past as well as the same exact NPC from KMS' 11th anniversary, it would be more safer to assume that this anniversary is in fact based off of KMS' 11th anniversary. But again, we never know with Nexon until things are officially released. Like I said before, I would love for Nexon to throw a huge to do over the 10th anniversary and add awesome events. But this is GMS. We're getting cake and pie back which is just a rip off of I think our 5th anniversary which will probably be revamped a little. We may be lucky with something cool like last year's planet chairs. It's always better to assume the worst from Nexon.[/quote]
I only just in the past hour learned what occurred in last years anniversary in GMS...and honestly, in my opinion, it doesn't sound all that special. Sure the scrolls are really useful but they aren't exactly the most exciting thing nor are they really all that fun when you really get down to it. They're a functional reward that you do more as a chore because you feel obligated to take advantage of the chance to make some money. To me the good anniversaries are different than all that...I have EXTREMELY happy memories of the 5th anniversary, the whole cake and pie thing, organizing my time and hw so that I could get online to take part in the battles and try to collect the cool items. I really doubt 5 years from now that I and most other people will have such fond memories of collecting prime scrolls.

Just a thought I had. The best events are more than just glorified chores to get some dry, functional item to try to make some money off of. The best events are the ones that allow us to have experiences with our friends in the game and do things we enjoy and will remember in the coming years.

[quote=AshleyAttacked]I'm not trying to say they're going to release Prime Scrolls en masse at all. I don't even care if they do or don't because I'm done with my gear and the only thing I'm interested in investing my time and effort towards is acquiring cute rare collectible items and perma nx. What I'm trying to say is that I just don't think this anniversary is going to be a cut and paste of the last anniversary in KMS. If anything it'll be a cut and paste of KMS' 10th anniversary. MMORPGS live for this sort of excuse to drum up interest and enthusiasm and draw back older players who have drifted away. My gut feeling is simply that GMS will try to do something at least somewhat unique and different than KMS. Beyond that I have no expectations or hopes whatsoever.[/quote]

If we were to get KMS' 10th anniversary, then it would just be a a repeat of our 9th anniversary. If you look at the video Nexon has posted the shop NPCs are the same exact style as KMS's 11th anniversary NPCs which can be seen here.[url=http://orangemushroom.net/2014/04/29/kms-ver-1-2-213-11th-anniversary-cygnus-returns-flame-wizard/]here.[/url] With how Nexon has run things in the past as well as the same exact NPC from KMS' 11th anniversary, it would be more safer to assume that this anniversary is in fact based off of KMS' 11th anniversary. But again, we never know with Nexon until things are officially released. Like I said before, I would love for Nexon to throw a huge to do over the 10th anniversary and add awesome events. But this is GMS. We're getting cake and pie back which is just a rip off of I think our 5th anniversary which will probably be revamped a little. We may be lucky with something cool like last year's planet chairs. It's always better to assume the worst from Nexon.

[quote=AshleyAttacked]That makes no sense to me. This is one situation where I highly doubt we just cut and paste KMS and call it done. This is the 10th anniversary of GMS. The tenth anniversary for anything is almost always a really big deal. I highly doubt GMS will miss the chance to make a big deal and a big profit on this milestone.[/quote]

And that is why GMS should've received primes this anniversary and not the previous one.

[quote=jonathansayshi]pls guys lez stop assuming and just w8 4 the event ya?[/quote]

Speculating is fun when you're bored. o.o

pls guys lez stop assuming and just w8 4 the event ya?

[quote=AeroReborn]Your post is contradicting itself lol. The cut/paste of the 10th anniversary would be last year's, aka prime scrolls and all that stuff. But you mentioned earlier that you missed that one, so yeah.[/quote]
I didn't say thats what I thought it would be, I just speculated on what I think is the more likely style of cut and paste to be used if it is to be used at all.

Dunno why this is such an emotional idea for some people, lol. There are a lot more controversial opinions out there than what I'm suggesting.

[quote=AshleyAttacked]I'm not trying to say they're going to release Prime Scrolls en masse at all. I don't even care if they do or don't because I'm done with my gear and the only thing I'm interested in investing my time and effort towards is acquiring cute rare collectible items and perma nx. What I'm trying to say is that I just don't think this anniversary is going to be a cut and paste of the last anniversary in KMS. If anything it'll be a cut and paste of KMS' 10th anniversary. MMORPGS live for this sort of excuse to drum up interest and enthusiasm and draw back older players who have drifted away. My gut feeling is simply that GMS will try to do something at least somewhat unique and different than KMS. Beyond that I have no expectations or hopes whatsoever.[/quote]

Your post is contradicting itself lol. The cut/paste of the 10th anniversary would be last year's, aka prime scrolls and all that stuff. But you mentioned earlier that you missed that one, so yeah.

[quote=Caeg]This is Nexon though. Even if it's a huge mile stone, they're still for the most part going to be lazy. The amount of times they've claimed things and switched it up on release is far too many. Prime scrolls are used for marketing things like Marvel, Philosophy books, etc. They would make a much better profit keeping these scrolls rare than selling them out for free. You can't really conclude anything from Nexon until it is officially announced. The reason why people assume we're getting KMS's 11th anniversary is because of the fact that every year our anniversary is just a copy paste from the last year. If we're lucky, Nexon will throw in something unique like last year's planet chairs. I would personally love for an anniversary to blow every other one out of the water, but this is Nexon we're speaking about. It's always best to expect the worst from them.[/quote]
I'm not trying to say they're going to release Prime Scrolls en masse at all. I don't even care if they do or don't because I'm done with my gear and the only thing I'm interested in investing my time and effort towards is acquiring cute rare collectible items and perma nx. What I'm trying to say is that I just don't think this anniversary is going to be a cut and paste of the last anniversary in KMS. If anything it'll be a cut and paste of KMS' 10th anniversary. MMORPGS live for this sort of excuse to drum up interest and enthusiasm and draw back older players who have drifted away. My gut feeling is simply that GMS will try to do something at least somewhat unique and different than KMS. Beyond that I have no expectations or hopes whatsoever.

Usually GMS copies KMS but GMS has been know to make their own stuff from time to time. This is the 10th ani for GMS which is quite a milestone. I'm willing to say they're gonna make it something special. It'd be awefully lame if they just copy KMS's 11th

[quote=zachx]BT re-release? [/quote]

Artasi has been quoting "SoonTM" a lot for stuff lately. BT release was one thing he said "SoonTM" to. Hopefully it is during anniversary >.<.

People seem to be forgetting that last year's anniversary was content from kMS' 10th anniversary, hence it was so impacting. Don't expect anything bigger than last year for the upcoming one. Secretly I hope to be proven wrong, but don't bet on that.

BT re-release?

I just need some scrolls period, for my gear. Want to hit 1m range

[quote=AshleyAttacked]It's almost a foregone conclusion that we are not copying KMS for this anniversary. There's just no way GMS would pass up the chance to really celebrate the 10th anni. Like I and others have pointed out...10th anniversary is a huge milestone for most companies. It's a great excuse for GMS to drum up renewed interest in the game and it's a great excuse for GMS to make some serious profit. I just don't understand why people act like it's obvious that we'll get what KMS got this past anni. We're not having the same anniversary KMS had. Ours is a bigger deal, and a much more significant milestone, lol.[/quote]
This is Nexon though. Even if it's a huge mile stone, they're still for the most part going to be lazy. The amount of times they've claimed things and switched it up on release is far too many. Prime scrolls are used for marketing things like Marvel, Philosophy books, etc. They would make a much better profit keeping these scrolls rare than selling them out for free. You can't really conclude anything from Nexon until it is officially announced. The reason why people assume we're getting KMS's 11th anniversary is because of the fact that every year our anniversary is just a copy paste from the last year. If we're lucky, Nexon will throw in something unique like last year's planet chairs. I would personally love for an anniversary to blow every other one out of the water, but this is Nexon we're speaking about. It's always best to expect the worst from them.

[quote=Unfaze]youre really overestimating nexon NA. expect to be disappointed soon enough[/quote]

I doubt it. I've been playing since 2005 and taken part in every anniversary except for last years so I think I have a pretty decent base of knowledge to build an opinion off of. Sure I could be wrong but I just don't see how Nexon would make a business decision that ridiculously short sighted. I know it's hip to trash Nexon and treat them like amateurs but the fact of the matter is they're really not stupid. They wouldn't be in the position they're in if they didn't have at least a decent amount of business savvy.

@AshleyAttacked: I am always skeptical about things like that.
Usualy when we get something so good, we don't see it again.
Like how we don't get 20% Slates anymore? only 10%'s.
Or how there used to be boxes that gave pendants with epic lines? Iremember people aiming for 6~9% their stat.

These things don't repeat themselves.
They could, and you're right, really. It is a milestone, and between you and me, I hope I'm wrong. But from what we expirianced so far, I believe it's not coming back.
At least not this anniverssary.

[quote=AshleyAttacked]That makes no sense to me. This is one situation where I highly doubt we just cut and paste KMS and call it done. This is the 10th anniversary of GMS. The tenth anniversary for anything is almost always a really big deal. I highly doubt GMS will miss the chance to make a big deal and a big profit on this milestone.[/quote]

youre really overestimating nexon NA. expect to be disappointed soon enough

[quote=natty2]Prime scrolls are not coming back, at least not by KMS standards.[/quote]
It's almost a foregone conclusion that we are not copying KMS for this anniversary. There's just no way GMS would pass up the chance to really celebrate the 10th anni. Like I and others have pointed out...10th anniversary is a huge milestone for most companies. It's a great excuse for GMS to drum up renewed interest in the game and it's a great excuse for GMS to make some serious profit. I just don't understand why people act like it's obvious that we'll get what KMS got this past anni. We're not having the same anniversary KMS had. Ours is a bigger deal, and a much more significant milestone, lol.

Hells nah. Those things were so OP the game locked items scrolled by them in Star Force cause they had way too high of stats lol

Prime scrolls are not coming back, at least not by KMS standards.

Wasn't it a full year before we even got prime scrolls from when they were released in KMS?

In thinking a marvel maybe haha the last one was january?

[quote=Erag0n1]it should match the 11th anniv shop in kms[/quote]

That makes no sense to me. This is one situation where I highly doubt we just cut and paste KMS and call it done. This is the 10th anniversary of GMS. The tenth anniversary for anything is almost always a really big deal. I highly doubt GMS will miss the chance to make a big deal and a big profit on this milestone.

Why would it though? A 10 year is more special than an 11, no?

it should match the 11th anniv shop in kms