Magician Damage Ranges
[b]Updated December 4, 2012[/b]
[b][i]READ THE [s=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2170585/1/The_Ultimate_Magician_Damage_Range_Thread.html#21]INTRODUCTION[/s] AND [s=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2170585/1/The_Ultimate_Magician_Damage_Range_Thread.html#22]RULES AND FORMAT[/s] BEFORE POSTING YOUR RANGE.[/i][/b]
[header=20]Table of Contents[/header]
[url=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2542678]Skyenets 's Evan Damage Range Thread[/url]
[url=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2486800/8/Bishop_Damage_Ranges.html]Steven522 's Bishop Damage Ranges[/url]
[s=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2170585/0/The_Ultimate_Magician_Damage_Range_Thread.html#20]Table of Contents[/s]
[s=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2170585/0/The_Ultimate_Magician_Damage_Range_Thread.html#21]Introduction[/s]
[s=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2170585/0/The_Ultimate_Magician_Damage_Range_Thread.html#22]Rules and Format[/s]
[s=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2170585/0/The_Ultimate_Magician_Damage_Range_Thread.html#1]Damage Ranges[/s]
- - [s=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2170585/0/The_Ultimate_Magician_Damage_Range_Thread.html#14]Luminous[/s]
- - [s=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2170585/0/The_Ultimate_Magician_Damage_Range_Thread.html#15]Bishop[/s]
- - [s=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2170585/0/The_Ultimate_Magician_Damage_Range_Thread.html#16]Ice/Lightning Magician and Fire/Poison Magician[/s]
- - [s=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2170585/0/The_Ultimate_Magician_Damage_Range_Thread.html#17]Evan[/s]
- - [s=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2170585/0/The_Ultimate_Magician_Damage_Range_Thread.html#18]Battle Mage[/s]
- - [s=http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2170585/0/The_Ultimate_Magician_Damage_Range_Thread.html#19]Blaze Wizard[/s]
[header=21]Introduction[/header]
The biggest Magician damage range thread is back! I'm transitioning back to a thread from my guide because of the extremely low traffic that guides get.
Now, a few of you might remember that this damage range thread used to have several hundred ranges. That time is long past. Tempest brings such a massive overhaul that I no longer see it as beneficial to include those old ranges here. I will release an archive of old ranges soon.
Read the rules before you post your range. I can't stress this enough. I try to keep the rules as lenient as possible; you'll see that I require very little compared to similar threads. If you don't provide what I require, I can't use your range.
[header=22]Rules and Format[/header]
[b]I need the following information to use your range.[/b]
Class
Clean or Buffed?
Level
IGN
Range
[i]Not Required: Screenshot[/i]
[i]Not Required: %INT[/i]
[i]Not Required: Skills used to buff range[/i]
Other then the lines that clearly say "Not Required," you must include all of these pieces of information. Otherwise, I will not be able to put your range onto the thread.
[b]Special Rule for Evans:[/b] Dragon Fury can be included in your clean range.
[header=1][i]DAMAGE RANGES[/i][/header]
[header=14]Luminous[/header]
[b][i]Luminous - Clean[/i][/b]
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[b][i]Luminous - Buffed[/i][/b]
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[header=15]Bishop[/header]
[b][i]Bishop - Clean[/i][/b]
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[b][i]Bishop - Buffed[/i][/b]
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[header=16]Ice/Lightning Magician and Fire/Poison Magician[/header]
[b][i]Ice/Lightning Magician and Fire/Poison Magician - Clean[/i][/b]
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[b][i]Ice/Lightning Magician and Fire/Poison Magician - Buffed[/i][/b]
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[header=17]Evan[/header]
[b][i]Evan - Clean[/i][/b]
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[b][i]Evan - Buffed[/i][/b]
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[header=18]Battle Mage[/header]
[b][i]Battle Mage - Clean[/i][/b]
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[b][i]Battle Mage - Buffed[/i][/b]
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[header=19]Blaze Wizard[/header]
[b][i]Blaze Wizard - Clean[/i][/b]
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[b][i]Blaze Wizard - Buffed[/i][/b]
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105 Comments • Newest first
@Quickjumper7: Lol yeah I know. I just felt like randomly posting that day Wow, I was a noobcake back then. I'm still a noobcake now :]
[quote=IImaplers]Class - F/P
Buffed - around 230-303k~
Level - 200
IGN - iweenana
%int - somewhere around 200-220[/quote]
You know this guide hadn't been active for 9 months, right? o.o
Nice to see you're still persevering though! I still have the record, 158 :: iweenana :: 19399-25865. That's from about 2 years ago, I guess.
Class - F/P
Buffed - around 230-303k~
Level - 200
IGN - iweenana
%int - somewhere around 200-220
Edit: Apparently I can't necropost my own thread.
Question? Do mages with duped ele staves count?
IGN: SamBalSaus
Class: Bishop
Level: 164
Clean: 11525~12806
Buffed: 13569~15077 (mw20 and max Abless)
%int: 21% -.-
am i weak?
@MapleSpirit - A lot of mages like to compare their clean ranges because it is more accurate that way. With buffed ranges, your buffed could be Medi, and another guy's buff could be MW30.
Wouldn't it make more sense to put a buff only, since all Mages have something that increases their range.
My [url=http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStory-Guide-Magician-Damage-Ranges-415.html]guide[/url] is now ready.
I decided against using this thread for the archived ranges. Actually, I put the archived ranges into the guide. If people don't like it, I'll put that back into a scrap.
Everyone can make comments in the guide now, or both if you feel eager. But I'll lock this thread very soon.
My stats GMS
Ign: Muslibox
Class: BIshop
Lvl: 139
Buffed: 12177-13530
% int: 34%
Ok, I have tons of news this time around.
[*]This thread was turned into a guide. I'll be transitioning to the guide in the next week.
[*]Now, that leaves the question of what will happen to this thread? I plan to turn this thread into the archived damage range thread. I feel that the scraps thread, while useful, is too inconvenient.
[*]And finally, when I switch completely over to my new guide, a lot of changes will have taken place in the format. They're not all neccessarily good, but I am experimenting. I'll want feedback from everyone, to see what you like and don't like.
As for updating the ranges, I feel that it would be a bad use of time to add the ranges to this old thread. So, the new ranges will be updated next week when I switch to the guide.
Congrats on guide status n__n
Finally got around to screenshotting my range.
Clean:
[url=http://s1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb413/easysword11/?action=view&current=Maple0036.jpg] 151 :: easysword :: I/L :: 10800-14400 :: 31% INT [/url]
Buffed:
[url=http://s1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb413/easysword11/?action=view&current=Maple0036.jpg#!oZZ1QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fs1204.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb413%2Feasysword11%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3DMaple0037.jpg] 151 :: easysword :: I/L :: 11477-15302 :: 31% INT :: Medi [/url]
[b]Class[/b] Battle Mage
[b]Clean or Buffed?[/b] Lol, buffed. (I'll post another screeny clean if needed)
[b]Level[/b] 164
[b]IGN[/b] TwistedRail
[b]Range[/b] 67909 ~ 90545
[b]Screenshot[/b] [url=http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/5509/maplestory2011101606274.png] Linky[/url]
Ok, the changes have been made. This is now an Ascension-only damage range thread.
And I feel its time to request guide status again. Wish the thread luck.
Ice Lightning
175 :: AryanKnight :: 21415 ~ 28553 :: 51% INT :: medi/mw20
I just noticed my range is posted in there~ Probably because you got it from the Evan damage thread. xD But it seems as though you got my chaos range pic instead of my ascension pic from that page http://i54.tinypic.com/eqtlrb.png Here's the real pic~
[quote=Quickjumper7]I have updated the new 100+ ranges in. I'm still a few pages behind, but I'll catch up.
@IImaplers - I decided to user your file idea, but with a twist. I'm going to keep the basil code in the file so that basilers can copy the text into a scrap and view it like a normal thread.[/quote]
Awesome idea! Keep up all the great work!
My post-ascension range shall be here soon xD
Ascension
Class: Arch Mage
Range Status: Buffed (Meditation, MW 9)
Level: 182
IGN: ChuDatz
Range: 19,158~25,544
% INT: 79%
I wish I was pro like Bentlyz lol
Ascension
Class: Bishop
Range status: Clean
Level: 132
IGN: FalenXmage (L not i)
Range: 6018 ~ 6687
I have updated the new 100+ ranges in. I'm still a few pages behind, but I'll catch up.
@IImaplers - I decided to user your file idea, but with a twist. I'm going to keep the basil code in the file so that basilers can copy the text into a scrap and view it like a normal thread.
[quote=xFlareZz]Ascension
Buffed
183
xflarezz1
82293~109724[/quote]
Sswis?
[quote=Quickjumper7]@IImaplers: The 40 int helped you that much, eh? Just looking at the averages of ranges in the thread, I don't see nearly that high of a difference.
I'm definitely not going to just throw out any ranges. If anything, I'll make 3 seperate threads for Big Bang, Chaos, and Jump (and Jump2 when that comes...). But it saddens me for the thread to not be "ultimate" anymore. I see it as so much easier to have everything on one big thread, but that's obviously not what most people think.[/quote]
I guess this ultimate thread should stay "ultimate". But how about linking the pre-chaos ranges to a downloadable file? That would keep historic records and save space at the same time imo
@IImaplers: The 40 int helped you that much, eh? Just looking at the averages of ranges in the thread, I don't see nearly that high of a difference.
I'm definitely not going to just throw out any ranges. If anything, I'll make 3 seperate threads for Big Bang, Chaos, and Jump (and Jump2 when that comes...). But it saddens me for the thread to not be "ultimate" anymore. I see it as so much easier to have everything on one big thread, but that's obviously not what most people think.
[quote=Quickjumper7]@Gridmonkey and @IImaplers - There really isn't much of a difference in ranges for Big Bang, Chaos, and Ascension. The biggest change is probably Evans in Chaos, but even that is not so noticeable, because most of our mage buffs didn't affect our range.
So... how about keeping the old ranges, but not seperating them by Maplestory Version anymore? It would give everybody a larger amount of ranges to look at, and it would considerably shrink the size and complication of the thread.
And sorry about the slow updating. AP Calculus doesn't study for itself.[/quote]
I think there's a significant difference between Big Bang ranges and Chaos/Ascension. So I would just keep the Chaos and Ascension ones since they are the most recent. My range actually went up by about 4k after Ascension hit.
@Gridmonkey and @IImaplers - There really isn't much of a difference in ranges for Big Bang, Chaos, and Ascension. The biggest change is probably Evans in Chaos, but even that is not so noticeable, because most of our mage buffs didn't affect our range.
So... how about keeping the old ranges, but not seperating them by Maplestory Version anymore? It would give everybody a larger amount of ranges to look at, and it would considerably shrink the size and complication of the thread.
And sorry about the slow updating. AP Calculus doesn't study for itself.
[quote=Quickjumper7]Cluttered in what way? Do you mean take out the pre-ascension ranges, or stop taking new ones?[/quote]
Exactly what Gridmonkey suggested. This thread at this point is a great bank of historic statistics, but most would only care about and compare post-ascension ranges. So yeah I think removing the pre-ascension ranges and scraping the rest of the data would work. Let me also add that the amount of work you've put into this thread is impressive.
Probably remove them entirely or continue to update them in another location/thread, since the majority of viewers on Basilmarket at least (while there are players from other versions) probably only want to view this thread for the post-Ascension ranges now (of which there are none yet, it's best to update them up to where you are up to so far so people know the thread gets updated at all).
[quote=IImaplers]I think it's a bit cluttered here. IMO it would probably be best to put only ranges that are post-ascension or else it'll keep being cluttered. Just a suggestion [/quote]
Cluttered in what way? Do you mean take out the pre-ascension ranges, or stop taking new ones?
Version:Ascension
IGN:megaj27
Lvl:137
Buffed range: 8102~11311
Int%:29%
Magic%:2%
I think it's a bit cluttered here. IMO it would probably be best to put only ranges that are post-ascension or else it'll keep being cluttered. Just a suggestion
Wasn't aware that a fat post count remotely implied a quality thread deserving of guide status, would think it was the content alone that determined that. Basilmarket priorities -1.
Maplestory Version: Ascension
Ice/Lightning Arch Mage
Level 131
Liquos
Clean:
4763~6351
Buffed:
5226~6968
No %INT
Maplestory Version: Ascension
Class : I/L
Clean
Level 156
IGN CptJashun
Range : 9284 ~ 12378
23% int,
I just submitted a ticket to turn this thread into a guide. Hoping it gets accepted.
Do you all think I should put the ranges into tables? It will make the guide more organized, but will also make it longer.
And I know it looks like I've done nothing for the past couple of weeks, but that's not the case. I've compiled over 150 more ranges, I just need to add them to the thread. Be patient, you guys don't realize how many hours I've spent on this thread.
[b]Edit:[/b] I got a response in only 10 minutes from mrbot, saying that my ticket was not looked at because mr.b is very busy. Well... at least it was a quick response?
@Quickjumper7: Oh it's good to know that you're still with us. I still think this thread has a lot of potential. I know I'm always wondering about other I/L's ranges.
Maplestory Version:Ascention
I/L
Clean
122
WhysItPurple
Range: 5573~7430
Not Required: 27 %INT
@easysword - I haven't given up. If anything, the community has given up.
The length thing has been brought up many times. I'm pretty sure that the mods prefer one large thread over several small ones. But I'll ask.
Maplestory Version: (Big Bang, Chaos, or Ascension): Ascension
Class: I/L
Clean or Buffed?: Clean and Buffed in that order
Level: 113
IGN: Raingasms
Range: 4851-6468 | 5314-7085
Screenshot: Will Post Later...
%INT: 16%
Skills used to buff range: Meditation
The problem with this thread: WAY TOO LONG. Should've made a separate one for each class. Evans, BaM's, and adv mages don't really compare well.
I also think the TS gave up.
That said this is still the best thread we have so I'm reposting with my new range.
Ascension - easysword
lvl 145 I/L, 28% int - Will post ss later if I get to it.
Build: 30 str, 5 dex, 87 luk ._. (I was a very, very old character)
No Buffs xxxx-12281
Meditation xxxx-13058
Posted in the other thread but oh well, this one is '*~._.~*ULTIMATE*~._.~*' .
Ascension, 192 I/L, 133%INT.
No buffs: 34186 ~ 45581.
After buffs (Medi+MW30): 40060 ~ 53413.
51001 max with MW 30 and meditation
This thread deserves better, the most organized range thread we have and it dies. Post up your new/improved/same ranges for Ascension guys/gals!
[quote=currified]When we're buffed, does that includes arcane aim as well? (stacked to max)[/quote]
Hm... I'm fairly sure that arcane aim doesn't add to your range, just to your skill damage. Like elemental amplification.
[quote=gridmonkey]What's happening to magician ranges post-Ascension btw? The way you wrote that implies they're all going to change, is that just a reference to High Wisdom or have I missed something?[/quote]
Mainly, I'm just changing the format that you can submit ranges. But yeah, everyone's ranges should go up a little due to high wisdom.
Maplestory Version: GMS Chaos
Class: I/L
Clean, unbuffed.
[url=http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b153/skhepburn/Maple0000-1.jpg]191 :: Gobbins :: 31090 ~ 41453[/url]
What's happening to magician ranges post-Ascension btw? The way you wrote that implies they're all going to change, is that just a reference to High Wisdom or have I missed something?
Maplestory version: Chaos (Unbuffed)
Ign: iStabWeenyy
Level: 143
Clean: 8789 - 11718
Class: I/L Arch Mage
Maplestory version: Chaos (Buffed)
Ign: iStabWeenyy
Level: 143
Clean: 10876 - 13974
Class: I/L Arch Mage
My Stats - Chaos
Ign: MusliBox
Class: Bishop
Clean: 4367-5822
% int: 28
Base AP: 4 STR, 4 DEX, 524 INT, 83 LUK
Range Buffed: (Just my buffs and mage elixer which gives +20 magic attack) 5315-7087
Maplestory Version: Chaos
Class: Battle Mage
Level : 146
IGN : BattleEnergy (base luk = 4)
CLEAN = 11779-15705
BUFFED = 20582-27442 (LVL 30 ADA + BB)
zomg, i feel noobish now
but my range has only been 4.5-5.5k ish cuz i stuck with my lvl 80 empress equips...
It way too long o.o
I like the statue ^^
I feel like a noob
Leveled a good amount.
Maplestory version: Chaos (Unbuffed)
IGN: Piankin
Level: 129
Clean: 9161-12215
Class: F/P Arch Mage