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Kms Probability Released

http://maplestory.nexon.com/MapleStory/Page/Gnx.aspx?URL=Guide/ItemInfo_Decoration

Breakdown:
First tab:
1. Boxes that gives random items in cs (similar to bday boxes?)
Normal=25% (Why is Ink/Wash rings in here?)
Senior=60%
Top rated=15%
2+3 Not in GMS

Second tab:
Pandora's box (Philobook kinda thing)
Other monster life/incubator stuff

Third tab:
1. Royal hair
Varies with the stuff in royal.
80% chance of "normal" hair (4 of these per gender)
20% chance of "rare" hair (2 of these per gender)
There are 2 "rare" female hair-- one of which is Soprano Hair so it has a 10% chance. P(x)=0.2*0.5=10% chance of getting one of these
(Same for Male. An example of a male one would be the Ultra Bubble Hair)
There are 4 "normal" female hair (Foxy Tail Hair is an example) P(x)=0.8*0.25=20% chance of getting one of these
(Same for male. An example of a male one would be the Round Hair. Look it up on mapleme since I can't find it in any recent royals.)

So if you're royaling for Soprano Hair, it takes an average of 33k NX to get it

2) Royal face (all faces have the same probability)
3) Reg hair (all colors have the same probability)

Cube's probability was left out due to a loophole

Not the greatest translation but you should be able to get the point

This is from 2~3 days ago so there might be a thread already...

June 30, 2015

35 Comments • Newest first

Erag0n1

translated the others to check if its stuff i wanted and nope...
no gach/marvel/inner ability/cubing :C rip

Reply July 1, 2015
GunPowder

@fairystories: If that's the loophole, then they're at the very least required to post the probability of getting each potential line.

Reply July 1, 2015
fairystories

[quote=GunPowder]What about ranking tier ups? That's a gamble.[/quote]

The cube description says that it reconfigures an item's potential. You're not guaranteed a tier-up, but you are guaranteed that any cube you use will reset an item's potential so it's not really "gambling". That's the loophole.

Reply June 30, 2015
GunPowder

[quote=JoeyXE]That is not true. Cube reconfigure stats. Random stats maybe, we count it as a gamble, but probably according to the law there its not a gamble- you have stats and get different stats.
Unlike boxes or coupons which states clearly that you use a coupon/box and get a random Hairstyle/Item.

Ya, but probably not in the law.[/quote]
What about ranking tier ups? That's a gamble.

Reply June 30, 2015
Axnslicer

[quote=SadVirgin]Not even surprised that they somehow slithered out of sharing cube rates.[/quote]

Lol, it's not like we actually need Nexon to give us cube rates. We already know that the rates are like 3-5% chance to leg with red cubes, 5-10% with black cubes from adding up our cubing numbers since the last better maple patch.

Most people just don't consider how insane paying $20 for leg+$50 for good stats per item is. And this isn't even considering bonus potential, scrolling, and enhancing. It's common for end-game perfect items to go for over $100.

Reply June 30, 2015
IHurtzLotz

[quote=Rachelll]http://maplestory.nexon.com/MapleStory/Page/Gnx.aspx?URL=Guide/ItemInfo_Decoration

Breakdown:
First tab:
1. Boxes that gives random items in cs (similar to bday boxes?)
Normal=25% (Why is Ink/Wash rings in here?)
Senior=60%
Top rated=15%
2+3 Not in GMS

Second tab:
Pandora's box (Philobook kinda thing)
Other monster life/incubator stuff

Third tab:
1. Royal hair
Varies with the stuff in royal.
80% chance of "normal" hair (4 of these per gender)
20% chance of "rare" hair (2 of these per gender)
There are 2 "rare" female hair-- one of which is Soprano Hair so it has a 10% chance. P(x)=0.2*0.5=10% chance of getting one of these
(Same for Male. An example of a male one would be the Ultra Bubble Hair)
There are 4 "normal" female hair (Foxy Tail Hair is an example) P(x)=0.8*0.25=20% chance of getting one of these
(Same for male. An example of a male one would be the Round Hair. Look it up on mapleme since I can't find it in any recent royals.)

So if you're royaling for Soprano Hair, it takes an average of 33k NX to get it

2) Royal face (all faces have the same probability)
3) Reg hair (all colors have the same probability)

Cube's probability was left out due to a loophole

Not the greatest translation but you should be able to get the point

This is from 2~3 days ago so there might be a thread already...[/quote]

2+3 is in GMS =,= monster life is the monster farm thing that u probably dont do..
pandora's box is just a rip off the fairy tears/philo books etc..its just has a diff name

Reply June 30, 2015
CRUSlFIED

Nexon releasing there cube rates is like finding out whats really in McDonalds.

Reply June 30, 2015 - edited
betaboi101

I'm going to take a long shot and assume that marvel works similar to the pandoras box in that all items are by class: Since marvel has way more prizes though, individual percents per the special prizes are probably slim to none

Assuming marvel:
normal item - revolution crap, scrolls, random cs stuff
rare item- tinkers box, 3 cube bundles, more high end uncommon stuff
epic item - tyrants?
special item - 1 mil points, titanium heart, lgrs, ect

Reply June 30, 2015 - edited
JoeyXE

[quote=Aiacu]Same could be said for hair coupons though, no? The boxes too, as they aren't really a gamble. It's not like there's a chance to get nothing.[/quote]
That is not true. Cube reconfigure stats. Random stats maybe, we count it as a gamble, but probably according to the law there its not a gamble- you have stats and get different stats.
Unlike boxes or coupons which states clearly that you use a coupon/box and get a random Hairstyle/Item.
[quote=Avatar]Probably the biggest and most important game wise gamble of all..[/quote]
Ya, but probably not in the law.

Reply June 30, 2015 - edited
Jaffah

omfg I feel betrayed that there's "rare" and "normal" royal hairs i thought they were all equal all this time... my probability calculations were all wrong!

Reply June 30, 2015 - edited
GreatBolshy

i was really looking forward to just how ridiculous cubing was. i'd love to hear how they justified that cubing wasn't gambling. this is one of those things where i just have to assume nexon paid off some korean politician to get them a loophole because it seems to good to be true for nexon that their top money maker that is indeed gambling somehow snuck through the new laws. i don't really know how they could sneak through it. every single cube you use offers a new set of stats. you'd think that they would have to at least release the tier up stats, but i doubt they'd want everyone to know that it's something like 2%

Reply June 30, 2015 - edited
Avatar

[quote=JoeyXE]Well probably because you don't win anything from it (like a prize or something, you simply change the potential) it doesn't count as gambling.[/quote]

Probably the biggest and most important game wise gamble of all..

Reply June 30, 2015 - edited
Star909

[quote=Aiacu]Same could be said for hair coupons though, no? The boxes too, as they aren't really a gamble. It's not like there's a chance to get nothing.[/quote]

Probably because hair and items from cs boxes are counted as "items of materealistic value" while cubes hans out numbers.

Reply June 30, 2015 - edited
Aiacu

[quote=JoeyXE]Well probably because you don't win anything from it (like a prize or something, you simply change the potential) it doesn't count as gambling.[/quote]

Same could be said for hair coupons though, no? The boxes too, as they aren't really a gamble. It's not like there's a chance to get nothing.

Reply June 30, 2015 - edited
yearn

What is the chance of getting +1 attack speed on IA?
coulda bought a bmw.

Reply June 30, 2015 - edited
JoeyXE

[quote=juubee]WHAT LOOPHOLE FOR CUBES? F445555

Thanks for sharing.[/quote]
Well probably because you don't win anything from it (like a prize or something, you simply change the potential) it doesn't count as gambling.

Reply June 30, 2015 - edited
Ohwellz

What about inner ability?

Reply June 30, 2015 - edited
SadVirgin

Not even surprised that they somehow slithered out of sharing cube rates.

Reply June 30, 2015 - edited
juubee

WHAT LOOPHOLE FOR CUBES? F445555

Thanks for sharing.

Reply June 30, 2015 - edited
Ecarina

Huh, so there are hairs that are harder to get :o I guess that explains why I never got Soprano in all of my Royals.
Though then again, the 2 times that I gifted coupons to my friends, both of them got Soprano. 1st try.

Reply June 30, 2015 - edited
ZeroSuited

The only one that mattered wasn't given...

Reply June 30, 2015 - edited
Flya

Does KMS have marvel machine?

Reply June 30, 2015 - edited
SpadeStyle

I just love how they didn't include cubes.

Reply June 30, 2015 - edited
CloaksSCA

[quote=ogstuffyo]what did u expect u derp they have to make profit somehow[/quote]

Dude seriously wth is your problem? stop harassing people..

Reply June 30, 2015 - edited
ogstuffyo

[quote=Sammi]Absolutely disgusting. I can't believe I'm still playing this game. </3 </3[/quote]
what did u expect u derp they have to make profit somehow

Reply June 30, 2015 - edited
CloaksSCA

[quote=Rachelll]I don't think this is in GMS but it's very similar to those small/large b-day boxes we saw a while back[/quote]

Oh okay gotcha. Thanks for clarifying

Reply June 30, 2015 - edited
ogstuffyo

[quote=Rachelll]I don't think this is in GMS but it's very similar to those small/large b-day boxes we saw a while back[/quote]

wow insane to the mebrane

Reply June 30, 2015 - edited
Rachelll

[quote=CloaksSCA]Yeah, the only thing i don't understand is this
Boxes that gives random items in cs (similar to bday boxes?)
Normal=25% (Why is Ink/Wash rings in here?)
Senior=60%
Top rated=15%
2+3 Not in GMS[/quote]

I don't think this is in GMS but it's very similar to those small/large b-day boxes we saw a while back

Reply June 30, 2015 - edited
CloaksSCA

[quote=Rachelll]Well you quoted everything I posted.

They released the probability for surprise boxes, monster life incubators and royals basically.[/quote]

Yeah, the only thing i don't understand is this
Boxes that gives random items in cs (similar to bday boxes?)
Normal=25% (Why is Ink/Wash rings in here?)
Senior=60%
Top rated=15%
2+3 Not in GMS

Reply June 30, 2015 - edited
Rachelll

[quote=CloaksSCA]@Rachelll: So this is the probably of surprise boxes? sorry im slow[/quote]

Well you quoted everything I posted.

They released the probability for surprise boxes, monster life incubators and royals basically.

Reply June 30, 2015 - edited
CloaksSCA

@Rachelll: So this is the probably of surprise boxes? sorry im slow

Reply June 30, 2015 - edited
Sammi

[quote=Miauri]Ofc they got away with not having to release cube's probability[/quote]

Absolutely disgusting. I can't believe I'm still playing this game. </3 </3

Reply June 30, 2015 - edited
Rachelll

[quote=CloaksSCA]What the hell is this lol?[/quote]
Gaming companies in Korean are required to release their probability for the gambling aspect of their game now.
"This" is the release from KMS

Reply June 30, 2015 - edited
CloaksSCA

[quote=Rachelll]http://maplestory.nexon.com/MapleStory/Page/Gnx.aspx?URL=Guide/ItemInfo_Decoration

Breakdown:
First tab:
1. Boxes that gives random items in cs (similar to bday boxes?)
Normal=25% (Why is Ink/Wash rings in here?)
Senior=60%
Top rated=15%
2+3 Not in GMS

Second tab:
Pandora's box (Philobook kinda thing)
Other monster life/incubator stuff

Third tab:
1. Royal hair
Varies with the stuff in royal.
80% chance of "normal" hair
20% chance of "rare" hair
There are 2 "rare" female hair-- one of which is Soprano Hair so it has a 10% chance. P(x)=0.2*0.5=10% chance of getting one of these
(Same for Male. An example of a male one would be the Ultra Bubble Hair)
There are 4 "normal" female hair (Foxy Tail Hair is an example) P(x)=0.8*0.25=20% chance of getting one of these
(Same for male.)

So if you're royaling for Soprano Hair, it takes an average of 33k NX to get it

2. Royal face (all faces have the same probability)
3. Reg hair (all colors have the same probability)

Cube's probability was left out due to a loophole

Not the greatest translation but you should be able to get the point

This is from 2~3 days ago so there might be a thread already...[/quote]

What the hell is this lol?

Reply June 30, 2015 - edited
Miauri

Ofc they got away with not having to release cube's probability

Reply June 30, 2015 - edited