General

ms is dying. nexon needs to make $$$ somehow

For people who don't spend NX or rarely spend NX at all there is a possibility that they won't buy this pack, just for the same reason why they don't buy regular cubes. That being said it's only really good at items that are legendary. So the fact that you will see people out of the blue hitting high damage is highly unlikely just because they are afraid of how much money they will spend.

this is beneficial to everyone except the 0.01% who have already dumped a boat load of cash on this game making god-tier equips.

Devalues "god" tier items.
Allows players to become "funded" with less real-life money used, thus removing the "prestige" of hitting damage cap.
Eradicates the need of Red and Black Cubes.
Screws over old "funded" players.

I'm gonna play the devil's advocate here:

1) To Nexon, there is no such thing as "godly" gear or "prestige" damage. Nexon does not give a crap about concepts that its users made up. If anything, Nexon will capitalize on the craze for higher damage by release more and more NX like the violet cube. To Nexon, it's a better opportunity to target another group of its playerbase, namely those who are not able to invest a lot of NX like those who were able to reach godly gear before violet cube.

2) Red and Black cubes are still relevant because "apparently" it has better chance to tier up compared to violet cubes

3) You cannot expect an online game, ESPECIALLY MMOs, not to change. Change is bound to happen in small ways, or in big radical ways. This means features that can "screw over" old players will inevitably happen, and these violet cubes are nothing compared to what Nexon has done to its other games, especially MMOs. If violet cubes surprise you, you guys have not played Nexon games enough... This is just another example of how Nexon's games are pay to win. Honestly, sometimes, I feel like the concept of "pay to win" derived from Nexon's games.

I wouldn't say it erases the need for black cubes. You still have to tier an item to legendary after all. Personally making it easier to obtain good potentials is something that needed to happen a long time ago, thankfully they're releasing this and I'm on board with it regardless of how much my gear will deflate.

@zroh : Potential locks were terrible though. Excessively over priced or generally useless.

@ichii: The game's current state is that damage is everything, which I don't think is too healthy for a game such as Maple.

Anyway, on second thought, I guess the addition of Violet Cubes isn't bad, considering that people can now get better stats with less money. However, I do feel sorry for those that spent a lot of money last week during the cube sales since they probably could have spent a fraction as much on Violet Cubes and gotten better stats. I think it was a little bad business practice for Nexon to advertise the greatest cube sale and bring these Violet cubes shortly after.

I still think cubes are too expensive as it is(should be 500nx for reds and 1k for blacks imo).

Considering the amount of time and effort you need to put into this game to even get to the point where these cubes become useful, I don't see why anyone would complain. You still have to first level up, then buy the gear, scroll them, pot them, bonus pot them(cash only cubes), 3l them, cube them all to legendary(may take forever depending on your luck), and then start using violet cubes(cash only) to get optimal lines. Why on earth would anyone be against having the process of obtaining a decent endgame range being less costly? Nexon may not be the greatest when it comes to decision making but I'll take them over some of you selfish idiots any day. o.o

I won't be buying any but I say bring on the Violet!

@ielmo I think the deal is for one day while the cubes are here to stay. Also, what's wrong with the game's current state?

The price per cube is less than tempting but I still don't think this is a good implementation to the game at its current state. At least it's only for a day and I guess nexon is just testing the waters...

[quote=zroh]I don't want these cubes. The gap between the nx spenders and non-nx spenders will increase. After Nexon falsely perma banned me for months, I saw no reason to keep purchasing NX when my 8 years of playing turned into dust in a matter of seconds with their mistake. It's bad enough that I can't purchase bonus cubes but now I have this to deal with.[/quote]

why? easily attained godly items = flood FM = lower prices = everyone happy except people who cubed before violet cubes existed

therefore, the only bitter ones are people who spent $$ cubing before violet cubes are released

[quote=john5p]I don't agree with this logic. The gap should actually decrease because more godly equips will flood the market thereby dropping the price of all other cubed items. If you don't spent nx that still means you can buy cubed equips with Meso. What is there not to like about this? [/quote]

I understand what you mean but when Potential Locks were available years ago, the gap did not decrease whatsoever. It's not like you'll see a flood of 30-32% equips floating around in FM after the release of this cube. People will be keeping all their 30%-32% equips besides those who are quitting. There are already plenty of 30% equips in the market (in Windia anyways), having a few more floating in FM will not make much difference unless all the "pros" suddenly decide to quit/switch characters at once.

I am just speaking from a past experience and do not see the prices of "godly" items suddenly becoming affordable to everyone as some people are suggesting. In the end, many people who will be cubing over their 10+ star tyrants, and nicely scrolled CRA equips will keep their items instead of selling it off. It will only make those types of nx spenders stronger.

[quote=zroh]I don't want these cubes. The gap between the nx spenders and non-nx spenders will increase. After Nexon falsely perma banned me for months, I saw no reason to keep purchasing NX when my 8 years of playing turned into dust in a matter of seconds with their mistake. It's bad enough that I can't purchase bonus cubes but now I have this to deal with.[/quote]

I don't agree with this logic. The gap should actually decrease because more godly equips will flood the market thereby dropping the price of all other cubed items. If you don't spent nx that still means you can buy cubed equips with Meso. What is there not to like about this?

The main arguements I see are comparisons being made between the funded and non-funded. Why does it matter what potential equips other people have or dont have? Now that purple cubes are introduced cubing becomes easier. Who doesn't want to have better chances at gambling?

I don't want these cubes. The gap between the nx spenders and non-nx spenders will increase. After Nexon falsely perma banned me for months, I saw no reason to keep purchasing NX when my 8 years of playing turned into dust in a matter of seconds with their mistake. It's bad enough that I can't purchase bonus cubes but now I have this to deal with.

[quote=piana]The one who spent a lot and got perfect stat : No please!
The one who spent a bit : Yes please!
The one who cannot spend : -Cry-[/quote]

Took the words out of my mouth!

I support the addition of the cubes. I don't support how absurdly cheap they are. 3k regular price? They should be double that so at least equipment keeps some value....

Finally something worth your hard earned $$$. No more gamble, choose whatever lines you want! gg! <3

my mech is crying tears of joy for this

time to increase my range! *pulls out wallet* <3

As a person who played this game for 6 years and only spent 10$ on this game, my opinion is...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnsDbOi6sTY

I would rather see a black cube equivalent for bonus potential instead of these violet cubes to be honest. I am kind of dreading to see the non discounted price of them as well. Here's to hoping that they make their way into the rewards shop, along with bonus pot cubes

[quote=piana]The one who spent a lot and got perfect stat : No please!
The one who spent a bit : Yes please!
The one who cannot spend : -Cry-[/quote]

I disagree. The ones who spend a lot usually only end up with near-perfect stats. Unless you spend like, the top 1% of the big spenders, you will probably benefit

I mean if you think about it red cubes are less than half the price. Though violet cubes seem like a more sure fire way to get what you want, red cubes are still the cheaper gamble especially if your nx to be spent is limited

It's without a doubt in anyone's mind, a great option to have 2x the lines to choose from. If you're doubting that then it's just your greed or the reality sinking in that you've spent over $1000 on a 2D mmo. The cubes themselves still aren't cheap anyway.

Besides look at it from Nexon :
People are asking to remove the Violet cubes? I guess they're ok with the current cube setup.

Who does that screw over? You, the players.

This allows cash-poor time-rich people to get on the same level as cash-rich people, lessening the pay2win (by a bit).

I support violet cubes-but not their item sprite.

Nexon cashing out

@assasin474 Oh man this made my morning. Thank you.

[quote=assasin474]"Oh no, I can no longer take pride in the fact that I can 1hit every boss in the game! What shall I do! Nexon why did you force me to empty out my wallet on godly equips? How will I ever feel accomplished for doing nothing and being a lazy gamer now? OH THE HORROR"

Whiners. All of you.[/quote]

Lol. This made me chuckle. I know one person who is already raging ultra hard in game on my buddy list.

I've always thought of the cubes as a big gamble, especially since they cost originally only costed money.
But being able to choose out of 6 (or 4 if you haven't stamped it) potentials to get would actually be worth it if my gear wasn't only just Epic.

"Oh no, I can no longer take pride in the fact that I can 1hit every boss in the game! What shall I do! Nexon why did you force me to empty out my wallet on godly equips? How will I ever feel accomplished for doing nothing and being a lazy gamer now? OH THE HORROR"

Whiners. All of you.

When you think about it, it's still randomized AND it's like $30 for an 10 pack ($25 discounted) That's alot considering the guy in the video probably went through at least 10+ to get good lines while he was already legendary, that still doesn't help people who have to reach legendary first.

Im one of those people who have spent a tad much on cubing. And i say, a cube like this would likely encourage more people to purchase. There is less risk with this cube since you get to select 3 of 6 lines. Thus lessening the chance of obtaining 12,12,9 % magic atk on a claw etc. Yes it will make "godly" potential items depreciate, but its going to depreciate to a more "sane" value.

These cubes do allow players who wish to optimise for a particular stat to do so more readily. i.e Boss vs atk vs pdr

That being said it has been proven time and time again that you really don't need absurdly high ranges to do end game bosses, barring lotus and dorothy. And that there is still an emphasis on character control. I know of players who are of the same class as me that cannot kill chaos vellum despite having double the range... And i also know of players that are the same class as me that can solo in the same time as me, despite having less range. So even my own control is by no means "perfect". What I expect to see flooding the forums are players with newly acquired ranges from violet cubes still complaining bosses are too hard or plop.

[quote=streqx]use another cube to throw them all away and get another 6[/quote]

I don't think they're THAT bad then.

Pros: rich people get less rich
Cons: poor people get richer and better items.

Eh doesnt bother me one bit since i no longer play, but why not keep em? If this is the Pay2Win thing players are complaining about, they need to re-evaluate themselves and the game.

[quote=iheroyuri]@ronaldlu see comment above yours[/quote]

use another cube to throw them all away and get another 6

@ronaldlu see comment above yours

If it's easier to get godly items easier I don't really see a big problem then. I don't really see the economical problem of it since I'm not really very knowledgable of that.

[quote=iheroyuri]From that video, are they getting 6 random lines and they choose the ones they want to keep, and then if they cube it again, they lose the lines they had and get another 6 random?[/quote]

Exactly that, it's 6 new lines you can choose from.

My question is can these cubes rank up?

[quote=streqx]Although I don't read Chinese, it appears they lose the lines they previously had.[/quote]

Right, so for every cube you use, you get 6 different lines. You can choose 3 of these lines OR use another cube to throw them all away and get another 6? If it's like this then I don't see it to be all that bad.

its all depending on how easy to get 3 good lines with violet cube. from most videos i saw its kinda crappy. this cube is only good for getting 2lines of drop rate, 2lines of cd reduction on hat, 2lines of crtical dmg or 2 skills on a glove. if its too easy to get 3same lines it should he removed coz its game breaking, if its too hard to get 2 good lines it should be removed too coz not worth the 2.5 dollar.

[quote=iheroyuri]From that video, are they getting 6 random lines and they choose the ones they want to keep, and then if they cube it again, they lose the lines they had and get another 6 random?[/quote]

Although I don't read Chinese, it appears they lose the lines they previously had.

I'd keep em
Willing to purchase NX now which is a big nono
It makes cubing less horrendous for me anyway (someone who has spent less than $20 on cash cubes at least)

well the main problem i predict is watching regular- noobish players hitting extremely high damage.

i really dont want this to happen, scania's dojo are competetive enough already.

um i for one think is a good idea, Most of the community like seeing high numbers but its not very possible to do it without spending tons of cash, This ofc still makes you pay but it makes you pay less then b4 so in a way i think its pretty nice and at least imo this will help me able to solo more bosses on my own since it seems no one these days ever wanna help or talk so its hard life doing everything with low Dmg and low funds

From that video, are they getting 6 random lines and they choose the ones they want to keep, and then if they cube it again, they lose the lines they had and get another 6 random?

[quote=iproducemilk]I truly mean no offense to you by saying this but who cares and what's the point of voting, it's not like nexon will remove them.

OT: I support, sure it devalues god tier items and makes hitting the cap easier and I can see why funded cap hitters would dislike this but the gap between poor and rich is really big atm and this honestly wont make unfunded players stronger since they dont spend $ on the game in the first place. For the average nx spender, they would still need to cube to legendary first on all their gears and that would be pretty pricey, if anything i would expect crap lines legendary items to be worth a bit more since its easier to get optimal lines.

My point is, its not like there's gonna be a bunch more people suddenly hitting cap because of these new cubes, hitting cap will still require hundreds to thousands of dollars so there is still that "prestige"[/quote]

Was curious to see the community's opinion.

I truly mean no offense to you by saying this but who cares and what's the point of voting, it's not like nexon will remove them.

OT: I support, sure it devalues god tier items and makes hitting the cap easier and I can see why funded cap hitters would dislike this but the gap between poor and rich is really big atm and this honestly wont make unfunded players stronger since they dont spend $ on the game in the first place. For the average nx spender, they would still need to cube to legendary first on all their gears and that would be pretty pricey, if anything i would expect crap lines legendary items to be worth a bit more since its easier to get optimal lines.

My point is, its not like there's gonna be a bunch more people suddenly hitting cap because of these new cubes, hitting cap will still require hundreds to thousands of dollars so there is still that "prestige"

lol i dont buy nx just to see bigger numbers.
how i see it is still "pay up if you want it easier"
ehh yeah it hurts less to look at your wallet now, and pride shouldnt mean a thing, but overall it's still "good for you" in my eyes