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I watched the anime variants of Clannad, Fate/Stay Night, and School Days. I liked all three and from what I infer, these anime were derived from visual novels (VN). One day, I was bored and intrigued and looked up the VNs for these games and they're pretty expensive compared to my usual 3DS game. I can understand this because they're usually Japanese imports. Anyway, VNs seem to be known for having H-content and some even go so far as to calling them H-games.

Today, I tried out some certain (free) VN. I don't want to mention it because I don't want to be responsible for outright exposing people to H content. It is actually interesting but I haven't gotten to any H content yet (I know there are some because there's an option to deactivate them). I'd presume by this point some people can tell which VN I am playing.

So, what do you guys think of Visual Novels? Are they simply H-games to you? Do you think they're for perverts and losers?
Do you have any recommended VNs?

September 16, 2013

40 Comments • Newest first

pancakes030

Ace Attorney if you count that

Reply September 19, 2013
2005chuy

[quote=PurityEND]anyone got a good website to find these to DL?[/quote]

I use Nyaa. I've found every VN I've looked for there (which isn't saying much, I only have a handful).

Reply September 19, 2013
voyance

@2005chuy: I finished Emi's route 2 days ago with the good ending. Then retraced and did the other possible endings. Yes, I reached the shed scene. It was funny but I felt bad afterwards. I did get past her 12 year old looks and childlike attitude. When it really mattered, she's more mature than what I've seen from most of the other heroines.

But yeah, that scene was awkward! The coach...then Emi agreed...then Hisao...then Emi was thankful that she had an excuse to not walk because...OMG. I was playing at school too when I reached this scene. My first reaction was to remove the game from full screen and play window mode! Someone walked behind me and I just quickly closed my laptop. I went to my car and continued playing. The other H-scenes in her route were done more properly though (especially the last one).

@Sakurarose8955: May I also have that link you speak of? Are the works DL-able there legit?

Reply September 19, 2013 - edited
PurityEND

anyone got a good website to find these to DL?

Reply September 18, 2013 - edited
sakurarose8955

I found a site to download VN's for free (They all have H content but I don't mind so much I'd rather play for the story or the art)
I haven't played many, but I played the trial for Katawa Shojo awhile back. I played through all the paths for Yume Miru Kusuri and I'd recommend it in a heartbeat it was pretty cool. I also played a really weird one where dogs and cats are humanlike it was just weird idk. In the process of playing through Clannad, and trying to get Dramatical Murder to work.

@PurityEND: I do, but like I said they're all H games so I'm not going to post the link on the thread. I'll PM you with it okay?

Reply September 18, 2013 - edited
2005chuy

[quote=voyance]I'm calling it a night with this. I replayed the game and learned my lesson...saved at every decision point. I still died again and did a better run and reached Emi's route. It feels wrong...she looks like a 12 year old but I'm sure she's older than that. The writers don't seem to be extreme pervs and messed up in the head to place a 12 year old as a potential love interest for Hisao.[/quote]

Did you reach the part in the shed in Emi's route? Easily the funniest moment in the game for me.

Reply September 18, 2013 - edited
voyance

I'm calling it a night with this. I replayed the game and learned my lesson...saved at every decision point. I still died again and did a better run and reached Emi's route. It feels wrong...she looks like a 12 year old but I'm sure she's older than that. The writers don't seem to be extreme pervs and messed up in the head to place a 12 year old as a potential love interest for Hisao.

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
hology

@Irony: A favorite doesn't have to be flawless.
Another example is that my top 3 anime of all time are Aria the Origination, Code Geass R2, and Madoka Magica; but I can think of at least 2 flaws for each right off the bat.

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
Irony

[quote=hology]I read a handful of VNs but my favorite is Muv-Luv Alternative.
The downsides are that:
-You need to read two prequel mediocre VNs to understand the story of Alternative.
-Alternative takes a good 3~5 hours to get going into the good parts.
-Some pacing problems in the mid-game.

There's also some mild gore but I wasn't too disturbed by it.[/quote]

>favourite
>3 downsides

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
hology

I read a handful of VNs but my favorite is Muv-Luv Alternative.
The downsides are that:
-You need to read two prequel mediocre VNs to understand and enjoy the story of Alternative.
-Alternative takes a good 3~5 hours to get going into the good parts.
-Some pacing problems in the mid-game.

There's also some mild gore but I wasn't too disturbed by it.

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
voyance

So, I pushed myself to finishing act 1 of Katawa Shoujo...and I already died . I guess, that's what I get for my apathetic and safe responses.

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
JamesInNinja

Katawa Shoujo is a good VN, lurv it.

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
razormana

[quote=waxson]Dangan Ronpa might be good for you but it's time consuming and its a detective game with each chapter about 10 hours long[/quote]

Dangan ronpa is nowhere near 10 hours long per chapter, its about 10 hours long in total (if you drag out character interactions).
The only "decisions" you can make end up hanging back to the choice if you choose the wrong one. The only possible way for it to be so long per chapter is to hang up and spend ages deciding who to interact with during free time.

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
Ferris

Hatoful Boyfriend. The best.

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
otamegane

@Eshnolat
You had me going there for a second with the first comment. I had doubts whether it was legitimate or not but you still should've left it with that. Why'd you have to make it so obvious with the followup.

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
Eshnolat

I guess I got excited and posted a bit hastily ^-^"

If you like Slice of Life Anime/VNs like Katawa Shoujo, you'd probably really like Yume Miru Kusuri.

One I never hear anyone else mention that I thoroughly enjoyed was Bible Black.

H Pr0ns were derived from it, and although there's a fair bit of H content in the VN, the focus is most certainly the story. I may be a bit biased though, since it's all about the Occult and I'm a bit of an Armchair Magician.

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
Eshnolat

Visual Novels are so ****ing glorious.
It's basically Anime as a CYOA game, focusing purely on the story aspect.
If anyone reading this has never played one go do it right nao.

The H content is present because it's supposed to offer an experience like what the characters would be having in real life. And sex is actually a pretty normal thing in real life, if you're socially active. And it's definitely not a guarantee, there are many without it, and many where it's optional, and in most where it exists it does so in very small amounts.

It's everything that makes Anime good, with everything that makes Books good. A perfect spawn of the two. All of the Strengths, none of the Weaknesses. Shounen-ness is replaced with depth and complexity, for example. When Anime is derived from VNs, they're often simplified. A LOT. Holy snizz.

Anime Fate/Stay Night is simplified so much that... just wow. There is SOOOOOO much more to the VN. And two whole alternate arcs that are VASTLY different stories (both I think better than the original).

I <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 Visual Novels.

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
Yumtoast

[quote=Davyn]Why would you buy a VN? That's almost as bad as buying/paying to watch anime. Just download it and play it.[/quote]
I buy Blu-rays for the special collector's stuff, and I justify spending $60-450 with "I'M SUPPORTING THE ANEMAY INDUSTRY," though I only buy them when I truly like the series.

The same goes with manga -- I buy Comp Ace serializations all the time at Kinokuniya (it's about $9.00 after membership discounts), and September's Nanoha artbook bonus was quite nice. I remember getting an issue of Dengeki G last year for the Kanade (Angel Beats!) dakimakura cover that I never use and the clerk didn't even bat an eye despite a censored preview right in front of the cover. You'd think that after you spend that much cash at a bookstore the cashiers would stop asking to see your ID.

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
kcwt

@2005chuy: I'm going to go through all of them anyway, why not.

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
2005chuy

[quote=kcwt]I treat visual novels exactly as they are, novels with visuals. Playing them just for the H (which isn't much anyway) is quite sad tbh. (Unless of course the VN is focused on H...)

I've only played through Shi_z_une's arc (still haven't finished yet) and all I have to say is [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzqdh_391hA]...[/url][/quote]

lol, you started with worst girl.

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
Davyn

@dr4g0ns1ay3r: Baring a very few select exceptions (two of note being Time of Eve and Little Witch Acadamia 2 which had Kickstarter funds from their respective development studios), the production staff and studios do not receive 90% of the funds from purchased products. If you want to support them, donate directly or import the item of desire from Japan for absurdly high costs. Even then, everything goes towards the license holders and distributors, i.e. Kadokawa and Funimation.

Crunchyroll is the prime example of the bastardized standard. While they advertise that purchasing their membership subscription supports the industry, the portion of money they obtain and don't keep for site funding is sent to the license holders, not the people that actually make the anime. Hell, if it was that simple, paying for something to directly support the creators, then animators would not have worse paychecks than U.S. public teachers.

Above all of that, Japan doesn't give half a crap about purchases from outside of their country. Statistics of sales generally do not include foreign sales.

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
voyance

[quote=waxson]Dangan Ronpa might be good for you but it's time consuming and its a detective game with each chapter about 10 hours long[/quote]

I can't wait to free up some time! I feel like I am at a wine tasting event presented with many different kinds and I'm curious to try them out. (I only used wine as an analogy, I absolutely hate the smell of alcohol beverage...especially when people start reeking of them)

[quote=kcwt]I treat visual novels exactly as they are, novels with visuals. Playing them just for the H (which isn't much anyway) is quite sad tbh.

I've only played through Shi_z_une's arc (still haven't finished yet) and all I have to say is [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzqdh_391hA]...[/url][/quote]

Lol I was about to point out that Misha laughs a tad too much! I didn't get into this in hopes of getting some cheap thrills off VNs. In fact, I wanted to have no H content but I'm afraid that might take away from the experience.

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
kcwt

I treat visual novels exactly as they are, novels with visuals. Playing them just for the H (which isn't much anyway) is quite sad tbh. (Unless of course the VN is focused on H...)

I've only played through Shi_z_une's arc (still haven't finished yet) and all I have to say is [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzqdh_391hA]...[/url]

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
waxson

[quote=voyance]I am happy that I can vary my potential VN habits a bit lol.[/quote]

Dangan Ronpa might be good for you but it's time consuming and its a detective game with each chapter about 10 hours long

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
voyance

[quote=Deciduous]there are good VNs that exist within the realm of normal VN stuff (like the Ever17 or w/e series, for one)
then there's stuff like Saya no Uta, 999, VLR, and Dangan Ronpa that use a VN format to deliver stories that aren't just about romancing girls or sexual content.[/quote]

I am happy that I can vary my potential VN habits a bit lol.

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
waxson

[quote=voyance]I'm not proud to admit it but I can't deny it either. I might fall into this category and I'll belong even more when I start really getting into VNs. What can I do? this is who I am and what I find amusing.[/quote]

ill promise you, you will never get fully into visual novels they'll become too predictable and no fun at all and it's hard to find good VNs nowadays

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
Deciduous

there are good VNs that exist within the realm of normal VN stuff (like the Ever17 or w/e series, for one)
then there's stuff like Saya no Uta, 999, VLR, and Dangan Ronpa that use a VN format to deliver stories that aren't just about romancing girls or sexual content.

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
voyance

[quote=otamegane]They're for weeaboos.[/quote]

I'm not proud to admit it but I can't deny it either. I might fall into this category and I'll belong even more when I start really getting into VNs. What can I do? this is who I am and what I find amusing.

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
2005chuy

If you go to vndb you can find a ton of different vns. There are filters and stuff too to pick you want more easily.
I'd recommend Saya no Uta. It's not exactly for everyone, but it's short and pretty enthralling. You might want to check out screen shots of it before trying it, if you decide to.

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
dr4g0ns1ay3r

[quote=Davyn]Why would you buy a VN? That's almost as bad as buying/paying to watch anime. Just download it and play it.[/quote]

So you will not support a game that you had fun with? You won't buy anime that you enjoyed a lot?

Downloading and watching is fine. But I believe that you should give back if you really enjoy them. Support the company that manufacture them. If you expect great quality anime from that studio then buy their anime.

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
voyance

[quote=Irony]But yeah even though Grisaia is really well made there arent many options/scenarios. It's more liek watching an anime imo[/quote]

If Katawa Shoujo turns out to really amazing for me, I guess I'll start exploring this realm of 'gaming'.

@Davyn: I steer clear of illegally downloading stuff. If possible, I would like to try and support the creators of art in some way shape or form. I usually only download when sampling stuff. For example, I'm curious about an anime. I download it and if I like it, I buy the most reasonable set of DVDs or whatever for that anime. I guess, I'm one of the few.

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
Irony

[quote=Davyn]Why would you buy a VN? That's almost as bad as buying/paying to watch anime. Just download it and play it.[/quote]

[url=http://randomc.net/image/Ore%20no%20Imouto%20ga%20Konnani%20Kawaii%20Wake%20ga%20Nai/Ore%20no%20Imouto%20ga%20Konnani%20Kawaii%20Wake%20ga%20Nai%20-%2009%20-%20Snapshot%2002.jpg]Why not [/url]

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
waxson

@voyance: i agree the musics pretty good they can do better in some scenes though, otherwise the game was a great experience for me the sex scenes were a bit unneeded IMO but it was a nice visual novel to play

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
Davyn

Why would you buy a VN? That's almost as bad as buying/paying to watch anime. Just download it and play it.

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
Irony

But yeah even though Grisaia is really well made there arent many options/scenarios. It's more liek watching an anime imo

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
voyance

[quote=waxson]I don't mind visual novels, but i don't like them personally either. Whether or not they are for perverts depends. Dont think they are H games for the very least. Recommendation: Katawa Shoujo[/quote]

That's the one I am playing now...I just didn't want to 100% advertise them lol.
I'm finding it pretty relatable so far. The MC's options when responding to different scenarios would resemble my real life responses.

EDIT: I love the music

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
Irony

Try Grisaia no Kajitsu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxDnnHnbjb8

I wouldnt read the comments or look at related videos or look into the game before finishing it, there are heavy spoilers.

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
Omegathorion

I played Katawa Shoujo out of curiosity, and I really liked it. The sex scenes were honestly the worst part of the game for me, because they often felt forced and out of character. But they certainly have much more potential than developers usually take advantage of. I would love to see a visual novel creator team up with an interactive fiction creator.

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
waxson

I don't mind visual novels, but i don't like them personally either. Whether or not they are for perverts depends. Dont think they are H games for the very least. Recommendation: Katawa Shoujo

Reply September 16, 2013 - edited
otamegane

They're for weeaboos.

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