About Lhc and the new feature
So most of you have seen what has happened to LHC?
( http://maplestory.nexon.net/news/updates/update-notes/00G7W/#redlionking )
[i]To address player concerns about an imbalance in EXP gained in Lion King's Castle versus other areas aimed at a similar level range, several changes have been made.[/i]
[i]The level requirement to enter maps has been removed.[/i]
[i]Party Play bonus EXP has been removed.[/i]
[i]Monster stats have been adjusted because of the Party Play removal; the monsters are weaker and give EXP that is similar to other monsters in their level range.[/i]
[i]The monster respawn rate has been increased.[/i]
[i]The use of the Mystic Door skill has been limited. [/i]
This is crazy, not just because it's changing the party play thingy, but for many more reasons.
One is those "S>Leech 15m Per Hour" stuff is going to be almost gone. Why? People sold LHC leeches to get some extra $ while training, while it won't decrease their amount of EXP (if you compare it to Party of full attackers vs solo then yes it's a decrease).
Also hackers won't be "stealing" our Mesos from those "S>Leech" stuff. (We get banned for leeching off a hacker)
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[quote=PissingMeOffP]Wow this is so dumb...one of the stupidest things they could of done.[/quote]
so all the other versions had party play exp removed for months/years already?
they better buff the xp of other places or training will be slow as hell again
*sees this*
Evo system time
[quote=ShadeCaro]@MuffinsINC I don't see what you are implying, because grinding isn't exactly fun itself.
Evolution World is really the best thing now.[/quote]
Yeah, but there are alternatives that are far more enjoyable. With evo world you sit in link 3 and just... well... sit there... spamming in one spot. Maybe moving a bit to kill some stray mobs inbetween the mob vacuum. It may be the best but it's by no means enjoyable.
Dimension invasion is far more enjoyable because it varies up the gameplay enough to distract you from the grind. It's actually fun to solo for mobbing classes, and can be quite fun in parties too. It helps you can get some decent 140 gloves for classes you arent heavily funding as well.
I understand with LHC gone, it leaves a lot of room for diverse training, but LHC was like the spot where you could meet many new people and have fun, aside from hackers and stuff. And from my point of view, ksers were funny to watch because they were all stubborn about whose map is whose and such. However, this does create a problem for me because LHC was almost like a second home to me, since I spent much of my time there. Hopefully the revamped maps in Masteria will make up for this nerf. Also, I don't understand how people can constantly grind at Evo World, even with a party. It's so boring and plain and you're basically attacking monsters that aren't real.. At LHC, it seemed much more lively and interesting, even if the music sucked. I guess I've just been so accustomed to training at LHC that it's hard to know we have to just completely adapt to a new place to train. I suppose this could be a good chance for us hardcore LHCers to change our process and do some new things.
@MuffinsINC I don't see what you are implying, because grinding isn't exactly fun itself.
Evolution World is really the best thing now.
As much as I enjoyed LHC, I'm pretty glad for this change.
Besides, everyone just stayed at crockies for eternity anyway. I probably would've been more upset if people actually went further into LHC to train at the more exciting maps.
the exp imbalance at LHC was absolutely ridiculous, and now hopefully other maps around that level range will be used for something other than event item farming.
EDIT: @ShadeCaro
Aliens till 140? Are you absolutely insane? There are many other maps from 110~140 that yield far superior exp than aliens. And also, at 140 you gain access to dimension invasion which is absolutely amazing exp solo. Evo world may be good, but by god does it get boring there.
Basically we are getting the LHC that we were suppose to get some patches ago that Nexon decided to quit because to many players whined that they loved their party play exp.
Not much is going to change.
Aliens to 140, Evolution World to 170.
[quote=lazershock]Theres a ton of threads about this whole LHC thing but, to give some insight its probably the fact that people complain about the lack of diversity in training (which is good, there SHOULD be diversity in training; which is why I like this change, especially since theres other places to train, and new areas =P) with LHC nerfed, people will have to train at a variety of different places.[/quote]
It's amazing how people peg pirates as the complainers then go full cry baby over being told to actually train.
All people do in lhc is leech.
They complain there's never parties or people to train with, then when 2x hits they complain that there is always ksing. Then on a normal day you walk in there and everyone is just hanging off ropes on a crocky map. They don't even fully utilize the whole lhc anymore.
I've trained tons of chars through those levels with out a problem and with out lhc.
They still have options like pqs, events, and so on, so I'm actually glad for this change.
They wanted the game more challenging, well here they go. They can now zip it.
[quote=wrathoffang]just going to have to train with bad exp like lvl 1-110...
it will take forever to level up...what the hell lhc being gone is the worst thing ever.[/quote]
Omg noooo, I was excited to shoot some lazors with my new cannoneer at crockies (Ik, sounds stupid) and see in how much time would I take to kill them. Call me crazy, but I actually found LHC very fun! Evo worls is just.... So boring, spamming in the same place for 30mins each run? You must be kidding me...
Just cause they removed LHC, they're going to be new training spots yes, but at the sametime, watch as the guides update and then players end up meeting each other in the same spots again ._. idk I might be thinking to simple minded.
Where are we going to train now? -_-
FML stupid nexon who gives a **** about exp balance
[quote=richboyliang]wtf i just got my kanna to 110 so i could leech at lkc...now i hear it's being nerfed[/quote]
Lmao! Leech? Seriously. Go train some lol. Also guys are making such a big deal. I am sure there will be a "new" godly training spot after the patch comes out. As I already stated there always the best training area to train at. This won't do anything but make use actually have to search for a new area to be at. I guarentee you ina few weeks if not less there be another training spot where it be crowded like hell and everyone be complaining about being ks'd there. Just like every other training spot we had.
@lazershock: Thank you, that was a very well though out answer. 45 levels in one place does really blow. I'm glad that Singapore and Malasyia are getting a revamp, I would love to venture out there and grind!
wtf i just got my kanna to 110 so i could leech at lkc...now i hear it's being nerfed
[quote=Sarlacc]Not that I sell my doors, but you haven't been able to door into LHC for a very long time.
but I agree, it's going to feel weird without LHC. It feels like an epic dungeon to me, and now it's going to be a linear "better looking" mush kingdom..
EDIT: And what concern? What imblance? How was LHC an imbalance of the game? It was an open area where anyone could go to train. It wasn't a "pros only area" many parties accept people who just want to leech. I allowed leechers so I could get full exp gain.[/quote]
That's the reason why they removed it. Everyone just stayed there. Not to mention unless you were a godly attacker or some sort of support i.e. bishop/kanna you will have a hard time even getting a party there. This now creates more diversity which allows us to find new areas to train at. There have always been new places and we always adjusted to the new training spots. LHC wasn't always here remember.
[quote=Sarlacc]Not that I sell my doors, but you haven't been able to door into LHC for a very long time.
but I agree, it's going to feel weird without LHC. It feels like an epic dungeon to me, and now it's going to be a linear "better looking" mush kingdom..
EDIT: And what concern? What imblance? How was LHC an imbalance of the game? It was an open area where anyone could go to train. It wasn't a "pros only area" many parties accept people who just want to leech. I allowed leechers so I could get full exp gain.[/quote]
Theres a ton of threads about this whole LHC thing but, to give some insight its probably the fact that people complain about the lack of diversity in training (which is good, there SHOULD be diversity in training; which is why I like this change, especially since theres other places to train, and new areas =P) with LHC nerfed, people will have to train at a variety of different places.
2many threads
[quote=Blackop00]
Also the Mystic Door sellers will feel the pain too because the "The level requirement to enter maps has been removed." part.
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Not that I sell my doors, but you haven't been able to door into LHC for a very long time.
but I agree, it's going to feel weird without LHC. It feels like an epic dungeon to me, and now it's going to be a linear "better looking" mush kingdom..
EDIT: And what concern? What imblance? How was LHC an imbalance of the game? It was an open area where anyone could go to train. It wasn't a "pros only area" many parties accept people who just want to leech. I allowed leechers so I could get full exp gain.
[quote=iBattleMages]They only said they'd remove level requirement for getting into LHC, not aliens.[/quote]
Oh yea, forgot about that xD, I will edit all that stuff.
[quote=Blackop00]It wasn't just a LHC nerf.
Also there will be more players because the doors were the only thing stopping most players from entering the map 60-89, but with the Level requirement thing everyone can enter now. That is if they remove the level requirement to enter Aliens.[/quote]
They only said they'd remove level requirement for getting into LHC, not aliens.
People don't realize that they updated Malaysia for the LHC level range lmao
[quote=BladeEdge505]No one's going to Aliens after level 110. It's not going to be flooded just because of Lhc's nerf.[/quote]
Lol nvm about what was here, you're right.
[quote=SireWolfie]I don't level with LHC ne-ways.[/quote]
Explains why you are level 111 xD
[quote=SireWolfie]I don't level with LHC ne-ways.[/quote]
Just because you don't use it doesn't mean other people don't too.
[quote=SireWolfie]It might not be useless depending on the amount of EXP the monsters give and the number of spawns, but it won't be something you can rely on until 160 I'd imagine.[/quote]
People will be able to complete the theme dungeon which is a god send if you need some books. Castle Golems are supposed to be decent if you have some kind of stance/dodge from what I've heard.
[quote=NightAngel66]Are they removing the quest line for Aliens too? You'd still have to be L90 to do it or else you still can't get in.[/quote]
It's only for LHC.
Okay.