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@minipokemon: ikr Nexon's fail attempt at balancing. Punishing the majority just because a few individuals are too op with cap damage.
Would make more sense to at least increase the damage as well so it wouldn't affect the less funded as much.
if you're gonna change it like this then LF>old non-flying meso explosion...

[quote=jollibee]@minipokemon

Meso explosion becomes a monster of a mob skill when your range gets high enough and becomes one of the strongest bossing skill if you cap with it.
I'm just assuming nexon knows this skill is too the dopeness and taking it down a notch
Hopefully all these changes is to amplify 5th job skills when it comes around [/quote]

Yea but.. How many people can actually get the funds to do high damage on it? It requires a lot of funds to actually consider ME to do very good damage. I don't even see many shadowers doing high enough damage on it to consider using it as a bossing move.

@minipokemon

Meso explosion becomes a monster of a mob skill when your range gets high enough and becomes one of the strongest bossing skill if you cap with it.
I'm just assuming nexon knows this skill is too the dopeness and taking it down a notch
Hopefully all these changes is to amplify 5th job skills when it comes around

[quote=SunsetChaos]http://orangemushroom.net/2015/06/12/kmst-ver-1-2-011-character-balancing-pt-2/#more-12518
Aside from meso explosion nerf of 5 second cd, everything else is a buff <3
Assassinate's last hit: 1320% to 700%, 2 hits. that's an 80% increase
Veil of Shadow: 90 seconds to 30, makes up for our slight mobbing nerf on ME.
Can use smokescreen more often too. If only they'd increase ME damage if it's going to have a 5 second cd...[/quote]

I don't get the point of the 5 sec cool down on ME... The %damage on it is pretty low... What's the point of the 5sec cd? Although I don't use it as often, I don't see the point of the cool down...

http://orangemushroom.net/2015/06/12/kmst-ver-1-2-011-character-balancing-pt-2/#more-12518
Aside from meso explosion nerf of 5 second cd, everything else is a buff <3
Assassinate's last hit: 1320% to 700%, 2 hits. that's an 80% increase
Veil of Shadow: 90 seconds to 30, makes up for our slight mobbing nerf on ME.
Can use smokescreen more often too. If only they'd increase ME damage if it's going to have a 5 second cd...

[quote=AntiSenpai]@Stimlexa: If you're going to complain about it, then yes.

Dual Blade is perfectly fine where it is, all you do is complain about it.

You're right though, there really is no need to talk to you, so after this we can be done.[/quote]

We were done as soon as you showed how ignorant you are.

@Stimlexa: If you're going to complain about it, then yes.

Dual Blade is perfectly fine where it is, all you do is complain about it.

You're right though, there really is no need to talk to you, so after this we can be done.

[quote=AntiSenpai]@Stimlexa: That's just being ignorant.

The class is very balanced, it's fast but has low % on their attack, with FC you get to maximize your damage and then you get hard hitting + fast.

If you cannot afford to play the class, that doesn't make it unbalanced, it just means you can't afford it so stop trying to seek buffs that are not needed.

If everyone paid the same then there would be no variety and people would only play the highest possible HPS class, Dual Blade is balanced, it just cost more.

To put it simply, if you cannot afford it, do not complain about it.

Sorry, being blunt is the best way to get people to understand.[/quote]

You dare call me ignorant when you continuously assume I can't afford something? Yeah, I'll pass on this.

@Stimlexa: That's just being ignorant.

The class is very balanced, it's fast but has low % on their attack, with FC you get to maximize your damage and then you get hard hitting + fast.

If you cannot afford to play the class, that doesn't make it unbalanced, it just means you can't afford it so stop trying to seek buffs that are not needed.

If everyone paid the same then there would be no variety and people would only play the highest possible HPS class, Dual Blade is balanced, it just cost more.

To put it simply, if you cannot afford it, do not complain about it.

Sorry, being blunt is the best way to get people to understand.

[quote=AntiSenpai]Dual Blade doesn't need any increases, it's balanced the way it is, low %s and high AF attack speed + a ton of extra attack from Katara, there is really nothing to complain about with DB, it's not a beginner class, It requires a lot of funds to play, why do you always complain about it? If you can't afford it and only complain about it then change jobs.[/quote]

Hey, if you like paying more for no real reason, more power to you. But I don't, and I don't need to like it because someone else does. And you might want to check up on "balance" there. If everything was balanced, everyone would be paying the same amounts for each class. Hence the term balanced.

[quote=Stimlexa]I refuse to believe Nexon even remembers we exist, let alone will give us the increases we sorely need.[/quote]

Dual Blade doesn't need any increases, it's balanced the way it is, low %s and high AF attack speed + a ton of extra attack from Katara, there is really nothing to complain about with DB, it's not a beginner class, It requires a lot of funds to play, why do you always complain about it? If you can't afford it and only complain about it then change jobs.

@powerguy121 sounds dope to me.

Phantoms op hurricane skill bypasses DR gg

I refuse to believe Nexon even remembers we exist, let alone will give us the increases we sorely need.

[quote=cuddymd]I remember back when shadow stars had almost 0 delay, you could practically cast it while walking. I miss that[/quote]

Remember when Shadow Partner was the only Hermit skill to have a long delay? Good times.

Love how they didn't touch any of Dbs/Nls attacking skills, besides the exp feature of showdown, which doesn't count.

Man Assassinate sure has fallen it gets uglier and uglier </3 I like Night Rod Lol.

Looks like a buff for DB <3 I knew Nexon wouldn't let us down. Now LF> 100% avoid again plz jk I know that's too op.

I remember back when shadow stars had almost 0 delay, you could practically cast it while walking. I miss that

[quote=Buster1651]What is 4 seasons and Spirit Javelin lmao[/quote]

Spirit javelin is Shadow Star.

People still use Meso Guard now? o.o

So from what I'm getting here, as a DB,
1. we get a buff equivalent to FC upon death
2. we don't have to fully charge FC to get the full 60% dmg boost
3. Asura's % dmg is decreased but 1-2 line is added.
Not bad

@ForeverNL That's nice too

They cut the damage in half though, so it only really helps if you were hitting way over cap with it.

[quote=SpiritBag]Adding a cooldown to meso explosion makes it pretty useless

30 second cooldown shadow veil is pretty amazing though[/quote]

The extra lines on the final blow is not amazing kappa.

Adding a cooldown to meso explosion makes it pretty useless

30 second cooldown shadow veil is pretty amazing though

http://www.insoya.com/bbs/zboard.php?id=ucc&divpage=11&no=55917
Post shadower changes.
They gave shadowers 2 extra lines on their final blow and they're allowed to attack move with assassinate.

[quote=SpiritBag]I hope that says we can use assassinate while jumping.[/quote]

I believe it does, already making a new DKhan just for this.

Pretty solid changes for shadowers imo!

I hope that says we can use assassinate while jumping.

Why would they reduce the item deuropyul amount for showdown? That's one of the best perks of being a Night Rod </3 I just hope it's a small 10% or something..

[quote=Buster1651]What is 4 seasons and Spirit Javelin lmao[/quote]

4 seasons is the lvl 170 Nightlord hyper skill.
As for spirit javelin no idea

What is 4 seasons and Spirit Javelin lmao

[b]night rod[/b]

night rod

For Shadower, do you know what uhhh Religion Methodist Explorer is? ...