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@Lecarde: The way you're talking combined with your earlier post of 60% censored words is why no one takes you seriously. You're acting like a whiny brat pretending he's not upset. Now you're claiming the guy you're arguing with is saying reboot will fail and you're trying to defend it? You just changed sides and straight up threw words into his mouth...

My opinion on the reboot server is simple: If you like it play it. If you don't go back to your own server. I'll try it out and i'll probably enjoy it. That's me though.

A challenge arises! Coming back for this

There's some benefits such as you can learn all 5 professions on one character. Funding is essentially easier with the accessibility of constant cubes other than Meister's and Master Craftsman Cubes, but that's the whole point of professions and Elite boss hunting then. Honestly, with the Reboot passive it basically has the same effects as fully scrolling your items with the best scrolls possible, as it works like a Total Damage % Legendary Potential maxed out. I personally think Reboot is good for newbies, people who want all professions, people who want bosses to be challenging, only use NX for pets and cosmetics and etc so it'll be fine. in KMS the old servers did not phase out as the people who wanted to stay there stayed there, and Reboot was just as good as any other server, except Reboot always has 2x every week on Thursdays I think? With the Reboot(basically star force empowered without the star force limits) enemies, until you raise your character to 140 as a cygnus or whatever else, you're going to have a very difficult start which is why you get the boxes that give you about 600 m mesos total to start out. Considering unless you use Chaos Scrolls of Goodness or something with high results anyways, the Reboot passive probably is better. But if you don't like being unable to solo bosses as easily, probably not the server for you. Gear is easy to come across with the new Toad's Hammer thing, continually moving your star force all the way up into your CRA set, making them have 9 stars each with how it works, but Toad's Hammer isn't exclusive to the server. I think I can keep going on and on, why not experience it for yourself later? Also if people want to spend NX, it's their choice and their money. There's no shame in it unless they feel ashamed.
Also sorry for double posting :V
I don't think an edit would have been enough

plz all go play and main a char in reboot server so normal server can be noob free, plz do not return ever. thx

@leechingto250 i thought u support the reboot server lmao, now u dont like it?

obviously u didnt play pre bb, the fun abt pre bb is explorering the maps,quest and pq, the current ms is focusing on grind and making better gears.

i dont give a shxt if nexon gonna bring us reboot server or not i dont care i will enjoy normal ms server wiht less noob.

But if nexon decide to make a real pre bb server even if its pay to play, i will support it rather than the stupid remake of current maplstory, its boring. why would i wanna experience the same content?

Reboot servers are the same as any other server in korea. There's a special passive called Reboot making up for no scrolls and making levels matter. Potentials and star forcing really matter alot there. It is easier to get high damage but harder to cap. All monsters are star forced without needing a threshold of star forced items, making Zakum a challenge even. Start a class that needs funding and/or want to try out, a box for first character at lv 30 60 90 and 120 that gives mesos and cubes. All i can say for now, on phone and i suck at texting

I think that the reboot server will be something that I wouldn't mind playing in but that I probably wouldn't invest a lot of time into.

[quote=Leechingto250]It's not my fault the credit card heroes find my words provocative. I'm just laying it out there: Reboot world will destroy the current servers.[/quote]
Will you be available to laugh at when/if the servers come?

[quote=Momijii]I could go on and on and on, but I won't (unless I have to). Reboot has the potential to be successful, but I won't hold my breath. Ultimately I think it'll end up just like Supreme: over-hyped, massively popular initially, then deserted except for a few dedicated players.[/quote]

Not to mention, Supreme World was closed solely for the reason of lack of resources. Major bugs appeared in the server and couldn't be fixed in a reasonable amount of time, which lead to it's final collapse.

There are still questions concerning this "boot server", for example is the leveling system going to stay the same? Are they removing potential from this world?, How will people train at end game mobs if they don't have enough range to do CRA? Are they going to weaken the bosses to match non-potential players? Are they going to start totally from the beginning? When it was just victoria island?
So much uncertainty.

It definitely has me interested. I love playing self-found/self-made in all of my MMO's that allow it.

I've put a lot of work into my account, but I wouldn't mind switching. Most of the cash I've spent has been on pets and shops. It really just depends on how far Nexon keeps making changes to PaytoWin in the main servers, and how low the droprates are on the new server. Maplestory is one of my more casual games that I binge on during the summer (and sometimes Christmas), and rarely touch the rest of the year.

@iEatDodo: Yeah but you can say all of that while enjoying the comforts of what has happened post-Big Bang. It's one thing to be reflective and say that and completely another to actually be playing during that time. People love to talk mad game about how pre-BB (or even pre-potential) was amazing and was just the perfect part of the game, but I'd be willing to bet that if you threw them in that period again after having already experienced 2015-Maple, they'd take modern Maple back over pre-BB.

I could go on and on and on, but I won't (unless I have to). Reboot has the potential to be successful, but I won't hold my breath. Ultimately I think it'll end up just like Supreme: over-hyped, massively popular initially, then deserted except for a few dedicated players. I also don't get why we're so excited right now when we really have no information on the server itself other than "we're reducing cash dependency."

I will personally support this server 110%. All of you saying good luck with scrolling items and such, you are supporting the reason this game failed in the first place. Quick availability to everything this game offers was the downfall. The fast levels, the easily obtained perfected equips, the 2 second movement between continents, the lack of feeling achievement in what you've done, etc. When it took nothing but luck and hard work to get those equips that made you better than others, when it took actual time and skill to hit 3rd or 4th job, or even the 10-15 minutes it took to go between continents. It all made the game thrive. It made the game tougher. It created community. I personally miss the old map layout the most but back on topic, that amount of time you spent waiting to achieve whatever you were achieving at the time, slowed the game down just enough to make you actually enjoy what you were doing. I could go on and on about why this game failed, but point being, those who support any sense of pay to win and fast, quick, game play, you made the game fail.

[quote=Leechingto250]It's not my fault the credit card heroes find my words provocative. I'm just laying it out there: Reboot world will destroy the current servers.[/quote]

I spend money on this game because I have a billion other games that I want to spend time on as well.
NX just makes Maple easier, so that you don't have to spend hours merching and grinding events for all your money.
A lot of NX users are the same as me, they just prefer to gain time by throwing in spare cash.

[quote=Leechingto250]This is the playstyle pre-bb. Your damage depended on time spent leveling, not on merching or NX.[/quote]
You didn't play pre-BB....did you?

[quote=Simroh1]@Leechingto250:
might for a few days..... but not really. I dont think people would find this kind of playstyle appealing, considering they are already making massive changes to normal servers[/quote]

This is the playstyle pre-bb. Your damage depended on time spent leveling, not on merching or NX.

[quote=Leechingto250]It's not my fault the credit card heroes find my words provocative. I'm just laying it out there: Reboot world will destroy the current servers.[/quote]

I honestly wouldnt notice if the game went dead or not because i just afk in obscure spots alone forever lol. Dont worry im just a credit card hero to you though.

[quote=Simroh1]@Leechingto250:
meh. people who have spent $10k+ have literally nothing to worry about. Reboot server is a completely different server. However, you shouldnt be attacking other people for their opinions. Instead, you should tell them in a non-attacking, non provocative manner.

IQ doesnt matter when you are talking bout a game. Chill dude. 2m-2m range without spending aint so hard anyways.[/quote]

It's not my fault the credit card heroes find my words provocative. I'm just laying it out there: Reboot world will destroy the current servers.

[quote=Leechingto250]Salty? I'm laughing my ass off at the people who spent $10,000+ on this game like that guy on the Nexon forums whining about the reboot server.

It feels so good to have a high IQ and get a 2m ~ 2m range without spending a single cent on this game.
It must suck to have a mediocre IQ that you needed to spend money to get a 2m ~ 2m range.[/quote]

What, not going to respond do anything on my other post?
I don't know a single guy who spent over $10k on this game.
Link to the guy complaining about the reboot server? I couldn't seem to find it.
How would you know other peoples' IQs? Money spent on a game =/= IQ. Financial status =/= IQ.
You're claiming you have a 2m ~ 2m range yet you won't even add your character to basil. For all we know you could be some level 150 guy still using emp.
Stop the troll or get off the site

[quote=Simroh1][quote=Leechingto250]Hahahaha... I just love the denial from the credit card heroes. This is raising their blood pressure to astronomical levels. Reboot world will destroy the pay2win model and the credit card heroes have their tummies on the floor stomping the floor with their hands and feet like an infant who didn't get his daily milk dosage from his mother's breast.

Hey, don't worry. Just spend some more NX on cubes. That usually takes your mind away from stress.

why so salty >_>
have a snickers
http://lolsnaps.com/upload_pic/KimHaveASnickers-23386.jpg[/quote]

Salty? I'm laughing my ass off at the people who spent $10,000+ on this game like that guy on the Nexon forums whining about the reboot server.

It feels so good to have a high IQ and get a 2m ~ 2m range without spending a single cent on this game.
It must suck to have a mediocre IQ that you needed to spend money to get a 2m ~ 2m range.

Please do not feed the troll, you are simply making them stronger.

[quote=Leechingto250]If there weren't any botters, Nexon would make it easier to get slates/cubes/prots/cubics, so the amount in circulation would still be the same.[/quote]

Really? Because nexon didn't release ebosses so that botters could abuse them. They released them so players could get items more easily. They didn't expect botters to take over ebosses, and if what you're saying is true, then nexon would've made it even easier to get them right off the bat.

Also, small ironic side note: You're complaining about botters yet you clearly have the ign of one.

[quote=Leechingto250]Hahahaha... I just love the denial from the credit card heroes.[/quote]
Its really funny how you act as if everybody just throws money to nexon's face and attempts to get funded instantly. Look at the guy you just tried to insult. Hes using the free DA horns and level 80 shoes (http://www.basilmarket.com/MapleStory-item-Dark-Pirate-Boots-1501.html). Open your eyes a little to the people around you. Stop being arrogant and open your mind to any ideas besides your own. Notice how everybody around you is just arguing about how you're wrong? Take a hint buddy

Maplestorys a free game. Nexon allows you to download it and play it for free. They have to make their money somewhere besides the 5 people per world that buy the 90 day nx outfits.
I don't even understand why you care so much if other people spend money on the game. Its their money; they can do what they want with it. Nobodys asking you to pay your own money. You don't even have to pay to get far in this game.
I've only bought 50k nx in the past few years, yet my current character(made in jan 2014) is above a 1m range. Before that, my highest range was 70k. Sure, maplestory might be pay to win, but theres still plenty of ways to get around it. Learn to abuse events, farm your bosses for cubes and reward points every day.

What complaints can you make, that these funded players are making CRA, sup gollux, and tyrants drop in price? Without these really funded players, there would be none of these in the fm. Think about back when tyrants were a couple hundred dollars and when CRA was over 10b per piece. You may be like "Oh thats not that bad, I'll just use emp!" If you played during that time, compare your range with emp to your current range. If you play frequently and fund, I'm sure your previous range is absolutely nothing compared to your current range.

It's just going to be the new spot for socializing that's all. Get a grip guys.

this isnt gonna ruin the game tbh.. if anything it'll be something kinda to do on downtime for pro players... like after u do your weekly/dailies bosses and stuff you can just go on that server and kinda just play around with things. DEFINTELY wont kill the game tho

@Leechingto250: I have never used a credit card to buy NX. And in my 9 years of playing I have bought less than 50k NX in total. Stop calling me a whale, you know nothing about me and how I play this game. I like reboot server. I do not like your clueless attempt at trying to make people hate it. Just stop already. You have zero idea what you are talking about and are obviously a troll account.

[quote=Leechingto250]I agree. Your damage will be based more on level than on how much NX you put into your character like how it was in 2005-2008.

Can't wait to see Scania, Bera, Windia, and other pay2win servers come crashing down once reboot server goes active. <3
Only 8 people will be online in Scania.

If there weren't any botters, Nexon would make it easier to get slates/cubes/prots/cubics, so the amount in circulation would still be the same.
Also, reboot world probably won't have any of those items. The enhancement system will be simplified. Your damage will be primarily based on how much time you spent doing 'mmorpg activities' like grinding and PQs. Monster HP will probably be adjusted down.[/quote]
I can absolutely guarantee you this will not kill Scania, Bera, or Windia. You're way to excited about this event that you think it's going too change the whole game.
People don't generally like to start completely fresh in a whole new world. They like familiarity, and staying in somewhere they know. And people like having their advantage with their Nx and other funds, so it's not like the population is going to go down to "8 people."

I said it once and I'll say it again: Supreme. It failed. Reboot won't be as catastrophic, but it won't go well.

[quote=Lecarde]@Leechingto250: Dude, just f***** stop already. Stop claiming this is going to kill the game, because it f***** won't. Alright. It will not leave the other servers with noone online. Just stop trying, its so goddamn annoying.[/quote]

Hahahaha... I just love the denial from the credit card heroes. This is raising their blood pressure to astronomical levels. Reboot world will destroy the pay2win model and the credit card heroes have their tummies on the floor stomping the floor with their hands and feet like an infant who didn't get his daily milk dosage from his mother's breast.

Hey, don't worry. Just spend some more NX on cubes. That usually takes your mind away from stress.

[quote=ThotsRUs]l-i-n-k?[/quote]

http://orangemushroom.net/2015/06/17/developers-note-maplestory-reboot-update-introduction-2-and-3/

[quote=Leechingto250]I said no botters messing up the economy, because the economy will be nonexistent.[/quote]

They'll just adapt. They will bot accounts to high levels, farm equips, and sell the accounts off for money. My prediction is that people try it out, and after a week to a month realize it's boring as hell and go back to their original characters.

[quote=IHurtzLotz]doesnt mean that there wont be botters.. they'll always be botters its just wont be as efficient[/quote]

I said no botters messing up the economy, because the economy will be nonexistent.

[quote=Leechingto250]You're forgetting the 2 most important parts: No pay2win and no botters messing up the economy due to trade restriction. That will be enough to entice the vast majority of the remaining players to move. Population in other servers will hit single-digit numbers once reboot world goes online.

Also, I don't see the need for trade if Nexon balances item drop properly and keeps their word about progress and improved strength doing MMORPG activities like grinding and PQs.

There will probably be some challenge in getting the equips you want.
There will probably be no cubes and hammers, only scrolling like old MS. Monsters will probably be nerfed accordingly.[/quote]

doesnt mean that there wont be botters.. they'll always be botters its just wont be as efficient

I think it'll go something like this:

People migrate over to Reboot, get all salty that you can't grind to godliness in a month, then go back to their established worlds because "grinding for equips/mesos too hard".

They should give us the option to use our chars on those servers. No ks during 2x, I would like it.

@Leechingto250: Dude, just f***** stop already. Stop claiming this is going to kill the game, because it f***** won't. Alright. It will not leave the other servers with noone online. Just stop trying, its so goddamn annoying.

[quote=Lecarde]I really like the idea. It puts everyone on eqaul footing. There won't be any more merchants who can fully fund a character the minute it comes out. Instead everyone will have to work for their damage, like it used to be. You'll know that someone hitting high damage actually earned that, instead of having a fat wallet[/quote]

I agree. Your damage will be based more on level than on how much NX you put into your character like how it was in 2005-2008.

Can't wait to see Scania, Bera, Windia, and other pay2win servers come crashing down once reboot server goes active. <3
Only 8 people will be online in Scania.

[quote=stevenman76]Its pretty funny that everybody complains about the botters. Without the botters there would be hardly any slates/cubes/prots/cubics. Have fun perfecting all your equips without them.[/quote]

If there weren't any botters, Nexon would make it easier to get slates/cubes/prots/cubics, so the amount in circulation would still be the same.
Also, reboot world probably won't have any of those items. The enhancement system will be simplified. Your damage will be primarily based on how much time you spent doing 'mmorpg activities' like grinding and PQs. Monster HP will probably be adjusted down.

[quote=Leechingto250]You're forgetting the 2 most important parts: No pay2win and no botters messing up the economy due to trade restriction.[/quote]

Its pretty funny that everybody complains about the botters. Without the botters there would be hardly any slates/cubes/prots/cubics. Have fun perfecting all your equips without them.

I really like the idea. It puts everyone on eqaul footing. There won't be any more merchants who can fully fund a character the minute it comes out. Instead everyone will have to work for their damage, like it used to be. You'll know that someone hitting high damage actually earned that, instead of having a fat wallet

I like the idea. back to amoria I go to kill jr.lionels for mesos

And we all thought Supreme was amazing until that hype died down.

[quote=IHurtzLotz]so apparently a lot of people on basil are getting the wrong idea about KMS new update of "reboot server"
it doesnt turn the current servers into the reboot server... its pretty much a brand new server where u pretty much play single player maplestory because u cant trade and stuff... its pretty much a rip off of Runescape's new "iron man" thing that isnt really that new anymore. You start off on a brand new character and have to collection everything you use on your own such as equips/cubes/potions and etc. It's pretty much kinda like a solo privserver maplestory except you can see other players and socialize but u cant trade them or drop trade them anything as it will say " you can not pick up this item"[/quote]

You're forgetting the 2 most important parts: No pay2win and no botters messing up the economy due to trade restriction. That will be enough to entice the vast majority of the remaining players to move. Population in other servers will hit single-digit numbers once reboot world goes online.

Also, I don't see the need for trade if Nexon balances item drop properly and keeps their word about progress and improved strength doing MMORPG activities like grinding and PQs.

[quote=enickma]So? if everything will be free whats the point of staying in the normal server? cus your lv 250? who cares, that takes like what a few weeks to get to, if cubes and stuff are free then who cares about your godly crap, its kinda useless at that point[/quote]

There will probably be some challenge in getting the equips you want.
There will probably be no cubes and hammers, only scrolling like old MS. Monsters will probably be nerfed accordingly.

So? if everything will be free whats the point of staying in the normal server? cus your lv 250? who cares, that takes like what a few weeks to get to, if cubes and stuff are free then who cares about your godly crap, its kinda useless at that point

i think we all knew this but most of the population on the main servers will move to this server

That sounds pretty cool.