[quote=Luapxal344]Good thing he said he could only use Nosferatu a limited amount of times because that attack would have wrecked the game and Lucina is too awesome btw[/quote]
o.O your right. Is Nosferatu actually has the drain health effect, that would be broken. Are there any other smash chars that have heal moves?
edit: I just realized the tome switching is a play off of the weapons breaking in the game after so many uses. Man I am geeking out way too much over this.
[quote=Luapxal344]Good thing he said he could only use Nosferatu a limited amount of times because that attack would have wrecked the game and Lucina is too awesome btw[/quote]
All of his tomes are like that, after they all run out of charges he (supposedly) switches to a Levin Sword, or if that isn't true he just uses the Bronze Sword only as seen in the pictures on the smash website.
[quote=Thiefy996]His character design looks ludicrously out of place. But that is probably because he originally was simply a yellow ball missing a chunk, not a short-limbed abomination. He looks like Kirby's special cousin that everyone would like to forget about. Besides there's plenty of other third-party-characters that would have fitted in far better. How about Klonoa (from the series of the same name), or they might have tried getting Square Enix (is it just one now? Square OR Enix? Hell if I know) to throw in Geno from Mario's Legend of the Seven Stars. Anyone who would have had an actual moveset because their games required them to HAVE moves.[/quote]
[quote=Thiefy996]His character design looks ludicrously out of place. But that is probably because he originally was simply a yellow ball missing a chunk, not a short-limbed abomination. He looks like Kirby's special cousin that everyone would like to forget about. Besides there's plenty of other third-party-characters that would have fitted in far better. How about Klonoa (from the series of the same name), or they might have tried getting Square Enix (is it just one now? Square OR Enix? Hell if I know) to throw in Geno from Mario's Legend of the Seven Stars. Anyone who would have had an actual moveset because their games required them to HAVE moves.[/quote] What! Have you not play the Pac-Man world trilogy they were amazing. And he fits in perfectly imo. Do you know how stupid Nintendo would have been NOT putting him in with Sonic, Megaman and Mario. It a match made in heaven. <3 I do like Geno as well but this is bloody Pac-Man is video game icon. I could care less for Klonoa.
[quote=Ecyz]I think his Smashes might be the Levin and his Specials the tomes.[/quote]
edit: NVM misread.
But Robin does say he can only use the Tomes so many times and that's why he has the Levin. I dunno. Its also possible if you run out of the element books you default to Levin+Dark Tome.
[quote=bluebomber24]I just noticed that Robin has two swords. I think one is that weak arse Iron Sword, while the other is clearly the Levin.
Edit: When I look at it, it seems that maybe Robin has a Pikmin like system where he goes through the various tomes. But I think he can run out (perma or temp), and then he switches from the Iron Sword to the Levin. Theoretically outside of maybe power the Levin Set would not even change gameplay when compared to the Tome Set.
What do you guys think of that theory?[/quote] I think his Smashes might be the Levin and his Specials the tomes.
I just noticed that Robin has two swords. I think one is that weak arse Iron Sword, while the other is clearly the Levin.
Edit: When I look at it, it seems that maybe Robin has a Pikmin like system where he goes through the various tomes. But I think he can run out (perma or temp), and then he switches from the Iron Sword to the Levin. Theoretically outside of maybe power the Levin Set would not even change gameplay when compared to the Tome Set.
[quote=Thiefy996]Damn, Robin and Lucina are a great addition (and a huge relief after the disappointment that was Pacman). Loved FE: Awakening. Though the amount of Fire Emblem characters does trouble me somewhat. Never was a huge fan of Marth or Ike (Roy I kinda liked), and perhaps they could've represented some other Nintendo franchises more.[/quote] Wait.. How the hell was Pac-Man a disappointment? o.o
@bluebomber24: Well last year they had a Nintendo direct every few months, so the next one should be August if they follow that pattern again this year. Everyone's been speculating that the next reveal would be during the next direct (which is about Nintendo in general not just smash), but this one was unexpected so I can't tell if they're done with reveals or not since people were already saying ness/lucas, snake, are possibly being cut.
@ox0Shad0w0xo: what do you mean August? Are they revealing monthly? The safest bet would be a Nintendo char that ppl want. Don't know if ppl been asking for one of the F-Zero villains. But that could work especially if Ganandorf doesn't return. Although I wonder if they have a Snake replacement.
[quote=bluebomber24]@ox0Shad0w0xo: Any game that has 1-2 chars and gains 1-2 more will seem excessive to the other 1-2 chars. Also, games like Sonic and Rayman isn't owned by Nintendo so contract agreements can be hard. Megaman FINALLY coming is a prime example.[/quote]
True enough. Now I'm curious what will happen (if anything) in August. People were so sure it would be chrom next, but now the predictions were wrong after pacman and palutena being right.
@ox0Shad0w0xo: Any game that has 1-2 chars and gains 1-2 more will seem excessive to the other 1-2 chars. Also, games like Sonic and Rayman isn't owned by Nintendo so contract agreements can be hard. Megaman FINALLY coming is a prime example.
@bluebomber24: Excessive compared to games that aren't represented yet, or games like sonic (he's the sole rep of his game lol). But catching up is one way of looking at it too. Just wasn't expecting FE to go from 2 reps, 2 games in a row to this. Really came out of nowhere, even though people were pulling for Chrom pretty hard because of Gematsu.
[quote=ox0Shad0w0xo]Wasn't expecting [i]two[/i] more fire emblem reps. Now that puts FE at 4, which seems a bit excessive, especially with Lucina doing the exact same moves as Marth in the Trailer. A few people say her moves looked slower than Marths, like Roy's were, so she might be a Roy replacement. We'll just have to wait and see. Hopefully we still get one more reveal trailer in the Nintendo Direct Next month.[/quote]
Wasn't expecting [i]two[/i] more fire emblem reps. Now that puts FE at 4, which seems a bit excessive, especially with Lucina doing the exact same moves as Marth in the Trailer. A few people say her moves looked slower than Marths, like Roy's were, so she might be a Roy replacement. We'll just have to wait and see. Hopefully we still get one more reveal trailer in the Nintendo Direct Next month.
Four Fire Emblem characters seem excessive. I mean, they could've added so much more variety. Nintendo said they're on their last character reveals. Rayman would've been a great addition, but nope just a trophy. Golden Sun character/s would've been great. Overall, it's not as great as I thought it would be.
[quote=qwertyfoxster]http://www.smashbros.com/us/ Isn't it a little strange every other newcomer has a big box and her's is little? I'm not saying "NO YOURE WRONG" but I'm hoping you are.[/quote]
she is a character, not an alt. charizard is new as an individual character, but was considered an update. either way, i thought it was a great the way captain falcon's return announcement was handled. so far, i like all of the characters that are being brought into smash bros.
http://www.smashbros.com/us/ Isn't it a little strange every other newcomer has a big box and her's is little? I'm not saying "NO YOURE WRONG" but I'm hoping you are.
[quote=Ecyz]I know, I played Awakening I meant gameplay. She could really be an Alt costume. Hopefully.
I stand by Chrom being part of Robin's FS. It's just way way way too obvious from the video. Robin even says "Chrom, on my mark" and they attack Falcon in tandem.[/quote]
I'm with this guy. Hopefully Lucina is a Marth alt. No room for clones in this limited roster.
[quote=imtwocats]@ImaClubYou: Robin and Captain Falcon are also labeled with update. It just means the character roster has been updated with them.[/quote]
Indeed.
Other arguments. From the short video, she has the same exact moveset as Marth even when Sakurai claimed to never cloning characters. She has the same exact idle animation as Marth, being she puts her hand over her chest/heart. All newcomers aside from Mii Fighters have their own official art banner, Lucina does not.
[quote=imtwocats]Ecyz: Lucina and Chrom are descendents of Marth.[/quote] I know, I played Awakening I meant gameplay. She could really be an Alt costume. Hopefully.
I stand by Chrom being part of Robin's FS. It's just way way way too obvious from the video. Robin even says "Chrom, on my mark" and they attack Falcon in tandem.
I was excited for Lucina until I saw her in action... every move they showed was one of Marth's What happened to "no more clones" Sakurai? </3. At least Robin looks interesting and yay CF is back
*EDIT* After looking again I'm pretty sure she's just a Marth alt costume... look carefully at the site and she doesn't have a newcomer box like every other new character does, her's is small... I hope/predict she's a Marth alt while Chrom will be a secret character and it's his final smash they showed in the vid, trying to make it look like hers.
**EDIT TO MY EDIT (lol) Third look gives me the impression that Chrom is just part of Robin's final smash, not Lucina's, not a stand alone character.
[quote=ImaClubYou]Nah, Lucina is an alternate costume of Marth, and Chrom is yet to be officially recognized.
Really, the best part of this was Captain Falcon, lol. They really know how to make him.
I'm also wondering what the Xenoblade fans are thinking.[/quote] Chrom is a FS 100%, watch it again. Lucina has her own slot on the website, and it says Newcomer
I'm a Xenoblade fan but any character reveal is nice. My brother loves FE and he's disappointed.
[quote=Ecyz]Yup, I rewatched it and Chrom is definitely Robin's FS. And Lucina looks literally the same as Marth, what are you doing Sakurai don't take the games so literally[/quote]
Nah, Lucina is an alternate costume of Marth, and Chrom is yet to be officially recognized.
Really, the best part of this was Captain Falcon, lol. They really know how to make him.
I'm also wondering what the Xenoblade fans are thinking.
Yup, I rewatched it and Chrom is definitely Robin's FS. And Lucina looks literally the same as Marth, what are you doing Sakurai don't take the games so literally
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[quote=Luapxal344]Good thing he said he could only use Nosferatu a limited amount of times because that attack would have wrecked the game and Lucina is too awesome btw[/quote]
o.O your right. Is Nosferatu actually has the drain health effect, that would be broken. Are there any other smash chars that have heal moves?
edit: I just realized the tome switching is a play off of the weapons breaking in the game after so many uses. Man I am geeking out way too much over this.
[quote=Luapxal344]Good thing he said he could only use Nosferatu a limited amount of times because that attack would have wrecked the game and Lucina is too awesome btw[/quote]
All of his tomes are like that, after they all run out of charges he (supposedly) switches to a Levin Sword, or if that isn't true he just uses the Bronze Sword only as seen in the pictures on the smash website.
Good thing he said he could only use Nosferatu a limited amount of times because that attack would have wrecked the game and Lucina is too awesome btw
[quote=Thiefy996]His character design looks ludicrously out of place. But that is probably because he originally was simply a yellow ball missing a chunk, not a short-limbed abomination. He looks like Kirby's special cousin that everyone would like to forget about.
Besides there's plenty of other third-party-characters that would have fitted in far better. How about Klonoa (from the series of the same name), or they might have tried getting Square Enix (is it just one now? Square OR Enix? Hell if I know) to throw in Geno from Mario's Legend of the Seven Stars. Anyone who would have had an actual moveset because their games required them to HAVE moves.[/quote]
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9c/Pac-Man_2_-_The_New_Adventures_Coverart.png
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q186/Soaprman/imagefests/pacman2-1/pacman2-1-058.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/52/Pac-Man_World_3.jpg
Pacman has actually been shown with limbs for a long time.
[quote=Thiefy996]His character design looks ludicrously out of place. But that is probably because he originally was simply a yellow ball missing a chunk, not a short-limbed abomination. He looks like Kirby's special cousin that everyone would like to forget about.
Besides there's plenty of other third-party-characters that would have fitted in far better. How about Klonoa (from the series of the same name), or they might have tried getting Square Enix (is it just one now? Square OR Enix? Hell if I know) to throw in Geno from Mario's Legend of the Seven Stars. Anyone who would have had an actual moveset because their games required them to HAVE moves.[/quote]
What!
Have you not play the Pac-Man world trilogy they were amazing.
And he fits in perfectly imo.
Do you know how stupid Nintendo would have been NOT putting him in with Sonic, Megaman and Mario. It a match made in heaven. <3
I do like Geno as well but this is bloody Pac-Man is video game icon.
I could care less for Klonoa.
[quote=Ecyz]I think his Smashes might be the Levin and his Specials the tomes.[/quote]
edit: NVM misread.
But Robin does say he can only use the Tomes so many times and that's why he has the Levin. I dunno. Its also possible if you run out of the element books you default to Levin+Dark Tome.
[quote=bluebomber24]I just noticed that Robin has two swords. I think one is that weak arse Iron Sword, while the other is clearly the Levin.
Edit: When I look at it, it seems that maybe Robin has a Pikmin like system where he goes through the various tomes. But I think he can run out (perma or temp), and then he switches from the Iron Sword to the Levin. Theoretically outside of maybe power the Levin Set would not even change gameplay when compared to the Tome Set.
What do you guys think of that theory?[/quote]
I think his Smashes might be the Levin and his Specials the tomes.
I just noticed that Robin has two swords. I think one is that weak arse Iron Sword, while the other is clearly the Levin.
Edit: When I look at it, it seems that maybe Robin has a Pikmin like system where he goes through the various tomes. But I think he can run out (perma or temp), and then he switches from the Iron Sword to the Levin. Theoretically outside of maybe power the Levin Set would not even change gameplay when compared to the Tome Set.
What do you guys think of that theory?
I was only hype for falcon cause I never played fire emblem so I don't really know about the other characters. Though I do main Marth in melee..
[quote=Thiefy996]Damn, Robin and Lucina are a great addition (and a huge relief after the disappointment that was Pacman). Loved FE: Awakening.
Though the amount of Fire Emblem characters does trouble me somewhat. Never was a huge fan of Marth or Ike (Roy I kinda liked), and perhaps they could've represented some other Nintendo franchises more.[/quote]
Wait.. How the hell was Pac-Man a disappointment? o.o
@bluebomber24: Well last year they had a Nintendo direct every few months, so the next one should be August if they follow that pattern again this year. Everyone's been speculating that the next reveal would be during the next direct (which is about Nintendo in general not just smash), but this one was unexpected so I can't tell if they're done with reveals or not since people were already saying ness/lucas, snake, are possibly being cut.
@ox0Shad0w0xo: what do you mean August? Are they revealing monthly? The safest bet would be a Nintendo char that ppl want. Don't know if ppl been asking for one of the F-Zero villains. But that could work especially if Ganandorf doesn't return. Although I wonder if they have a Snake replacement.
[quote=bluebomber24]@ox0Shad0w0xo: Any game that has 1-2 chars and gains 1-2 more will seem excessive to the other 1-2 chars. Also, games like Sonic and Rayman isn't owned by Nintendo so contract agreements can be hard. Megaman FINALLY coming is a prime example.[/quote]
True enough. Now I'm curious what will happen (if anything) in August. People were so sure it would be chrom next, but now the predictions were wrong after pacman and palutena being right.
@ox0Shad0w0xo: Any game that has 1-2 chars and gains 1-2 more will seem excessive to the other 1-2 chars. Also, games like Sonic and Rayman isn't owned by Nintendo so contract agreements can be hard. Megaman FINALLY coming is a prime example.
@bluebomber24: Excessive compared to games that aren't represented yet, or games like sonic (he's the sole rep of his game lol). But catching up is one way of looking at it too. Just wasn't expecting FE to go from 2 reps, 2 games in a row to this. Really came out of nowhere, even though people were pulling for Chrom pretty hard because of Gematsu.
[quote=ox0Shad0w0xo]Wasn't expecting [i]two[/i] more fire emblem reps. Now that puts FE at 4, which seems a bit excessive, especially with Lucina doing the exact same moves as Marth in the Trailer. A few people say her moves looked slower than Marths, like Roy's were, so she might be a Roy replacement. We'll just have to wait and see. Hopefully we still get one more reveal trailer in the Nintendo Direct Next month.[/quote]
@theamens
Excessive compared to what? Pokemon? Mario? Kirby? Zelda? To me this is catching up.
oh hey I was half right; it is a clone.
but that's cool i can be the default avatar to FE
captain falcon
the people's knee returns
now i'm waiting for ganondorf
Wasn't expecting [i]two[/i] more fire emblem reps. Now that puts FE at 4, which seems a bit excessive, especially with Lucina doing the exact same moves as Marth in the Trailer. A few people say her moves looked slower than Marths, like Roy's were, so she might be a Roy replacement. We'll just have to wait and see. Hopefully we still get one more reveal trailer in the Nintendo Direct Next month.
Four Fire Emblem characters seem excessive.
I mean, they could've added so much more variety. Nintendo said they're on their last character reveals.
Rayman would've been a great addition, but nope just a trophy.
Golden Sun character/s would've been great.
Overall, it's not as great as I thought it would be.
I loved Fire Emblem Awakening, I'm glad they got in. Also Captain Falcon is awesome like always.
[quote=qwertyfoxster]http://www.smashbros.com/us/
Isn't it a little strange every other newcomer has a big box and her's is little? I'm not saying "NO YOURE WRONG" but I'm hoping you are.[/quote]
she is a character, not an alt. charizard is new as an individual character, but was considered an update. either way, i thought it was a great the way captain falcon's return announcement was handled. so far, i like all of the characters that are being brought into smash bros.
Freaking Robin. God damn. Got my new smash character!
[quote=Vinje]Nope.
http://www.smashbros.com/us/characters/lucina.html[/quote]
http://www.smashbros.com/us/
Isn't it a little strange every other newcomer has a big box and her's is little? I'm not saying "NO YOURE WRONG" but I'm hoping you are.
[quote=qwertyfoxster]I'm with this guy. Hopefully Lucina is a Marth alt. No room for clones in this limited roster.[/quote]
Nope.
http://www.smashbros.com/us/characters/lucina.html
[quote=Ecyz]I know, I played Awakening I meant gameplay.
She could really be an Alt costume. Hopefully.
I stand by Chrom being part of Robin's FS. It's just way way way too obvious from the video. Robin even says "Chrom, on my mark" and they attack Falcon in tandem.[/quote]
I'm with this guy. Hopefully Lucina is a Marth alt. No room for clones in this limited roster.
r/smashbros is on fire right now
FALCON HYPE
HYES
How many open slots do we have left now?
[quote=imtwocats]@ImaClubYou: Robin and Captain Falcon are also labeled with update. It just means the character roster has been updated with them.[/quote]
Indeed.
Other arguments. From the short video, she has the same exact moveset as Marth even when Sakurai claimed to never cloning characters. She has the same exact idle animation as Marth, being she puts her hand over her chest/heart. All newcomers aside from Mii Fighters have their own official art banner, Lucina does not.
[quote=imtwocats]Ecyz: Lucina and Chrom are descendents of Marth.[/quote]
I know, I played Awakening I meant gameplay.
She could really be an Alt costume. Hopefully.
I stand by Chrom being part of Robin's FS. It's just way way way too obvious from the video. Robin even says "Chrom, on my mark" and they attack Falcon in tandem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3BzHoZJD4g
interesting, shulk from xeno would be cool
@ImaClubYou: Robin and Captain Falcon are also labeled with update. It just means the character roster has been updated with them.
@Ecyz: Lucina and Chrom are descendents of Marth.
[quote=Ecyz]Chrom is a FS 100%, watch it again.[/quote]
Being in a FS doesn't limit Chrom. It's a 3 minute video. Think again.
[quote=Ecyz]Lucina has her own slot on the website, and it says Newcomer[/quote]
Notice how Lucina is pointed out as an "update" and not a "newcomer" on the website like many newcomers so far have been.
[quote=Ecyz]I'm a Xenoblade fan but any character reveal is nice. My brother loves FE and he's disappointed.[/quote]
I honestly wanted to see how Shulk played. I'm not a FE fan nor have I played any games, but these are cool.
I was excited for Lucina until I saw her in action... every move they showed was one of Marth's What happened to "no more clones" Sakurai? </3. At least Robin looks interesting and yay CF is back
*EDIT*
After looking again I'm pretty sure she's just a Marth alt costume... look carefully at the site and she doesn't have a newcomer box like every other new character does, her's is small... I hope/predict she's a Marth alt while Chrom will be a secret character and it's his final smash they showed in the vid, trying to make it look like hers.
**EDIT TO MY EDIT (lol)
Third look gives me the impression that Chrom is just part of Robin's final smash, not Lucina's, not a stand alone character.
[quote=ImaClubYou]Nah, Lucina is an alternate costume of Marth, and Chrom is yet to be officially recognized.
Really, the best part of this was Captain Falcon, lol. They really know how to make him.
I'm also wondering what the Xenoblade fans are thinking.[/quote]
Lucina is an individual character, confirmed on the website. Chrom is just a final smash I think. http://www.smashbros.com/us/characters/lucina.html
I really hope they still have plenty of character reveals left. Lots of characters I'm still hoping to see.
[quote=ImaClubYou]Nah, Lucina is an alternate costume of Marth, and Chrom is yet to be officially recognized.
Really, the best part of this was Captain Falcon, lol. They really know how to make him.
I'm also wondering what the Xenoblade fans are thinking.[/quote]
Chrom is a FS 100%, watch it again.
Lucina has her own slot on the website, and it says Newcomer
I'm a Xenoblade fan but any character reveal is nice. My brother loves FE and he's disappointed.
[quote=Ecyz]Yup, I rewatched it and Chrom is definitely Robin's FS.
And Lucina looks literally the same as Marth, what are you doing Sakurai don't take the games so literally[/quote]
Nah, Lucina is an alternate costume of Marth, and Chrom is yet to be officially recognized.
Really, the best part of this was Captain Falcon, lol. They really know how to make him.
I'm also wondering what the Xenoblade fans are thinking.
Yup, I rewatched it and Chrom is definitely Robin's FS.
And Lucina looks literally the same as Marth, what are you doing Sakurai don't take the games so literally
[quote=Ecyz]I think Chrom is either part of a Final Smash or is an Alt costume for Lucina.[/quote]
Agreed. Also, I think Lucina's set is filler for later. They didn't have time to get it in the game for the trailer, I suppose.
I think Chrom is either part of a Final Smash or is an Alt costume for Lucina.