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I just drop a stack of potions and leave them be.

@Draception: I'd rather help out the .1% then no one at all. Even if that's a ridiculous statistic lol

Huh, when I restarted in a new world with no character cards or the luxuries of having settled down, it was still easy. The game is just outright noob friendly now, I don't know how people actually burn potions that fast without doing anything short of just standing on the monsters.

I give pots not meso.

@zomgitbeandy:

The world needs more yous.

Too bad it has more of mes :]

I've only given 1 beggar 5mil before, although he/she wasn't exactly begging. They were asking for prices on items they were trying to sell and seemed helpless so I thought "I'll give this person 5m and see if they end up quitting in a week". I was curious because I just got the feeling I'd be right, haven't seen the person on again after they added me.

Were you maybe about to give something since your inventory was open during the screenshot?

@Drextal: I see your point, but that's just a theory I come up with using observations I've made over the years. I'm not saying you're wrong it's your money, you have your say in it. But it's sometimes for them it's a battle between quantity vs. quality it's not that they think being lazy will guarantee money it's just they think it'll get the point across faster because they've lost a bit of hope in asking. Regardless I just think it's exhausting to find reasons [b]not[/b] to help people than just simply seeing the best in everyone's effort.

In the end I don't think those players would quit because they're short in mesos they'll inevitably find I just want to make their journey a little shorter.

@zomgitbeandy:

That's a horrible excuse though. If you're in a situation where you want help you can't expect your odds of getting help to improve by being lazier with it.

Your take on their thought process:
"Hmm. Asking politely in complete sentences didn't work. -Lightbulb turns on in their head- What if I just made it 2 words?"

Here's how it works:

Some people will give you the money anyways (like yourself).
Some people will only give you the money if you put effort into your request (like me).
Some people will straight up reject you no matter what you do (most people fall into this one).

If you trade people and ask, the odds are likely that you'll get rejected no matter how you tried to go about it. Then eventually you start getting lazy with it, and if you keep it up, you'll eventually trade someone in the first category. Then the first category person will reinforce this person's behavior by actually giving them help.

But I'm going to stick with my take on it. If you're going to ask for help like that I don't see any reason to actually help.

It's even worse when I stick around to see what else they have to say and all they do is spam "plz" / "pls" / "please" in 3 lines until the game says spamming negatively affects people's experience.

I just give pots and jr. boogie familiars.

One time:
Person: Can I have mesos for pots?
Me: How about I just give you pots? *puts 300 elixirs*
Person: No thanks.

Edit: Wait a sec, how can they afford a bathrobe, but not pots? o.o

@Drextal: I've seen most of those cases in my years of Maple, ranging from seemingly lazy mesos please to creative anecdotes for mesos. What I learned as I grew up with the game is that when you're begging for mesos in the formal polite way people still reject. The theory I made from that is the theory of marginal utility, they eventually ask politely so often they gradually lose effort and faith into people saying yes they eventually try to save up effort by shortening it to "mesos please/pls." I understand that it comes off as rude and lazy since as the person giving the charity you would at least expect respect from the person but I just grew out of that shell and give them money regardless. Most of the time they'll say thank you, if not then at least I can still know I helped someone regardless.

TLDR; they get turned down too often to continue typing long sentences so it later became a phrase, that's how I see it.

step up your game and be 6 steps ahead by asking beggars for mesos before they can ask you

[quote=zomgitbeandy]My point exactly, a lot of people creating new characters under the same account tend to forget the 1k hp or 50 wattk passives they might or might not be getting that makes them 1 hit all monsters and tank negligible amounts of damage but for the weaker and newer players they're scavenging potions that they can find on the ground and the few 100 mp potions given by quest chains, which i might add I burn through in about one training session. Even with my boosted characters I invest a minimum of 1m to my link skill mules to ensure they can afford potions. I think newer players should be given that same charity lol.[/quote]

imo, they're new to maple yes. They are however not new to asking another person for help.

This is a random person , they've taken the time to accept your trade request. All you have to offer them is "meso plox?" What? The reason why it's so easy for most of us to turn these guys down is because the way they ask shows they've put 0 effort into this whole begging thing so why should they deserve your help?

hells no : meso plz, meso pl0x, give meso

maybe : can i hav meso? can i hav money?

probably : hey can you help me out with some money?

likely : i will murder your entire family unless you give me currency for an online game

[quote=Telatsu]I think this is a really good point. I recall at one point right after beta, I was power leveling, which at the time consisted of burning through a lot of pots and quite frankly I wasn't thinking. By the time I got to 40, I had no mesos, no pots and as a sin grinding in the Ant Tunnels was pretty much a death sentence. Sometimes the community forgets that we need a little boost in the beginning, because sometimes we make mistakes. I don't play regularly now, but usually when stuff like this happens I go with the benefit of the doubt. Sure, I lose what, 300k max? Some potions I don't use? But the potential to help someone have the fun experience in Maplestory I enjoyed early on is always worth it to me. Enabling? Hardly, I'm just being decent.[/quote]

This is true, but 99.9% of the "new players"
aren't new at all.

When I started new in Renegades for a week (Sorry revive), I had nothing to start with. Never asked the guild for any mesos or potions and just played like a newbie. Needless to say, if you loot everything from the early levels, you are guaranteed to have mesos for potions. Selling junk equips is what yields the most mesos, especially if they are thief daggers (unexpectedly high resale).
But then again, the job you play as also contributes meso usage. A bucc may not need mp pots after 2nd job (passive 5% regen) but a corsair will.

bro you're stacked, give the fine lady some meso

Meh, I just drop around 500k if I feel they are poor / just started to play. Usually judge by their name and their items.

[quote=NightCodex]I feel like recently this has been happening a lot (in Bera). Used to NEVER get any trades, for like... 3 years? Now, in the past WEEK, I have gotten 3 ppl trading me for messo. wtf. Never gave them anything since it's obvious they have a main account. I mean, it's really suspicious if you trade the people wearing NX and high level gear, when you are new you don't KNOW what High Level gear or NX looks like...[/quote]

Your mentality is flawed. If they are a new player they are probably trading everyone they see .Just because you happen to be wearing NX or high level gear doesn't mean you were singled out. I can't think of a more elitist, egotistical view on life

[quote=Telatsu]I think this is a really good point. I recall at one point right after beta, I was power leveling, which at the time consisted of burning through a lot of pots and quite frankly I wasn't thinking. By the time I got to 40, I had no mesos, no pots and as a sin grinding in the Ant Tunnels was pretty much a death sentence. Sometimes the community forgets that we need a little boost in the beginning, because sometimes we make mistakes. I don't play regularly now, but usually when stuff like this happens I go with the benefit of the doubt. Sure, I lose what, 300k max? Some potions I don't use? But the potential to help someone have the fun experience in Maplestory I enjoyed early on is always worth it to me. Enabling? Hardly, I'm just being decent.[/quote]

My point exactly, a lot of people creating new characters under the same account tend to forget the 1k hp or 50 wattk passives they might or might not be getting that makes them 1 hit all monsters and tank negligible amounts of damage but for the weaker and newer players they're scavenging potions that they can find on the ground and the few 100 mp potions given by quest chains, which i might add I burn through in about one training session. Even with my boosted characters I invest a minimum of 1m to my link skill mules to ensure they can afford potions. I think newer players should be given that same charity lol.

Some times I'll give away those pots you get from leveling alchemy, since they NPC for nothing and nobody wants to buy them from me, and I rarely ever find the opportunity to use them myself. But yeah, most of the time they'll just cancel trade as soon as it becomes obvious that they won't get any mesos from me.

Edit: In OP's case though I would have given some meso just because they were being so polite about it.

I'm poor and give so many mesos away. But I guess that's not a good way to get rich. 0 mesos, but a lot of good karma. >:}

[quote=zomgitbeandy]The last time this happened to me was years ago back when potions were actually crucial for early level training. Now everyone got character cards and link skills that makes a significant difference in regular training. I think a lot of people forget that completely fresh players are vulnerable to burning through potions and mesos. What's 1m going to do to my pocket vs. make someone's maple experience better? LOL. Don't be pretentious guys.[/quote]

I think this is a really good point. I recall at one point right after beta, I was power leveling, which at the time consisted of burning through a lot of pots and quite frankly I wasn't thinking. By the time I got to 40, I had no mesos, no pots and as a sin grinding in the Ant Tunnels was pretty much a death sentence. Sometimes the community forgets that we need a little boost in the beginning, because sometimes we make mistakes. I don't play regularly now, but usually when stuff like this happens I go with the benefit of the doubt. Sure, I lose what, 300k max? Some potions I don't use? But the potential to help someone have the fun experience in Maplestory I enjoyed early on is always worth it to me. Enabling? Hardly, I'm just being decent.

Maplers are friends not food <3

The last time this happened to me was years ago back when potions were actually crucial for early level training. Now everyone got character cards and link skills that makes a significant difference in regular training. I think a lot of people forget that completely fresh players are vulnerable to burning through potions and mesos. What's 1m going to do to my pocket vs. make someone's maple experience better? LOL. Don't be pretentious guys.

mesarz plox

I rarely give people mesos on maple. To me they're just being lazy. It's not like real life where they're homeless and don't have a job to make any money. All they have to do is go smack a few monsters and it will either drop money, potions, etc items, equips, or all 4. People always say "It's just being nice" but that's just being an enabler. Why should they play the game when they can make millions just by begging every person they see?

I feel like recently this has been happening a lot (in Bera). Used to NEVER get any trades, for like... 3 years? Now, in the past WEEK, I have gotten 3 ppl trading me for messo. wtf. Never gave them anything since it's obvious they have a main account. I mean, it's really suspicious if you trade the people wearing NX and high level gear, when you are new you don't KNOW what High Level gear or NX looks like...

i love when they say they started a week ago.. i always come back with "I just started next week!" they usually cancel the trade then.

give them mesos yo, if theyre annoying dont give em anything

Usually if I get a trade request I look at the character and if I see it as a mule or someone whos just gonna bother someone else after I gave him 5mil i'll usually type really quickly
"I don't have any mesos, im sorry." Then the trade will get cancelled by em unless they wanted something else like gameplay help
If they look new to maple ill give em mesos tho

I need money for pot pls

just give her a mil and they'll be fine

"pots" they say.