Delete Characters That Are Under Level 50 And Inactive
There should be something like this done. If you haven't logged into a character in over half a year and it is under level 50 it should be deleted and it's items/mesos should be auto saved so you can retrieve them later.
The amount of time can and should be tweaked but this is just the raw idea of it.
If we put out heads together we could think of something like this that is fair for everyone.
I find it hard to make a new character with a decent name. My friend started making his character names in French because most English ones are taken.
Edit: Page 2. Ecyz has a really good idea and it should let everyone be happy.
Edit: Update: Tyler's response.
"While it would be nice to be able to have older names, the players who originally had them do have a right to own such names. It would be the same as owning a house. If you decided to live in another country and came back a year later to find someone living in it, you would be upset.
Special characters (anything not letters or numbers) are also out of the question as they have the potential of purposefully causing harm or damage to the game or the game's servers (using common database commands or attempting to break queries). This is the same reason why most MMORPGs only allow alphanumerical.
If anything, I feel it would be better to put inactive characters (over a year) in a "frozen" state, and have their names given fake names (appears to be '?' to the user, but is actually a lot of jumbled letters internally). When a player attempts to login to the character, they will see their character floating in a darkened room and will be asked to rename their character to something new. Once they've found a name that works, their character is thus renamed and can return to normal playing."
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This is Maplestory, not a contest to see who can have the best name.
If you want to play it that way, you're going to have to make up words- that's the only option.
I think if anything it should be level 30 and below that should be marked inactive and have their names be released. When they come back they should have a name change coupon and be ablero change their name to something else.
also delete lv200's that are inactive for 5 years+.
The thread in the official forums is at 7 pages now and this one has stretched into 12. I guess this was a good topic
That, or people are just arguing.
@BobR: Well, go claim your logic up with Nexon because I'm just another player buddy <3
Im sure you guys at Basil have some sort of influence.
[quote=Genostigma]@BobR: But if even hackers that are banned are able to come up with legit names, what does that tell you about people that have no creativity what so ever in making a decent IGN? True that there are many decent ones taken, (perhaps forever) but that shouldn't stop you from putting in effort in creating decent one(s). I actually get a kick out of it in creating nice and decent IGN's; because it challenges the mind and let's you be creative.
Let's say Nexon decided to appease all you kids and release all these taken IGN's, what if in that same release date your IGN (the one you were so longing for) was once again taken but this time by an active member....now what? We're back to square one and back to the drawing boards.
The moral of this story is: take the time to be creative, don't give up!, don't be selfish and just enjoy the game whether you have a good IGN or not.[/quote]
Lol... "you kids"...
I don't much care about the "be creative" argument since Maplestory isn't supposed to be a "word game", I'm just more concerned about the illogic of banning people for names, but not making all the possible legit names available to be used.
So a name someone is looking for gets reused before they can get it..? So what..? It's no different from the original situation, only one instance of any one grouping of alphanumeric characters (up to 12) can exist in the game at one time. So that person has to find another name. That's the way it's always been, and it's the way it is in games with reasonable limits on unused and inactive accounts. The difference is legit names aren't locked up forever, for NO GOOD REASON.
The moral of that story is: be logical about why names should be removed from use forever.
Incidentally, I never have problems finding a character name since I use a theme to name my characters. But this isn't about creativity anyway. It's about logic.
Then all our mules would be deleted if we quit for a long period of time. o.o
[quote=Heatless]Oh so it's about names, I don't think usernames are worth deleting players that may return.[/quote]
The money Nexon used on ads for bonuses for returning players would go down the drain.
[quote=pokeystick1]"So you showed up late to the marathon, and expect to be first?"
-Random basiler[/quote]
Pretty much what this guy said ^^^ That and multiply it by X1000
"So you showed up late to the marathon, and expect to be first?"
-Random basiler
@BobR: But if even hackers that are banned are able to come up with legit names, what does that tell you about people that have no creativity what so ever in making a decent IGN? True that there are many decent ones taken, (perhaps forever) but that shouldn't stop you from putting in effort in creating decent one(s). I actually get a kick out of it in creating nice and decent IGN's; because it challenges the mind and let's you be creative.
Let's say Nexon decided to appease all you kids and release all these taken IGN's, what if in that same release date your IGN (the one you were so longing for) was once again taken but this time by an active member....now what? We're back to square one and back to the drawing boards.
The moral of this story is: take the time to be creative, don't give up!, don't be selfish and just enjoy the game whether you have a good IGN or not.
[quote=Genostigma]@BobR: Your point is valid. But in reality, I don't see Nexon doing something about it anytime soon. As long as the account holder can simply log into the website and not the actual game, then it's a win win! Some people uninstall Maple; and to simply re-install it just to do a name check-in would be pretty much redundant.
Like I said before...let's keep it nice and simple! <3 gg![/quote]
That's how I'd like to see it done. Just a site login to keep the account active so you don't have to download and install the whole game just for one login.
That would take care of any arguments of having lost Internet access or broken computers since almost anyone should have access to a school or library computer just to get to the Maple site. It would also keep any mule accounts active too, assuming anyone would care that much about mules for a game they're not actually playing any more.
But yes... Nexon has never made any indication they'd ever adopt a policy like this, and apparently have never deleted any accounts before this.
Even permanently banned hacker accounts are still in their system, tying up any legit names that are trapped in them.
Given the backlash they're seeing about banning people for names that violate their Terms of Use recently, they might find it to their advantage to make legal names that aren't being used (and probably will never be used again) available to active, potentially paying, customers.
[quote=Vannaful]lolthis.
Every time an ign thread like this comes up I can't help but think, "Get the hell over it, so what if you can't get the ign you want."
Are igns that important that you must take it from another player that chooses not to play anymore?
The only thing closely related to this topic that I can understand is:
You had an old account that had a pretty little ign, but then years later you could no longer access the account so you lost the ign. Now, you want a way to try and retrieve it.
Aside from that, come up with your own damn igns or buy something you like. I would love to snag some awesome igns, but I'm not gonna die over it if I can't get any.[/quote]
What about players that are perma banned and can't even access their accout? I suppose we shouldn't get those names because "first come first servered" We don't even own our names. We don't even our characters according to the ToS.
I don't think players that actually play should be subjected to this but players that have given up completly and do want to play at all shouldn't play.
And after reading this thread I deleted ALL of my name mules. That was probably 50-60 characters I'd never even use. I'm sure some people have much more than me.
@BobR: Your point is valid. But in reality, I don't see Nexon doing something about it anytime soon. As long as the account holder can simply log into the website and not the actual game, then it's a win win! Some people uninstall Maple; and to simply re-install it just to do a name check-in would be pretty much redundant.
Like I said before...let's keep it nice and simple! <3 gg!
[quote=Akkine]If they did this, I would never come back. The only reason why I keep coming back to this game is because nothing on my account changes.
And what happens to your buddies? They may still have Poopface123 on their bl and then when they see Poopface123 again, they'll be like "hey!" but then it isn't you. But then what if the new Poopface123 pretends to be you and your friend trusts you 100% so he trusts this random guy 100% and then new Poopface123 scams your friend. Then we've got a case of identity theft.[/quote]
My mind is EXPLODING at the fact that this post was made let alone got [i]two[/i] likes. Two people agreed with this. I-
5 years under level 70 with a 4 month email warning. Upon return they are forced to choose a new name. Seems fair to me.
[quote=hirrho][url=http://maplestory.nexon.net/community/#%2Fshowthread.php%3F964300-Inactive-Characters-That-Are-Below-Level-30-Should-be-Deleted%2Fpage2%26nxid%3D6]The thread I stole[/url]
Seems like a lot of people are interested in this.[/quote]
I don't mind you stealing it.
[url=http://maplestory.nexon.net/community/#%2Fshowthread.php%3F964300-Inactive-Characters-That-Are-Below-Level-30-Should-be-Deleted%2Fpage2%26nxid%3D6]The thread I stole[/url]
Seems like a lot of people are interested in this.
I think 3 years of complete inactivity for Lv 10 and under is better.
It's fair so that Ign sellers keep their business.
What's wrong is that these old players who never intend to play ever again and don't plan to sell their Ign.
[quote=xBabiigirl]@YamenNayo:
It would rather be a better idea to give all servers seperate names..
Like in every server there can be a "Choco" ~[/quote]
i love that idea but it'll probably confuse a lot of people unless they pay close attention to what server the person's from
[quote=Genostigma]@BobR: I believe people do have a good concept of what a year is. Furthermore, reminding people every year to log in just to protect what is rightfully theirs would be more like spamming. Unlike like you, not everyone here goes to school and not everyone here is a kid. Kids sometimes get greedy and want,crave, nag and whine to get what they want.[/quote]
Lol... unlike me, the kids who primarily play this game have no conception of time. They think being "away from the game" for 2 months is a "long time" and continually ask in General Maplestory to catch them up on all the "new stuff" that's come out in the game "while they were away". Given that a year is a significant percentage of their total lifespan, it's funny to listen to them complain that "a year isn't long enough" when considering an account inactive.
If you're older than the typical player, then you should be able to understand the ease of investing 5 minutes of time to preserve something of value to you for a period of an entire year. If the character names in an online game are that valuable to you, logging in one time during an entire calendar year to preserve them should be a no-brainer, like paying the car insurance or property taxes. Getting an e-mail reminder would be no different from getting a drivers' license renewal in the mail from the state.
And there's no "spam". Just using an account would keep resetting the "inactive" clock every time you log in.
Go away for an entire year, and you get ONE e-mail. Boo hoo. Such a flood of spam.
"Rightfully theirs"...?
What exactly is "rightfully theirs"..?
What part of the Nexon Terms of Use gives anyone a "right" to lock up a group of alphanumeric characters in perpetuity..?
I hear a lot of "me! mine! gimmie! you can't have it!", and not just from the kids.
[quote=hirrho]I hope you don't mind but I stole your thread an posted it to te main forums. It's a rather good dea but can use some editing.[/quote]
Cool, I'll make sure i will vote against this
I hope you don't mind but I stole your thread an posted it to te main forums. It's a rather good dea but can use some editing.
@YamenNayo: Don't get me wrong, I know where you're coming from. I have some igns I wouldn't mind having and they're either not on the rankings or really low level. My biggest issue with the idea though, is that if someone stops playing for a few years (game gets boring, I've quit for an entire 2 years before) and they don't check the email on their nexon account very often, then they could potentially lose their names without even knowing it was going to happen. I feel it works best if it's a feature that's part of the game from day 1, so everyone knows what happens if they become inactive. I'm all for banned ign's being freed up. It's very rare that Nexon unbans the perma banned people so I don't see why not.
@YamenNayo:
It would rather be a better idea to give all servers seperate names..
Like in every server there can be a "Choco" ~
OP is moot
[quote=ox0Shad0w0xo]@Tarantula: Implying that [i]I[/i] don't like my own igns. You're missing the entire point though. The point was, there's still plenty of possibilities for igns. At the time of creating my Xenon I decided I wanted CriticalFlux and I don't mind having trick letters.
Edit: @CinderTea @YamenNayo You guys are taking my words too literal now. Of course CarHurricane and MilkTomatoes sound bad. But you're just grasping at straws now, picking words that obviously sound horrible together. One way to do it would be to pick one word you like and work it into something. For example you decide you want Flame somewhere in your ign and just pick extra words (plenty sound okay with flame, just use your imagination). DarkFlame, HolyFlame, FlameBurst, ColdFlame, FlameDragon, ShiningFlame, DancingFlame, FlameDynasty, FlameOfPower, FantasyFlame, EternalFlame, EndlessFlame, CrazyFlame, I could keep going, and that's just off the top of my head. You may not like how all of those sound, but if you get creative there's a world of possibilities.[/quote]
You're right. I was being a too literal. I get like that when I want to win something. I took out of hands and I apologize. There are certainly quite a few names out there. I still feel like there should be something done about accounts that are locked up though. Accounts that can't even be accessed at all.
I agree with the you to a degree. I really like Ecyz idea. I wouldn't mind it so much if there was a way to get my name back if I was only like level 30 or something.
@Tarantula: Implying that [i]I[/i] don't like my own igns. You're missing the entire point though. The point was, there's still plenty of possibilities for igns. At the time of creating my Xenon I decided I wanted CriticalFlux and I don't mind having trick letters.
Edit: @CinderTea @YamenNayo You guys are taking my words too literal now. Of course CarHurricane and MilkTomatoes sound bad. But you're just grasping at straws now, picking words that obviously sound horrible together. One way to do it would be to pick one word you like and work it into something. For example you decide you want Flame somewhere in your ign and just pick extra words (plenty sound okay with flame, just use your imagination). DarkFlame, HolyFlame, FlameBurst, ColdFlame, FlameDragon, ShiningFlame, DancingFlame, FlameDynasty, FlameOfPower, FantasyFlame, EternalFlame, EndlessFlame, CrazyFlame, I could keep going, and that's just off the top of my head. You may not like how all of those sound, but if you get creative there's a world of possibilities.
[quote=CinderTea]Anyone can take two random words and stick them together. That doesn't mean they make sense when creating the character or even look nice together.
MilkTomatoes is available and I can see why. It sounds absolutely retarded to anyone who isn't doing a Milk motif with their names.[/quote]
This*
Just because there are still a ton of names avilable doesn't make them good. I don't want to stare at a screen and scratch my head for an hour to end up with CarHurricane or ShampoIsReal. No wants SoapIsALie either. Just because they're there doesn't mean they're good.
I agree that some accounts should be wiped after x amount of time... But more like 2 years or 3 years with prior warning.
But if your sole basis of deletion is because you can't come up with an IGN... You lack creativity.
@Tumble: That's definitely a possibility. I wouldn't rule anything out. I think if it were to be official they'd probably lower the level to 30 and have a lot of warnings before implementing this. Some people play in Scania but have mules in every world with a ton of names. It's those people I'm concerned about.
People who don't even remember that they had a name saved.
@BobR: Very true.
@BobR: I believe people do have a good concept of what a year is. Furthermore, reminding people every year to log in just to protect what is rightfully theirs would be more like spamming. Unlike like you, not everyone here goes to school and not everyone here is a kid. Kids sometimes get greedy and want,crave, nag and whine to get what they want.
[quote=PenguinMoral]@BobR: Yeah, I already said I liked that option a lot better :o[/quote]
The problem is, whenever this subject comes up again, whoever is posting it this time usually gets it wrong in the OP and uses the words "account" and "deleted".
So even if the more reasonable method of handling abandoned/inactive names is brought up in the thread later on, all anyone sees is "Your account will be deleted" and they freak out about it.
@BobR: Yeah, I already said I liked that option a lot better :o
[quote=PenguinMoral]@BobR Well, although it does sound selfish, even if I intended to completely quit and move on. I feel like I'd have wasted a good long years if I just simply delete a character I spent a good amount of time on. If the IGN just changes, sure.... but if it's deleted as a WHOLE, dam ;~;
dese peoples don't go to page2 :C[/quote]
The best set of suggestions involve a plan like League of Legends uses. If you don't even log in for a year, they'll tell you, then if you still don't log in they'll change the name to a "placeholder" so the characters, items, exp and everything are saved, but the name is freed up for other, active people to use.
Then if you ever do decide to come back you can still play the game on those characters, but you need to choose a new name.
Nothing deleted, nothing changed except the name.
@BobR Well, although it does sound selfish, even if I intended to completely quit and move on. I feel like I'd have wasted a good long years if I just simply delete a character I spent a good amount of time on. If the IGN just changes, sure.... but if it's deleted as a WHOLE, dam ;~;
dese peoples don't go to page2 :C
Yeah but the the thing is what if you don't get to level 50 and you lose interest but then come back. Your character is gone and you have to start all over. You can't just think about the active players with this.
[quote=Eastwardly]Look up obscure things in a word generator. Most have not been taken.
INB4: Eastwardly we love you I'll buy your name 555000093982758Bil! ;D[/quote]
I never get that reaction to my beautiful IGNs ;_;
[quote=icemage11]Disagree. Work harder to think of decent IGNs instead of thinking YOU are entitled to nice ones just because someone else doesn't play anymore.[/quote]
What makes you think someone who doesn't even play the game any more, who has gone on with their life and completely abandoned the game is entitled to lock up a name that could be used by actual, active players..?
@Genostigma People don't seem to have a very good concept of how long a YEAR is.
Think about it- you go to school for months, have a week or two off for Christmas, go to school for more months, have months off for Summer vacation, and can't be bothered taking 10 MINUTES to log into the Maple site to protect those precious IGNs..?
Doesn't sound like the game or those names are all that important to anyone like that.
@Ecyz It's because nobody actually reads any of this, they just tack on their own comment against the original proposal.
The idea you expressed is the only real solution to the name problem. Nexon probably knows it already, they just keep hoping somebody who abandoned the game 7 years ago might come back and spend 10 cents on the game, and they don't want to miss that dime.
@PenguinMoral What sounds selfish is people who completely leave a game, never coming back and thinking they can lock up a name forever, just because they wanna.
@Akkine Then it's lucky for your friend that's not how the buddy system works.
@DegenerationX oh? then log on it, not inactive. saved. simple fix.
I agree with the second page guy. I enjoy using themes in my IGNs and it's pretty irritating to see Lv50- people having said IGN I want, such as
PenguinsRAWR - Still a stripped Lv37 Warrior
PenguinsMoo - Too low leveled or perma banned
Both the same status since the last time I checked like what, 4-5 years ago?
It does sound selfish, yes. But if you use a theme in your IGN, you're gonna eventually run out of words to accompany your theme, and then you're gonna have to switch themes U.U
Before you even touch on inactive accounts, there are permanently banned accounts that can have the contents(characters) within released. Set a 2 year probation period before the account is completely locked. User ID made un-useable but characters deleted.
And then people that knew that person before you got their IGN think it's them
[quote=icemage11]Disagree. Work harder to think of decent IGNs instead of thinking YOU are entitled to nice ones just because someone else doesn't play anymore.[/quote]
This chick is 100% right! We all worked hard in creating our exclusive and unique IGN's. To only be taken away by scrubs that are not creative in making good IGN's? TS, take a hike!
You gotta think more and try to make one that sounds unique or think of really decent two-word IGNs.
Those people were there first and got the names first. You just want them deleted so you can have a "cool" ign. Even if they don't play anymore, who cares? You should think of your own names instead of complaining that others took the good ones years ago. Nexon won't delete characters just because current players are greedy for some stupid ign. IMHO, this thread sounds really selfish.
[quote=BobR]Another thing people are completely overlooking is that if they care so terribly much about the names on their abandoned characters or "name mules" or 10,000 account mules, then they would care enough to come back and log into the Maple site ONE TIME in an ENTIRE YEAR, doncha think..?
That would be another part of any system like this. You don't have to actually download and play the game to keep the account active and the names safe, all you'd have to do is show interest in it by logging into the site ONE TIME during the year.
You show that minimal amount of interest, your precious IGNs are safe.
If you DON'T care about them, can't be bothered to protect them by moving your lazy fingers and logging in just ONCE in a YEAR, then you don't care very much about the game or the names.
Not to mention, you'd get an e-mail warning you the account has been inactive for almost a year, and if you want to keep it active you need to log into the site to let them know you're still interested.
THEN if you don't respond, they can tell you don't care about the game, the characters or the names.
It's really simple.
Nothing to whine about, just log in once in 12 months.[/quote]
Nah, let's make it like every couple years as long as they contact the account owner by text and and he/she can resolve it by replying with another text. <3
Let's keep it nice and simple people.
[quote=Ecyz]I can't help but feel that my idea is being ignored once again I don't see why anyone would disagree to that.[/quote]
My thoughts exactly. It's still the same name and you still have the character!
I can't help but feel that my idea is being ignored once again I don't see why anyone would disagree to that.