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[quote=stanley22]@MrPirate: Well so do every class if you want a good range. But DBs have it a bit easier as they can 6x attack with a clean katara. It's only really expensive if you want your DB to be godly ._.[/quote]

well ,y db has a 20k range buffed and only does 70~80k a line with pb with fc

[quote=ItzATrapp]They can give Cannon Shooters a full map attack, but they should not give one to DBs... I don't like how thieves have full map attacks because it doesn't feel very "thief like". The old ME looked better IMO, even if the new one might be stronger. DBs should get better close range damage, avoid, defense, and improve our old animations as well as get rid of some useless skills and make our mobbing a bit better.[/quote]

Cannoneers are only getting the monkeypush, adding some new skills, taking away some, and improve damage on a few skills like cannon barrage.

@MrPirate: Well so do every class if you want a good range. But DBs have it a bit easier as they can 6x attack with a clean katara. It's only really expensive if you want your DB to be godly ._.

@chunchild239: im saying vamp doesnt count cause it isnt in our skill set. you are talking about a skill that is really only useful for pb. i can survive on auto hp and potion pot but its not like i count it as anything

@Demon671: Uhhhh I can survive off Guild Potions and Vampire so it does count for something.

[quote=chunchild239]We have two really useful stationary mobbing attacks.

I don't really want a third one...[/quote]

vamp does not count for anything.

[quote=AkGold]I got 7k weapon defence and most monsters could kill me in a few hits. I spam power elixers all the damn time[/quote]

You have a crapload of avoid % though. 90% I think? 100% Avoid is unreasonable. You miss EVERYTHING.
EDIT: Didn't notice someone else already replied ;o.

@AkGold: Not really. DB's have 70% Evasion Rate. This differs from Dodge Rate where you always have a flat chance to proc first before your natural Avoid (the Miss/Guard animation) kicks in.

The formula to find the percentage where your natural Avoid would kick in isn't shown in the game, but what I'm saying is not every DB will have the same percentage.

Say your natural Avoid is 55%. Multiply that by 1.7x because of your Evasion Rate skills. Your new total is 93.5%, but because of the new Avoid cap, your total is actually 90%.

Yes, sometimes it doesn't feel like 90%, but look at scrolls. Look at how lucky some people are with passing 10% scrolls, or how unlucky they are with failing a 90% scroll.

[quote=yoguy911]hope DB gets better stationary mobbing[/quote]

We have two really useful stationary mobbing attacks.
http://tinypic.com/r/o08oxd/5
I don't really want a third one...

@TripleBladez I got 90% dodge rate. But it doesn't seem like it. I get hit every 3 hits.

@AkGold: Err, like any other class? Most classes would get 2hko or so. My NL has roughly half of the defense you have at 3.5k with no defense increasing or damage reduction skills at level 200. It only survives off 45% Dodge Rate while DB's have 70% Evasion Rate. I spam my Power Elixirs a lot, too.

@abilas26 @Ackarred
I got 7k weapon defence and most monsters could kill me in a few hits. I spam power elixers all the damn time

[quote=AkGold]All I want is for them to add the 100% rate back[/quote]

And make them virtually indestructible again? No way.

maybe nexon should probably make DB a bit less expensive.. and new animation changes

inb4 more flashy skills that'll cause LAG SPIKE

[quote=AckarRed]The DB/CS reorganization patch has just been released. It's not as much of a revamp as it is a buff.[/quote]

This ^
Mostly just animation changes, and things all thieves should have now (FJ while in Dark Sight, Triple Jump)

@AkGold: That's OP ;o. Having everything miss you takes no skill to play. It has to be a bit challenging.

All I want is for them to add the 100% rate back

The DB/CS reorganization patch has just been released. It's not as much of a revamp as it is a buff.

I'd rather have final cut to give more %dmg instead, and pb to have more dps. I was hoping fc would give 100% dmg more and pb would be x10 instead. Don't really care about mobbing because i prefer bossing

All I want is:

Better MI (We need a mastery book so having it better than others is justified.)
Remove Fatal Blow. Useless or at least make it somewhat useful somehow.
Blade fury updating please.
FC becoming passive would be interesting.
Animation and sound updating would be nice
A Shorter Asura cd would be nice but nothing like a 10 second or 20 second cd. Anywhere from 40~60 would be great.
Sudden raid needs to be replaced or updated. It's cd is ugly and casting speed is worse.
A better 2nd job and 1st job mobbing skill would be great.
I'd like for our hyper passives to be better but I have noticed they have a skill set of 1 3rd job and 1 4th job. So I'd rather have a upgrade venom or something.

If none of these comes to pass i'll be fine as long as they don't screw up what is already there thats good.

[quote=Loneiystarz]I thought the revamp was just making DBs and Cannoneers share CS storage.[/quote]

That was just a small change, this is presumably the actual revamp they mentioned in the red conference; in short RED probably isn't completely over, and we'll probably also see those improved boss rewards and boss PVP

[quote=stanley22]I agree that if Nexon buffs DBs anymore than those, it'll be an overpowered class.[/quote]

dbs still require a bit of fundings to hit high

For dual blades i just want a few new skills but I'm more interested in events. Nexon should have a cash shop set as shown in this picture and give us those new dagger and katara. Oh and to the guy asking for default sasuke hair and sharingan, YES THANK YOU

[quote=zRiolu]Yes, Lets fill the phantoms addiction to stealing skills. Seriously is it like crack for them to steal skills or something?[/quote]

Well, that's meant to be their main gimmick.

[quote=ShiroMugetsu]DBs needed a revamp?[/quote]

they have a pointless and needlessly confusing job advancement system and mastery book so yes

Yes, Lets fill the phantoms addiction to stealing skills. Seriously is it like crack for them to steal skills or something?

Can't wait for this update, I wonder what's in store for DBs. <3

DBs are fine the way they are imo, but some things DEFINITELY can be improved.

-Hypers ~> Please. Why. Y U BUFF SUDDEN RAID AND BLOODY STORM BUT NO BLADE FURY.
-Blade clone ~> I actually didn't really mind, 140% dmg is okay. But now it's just useless with the FA glitch/bug ._.
-Mobbing ~> Enough has been said in this thread.

I agree that if Nexon buffs DBs anymore than those, it'll be an overpowered class.

[quote=Vijol]Oh god dont jinx it please...[/quote]

Bet on them making FC easily spammable. It's one of the parts of their gameplay that's flawed in my opinion.

Cannoneers needing a revamp... lol

I just want a sasuke default hair, and eyes. Thats all

Replace blade fury pls

The only thing DBs need is a decent mobbing skill. Anything else is overkill.

Asura becomes a 4th job skill LOLOLOL

I really wonder what they'd do to DBs.... Replace Blade Clone (Hyper) for something else, please.

inb4 FC because passive LOL

Interesting....Tyrant gloves with Kritias...

[quote=Vijol]Woohoo more classes to get a full map hitting mob move *cough ME*[/quote]

They can give Cannon Shooters a full map attack, but they should not give one to DBs... I don't like how thieves have full map attacks because it doesn't feel very "thief like". The old ME looked better IMO, even if the new one might be stronger. DBs should get better close range damage, avoid, defense, and improve our old animations as well as get rid of some useless skills and make our mobbing a bit better.

replace sudden raid with assaulter (that would be hilarious)

I don't even want much. Just give me my 100% avoid back and give us one DECENT mobbing skill (atm Blade Fury sucks balls)

OMG YESS <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

% Atk Skills pls

I'd be happy with a skill that can make my cannon go faster

hope DB gets better stationary mobbing

I just dont want a nerf....

Yes, Phantoms are very happy.
We need to fill our thirst for stealing skills, what we have now is not enough.