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@ehnogi: I see your point. Very great ones at that. If it was someone like a mother or father or sister I would do what I could to help. I am sure you would too.

[quote=ehnogi]@Chema:

You've obviously never been shot at before.

The first time anyone ever gets shot at, you lose the ability to think critically and react on panic. Even if you are trained to handle a situation like this, you rely on muscle memory, but it's damn near impossible to critically think when you're unarmed and being shot at from several feet away. This woman had no chance.[/quote]

This is true with any traumatic event. All common sense goes out the window.

[quote=DirtMcGirt]I take it back. People in this thread are all f kin retarded. None of you would have done anything. None of you would have gotten away. None of you would have saved her. You would all be shtting your pants or getting killed. F kin retards.[/quote]

You have prove? You're saying things without prove. Not everyone in the world is scared to come up for other people. There are people on Basil who wouldn't be afraid to do something.

So please, first prove it, and then talk before you share your nonsense.

@DragonBandit:

A boot just means "new guy," in the military. My gut told me that you're fresh.
POG means that you're not in the infantry.

Doesn't sound like you've been a 'soldier' for a very long time, so that would make you a boot. Almost sounds like you just finished basic training or something.

Listen; basic training or being a soldier isn't going to help you stop gunmen. As much as you might feel pumped up and what not for being in the Army, you're going to realize that (if you actually do become an infantryman and not some POG, AND if we go back into war time) whatever you get taught is meaningless until you realize how you'd react under fire. Even then, you'll be armed. You'll have a flak and kevlar. You'll have CAS or CFF and ten other people with you who trained for several months and know what to do in that situation.

Here comes my point: If something like this happens near you, and you are actually unarmed, don't be a fool and try to be a super cool hero. You're probably going to die.
And stop being such a boot on the internet. Jeeze.

I'm a soldier crazy. What's a boot? @ehnogi only a pog for 1 -2 more months which is gonna suck IMO.

@DragonBandit:

"Training as a soldier"

Are you a POG?
Or a boot.

[quote=DragonBandit]If I couldn't save one person with my training as a soldier that would be pretty sad.

Edit* just watched the video.... I am going to have to call fake on this one. You can hear people talking but you can't hear the weapon being fired? Bs. Idk much about silencers but I would assume you could see some kind of smoke/hear something still if he used one.[/quote]

I was thinking the same thing at first too, but I think the voices you hear are actually recorded over the tape like a police thing.

[quote=LuckyNinja]For the heck of it, I'm gonna assume its true.

The guy must have a mental illness.
Just to simply kill your girlfriend and mother in law randomly is good evidence to show that this guy has gone crazy.
I feel horrible for the guy and for the girl and mother in law.
I don't how the guy was, but based on the summary, I didn't hear the others do anything so...

All is tragic.

(I didn't click the link. Don't ask me why or insult me. I just don't trust the link. I just based it off the summary. )[/quote]
Yeah it's best if you don't. It really is unnerving though

[quote=DirtMcGirt]I take it back. People in this thread are all f kin retarded. None of you would have done anything. None of you would have gotten away. None of you would have saved her. You would all be shtting your pants or getting killed. F kin retards.[/quote]
If I couldn't save one person with my training as a soldier that would be pretty sad.

Edit* just watched the video.... I am going to have to call fake on this one. You can hear people talking but you can't hear the weapon being fired? Bs. Idk much about silencers but I would assume you could see some kind of smoke/hear something still if he used one.

@Kazno:

As much as it brings fear in people, I think it's necessary for people to at least be aware of things like this.
People need to learn that these things happen. It may affect legislation to pass laws which makes it easier for law-abiding citizens and businesses to openly carry weapons. It may affect legislation to do [b]just the opposite[/b]. People need to become educated about their world, no matter how horrific it may be.

Ugh, seriously don't post this stuff here...sick of hearing how messed up our world is, do you really think we need to be reminded of it?

For the heck of it, I'm gonna assume its true.

The guy must have a mental illness.
Just to simply kill your girlfriend and mother in law randomly is good evidence to show that this guy has gone crazy.
I feel horrible for the guy and for the girl and mother in law.
I don't how the guy was, but based on the summary, I didn't hear the others do anything so...

All is tragic.

(I didn't click the link. Don't ask me why or insult me. I just don't trust the link. I just based it off the summary. )

[quote=DrPebble]Ive been attacked by a bear before... I flashed passed the thing and climbed to the near top of the nearest tree before knowing >.>[/quote]

So you panick and ran towards the closest thing you can for safety.

Some bears can climb trees, and lucky you it didn't wait it out because you basically trapped yourself on a tree with no means of escaping. As well as you sprinting them provokes bears for chase.

Like I said, every situation is different- the only same thing is people can not think straight when they feel like their life is in danger. She was a middle aged women against someone who has the intention of killing her- and had a weapon that can shoot from a range. You had a bear who was provoked and attacking you and you ran to a tree (Some bears can run up to 30 MPH, Usian Bolt TOP speed is 27.7 MPH, and top speed is never consistent.)

All I am saying is, dangerous situation causes people to panic. Every time someone says that they should had done this instead of that, I don't think you are seeing it from her perspective. When your son-in-law has a gun, trying to kill you, who probably out matches you in a physical competition as well. You have the pleasure of thinking what you could do from behind the screen with any amount of time you want, she had a couple of seconds to make a decision and no time to think if it was a good one or not.

I take it back. People in this thread are all f kin retarded. None of you would have done anything. None of you would have gotten away. None of you would have saved her. You would all be shtting your pants or getting killed. F kin retards.

@yoyotwistap65:

It's easy to think that, but you have to understand that those people were also unarmed. When you get shot, blood doesn't splatter around like in the movies. It flows out if you hit the proper artery (bright red) or vein (dark purplish red) or organ.

Based on the color and shape of the gun, it looks like a 9mm to me (might be a glock, might be an XD, who knows; it's small, seems to be made of polymer, and is probably low calibre). 9mm won't leave large enough exit wounds even from that close range. Yes; she did get shot.

Did she really get shot? Because I saw no blood and no bullet (probably because of bad quality).

If it IS real, and nobody did a thing, then everyone there is just messed up. I mean, those two who were still in the building didn't go over to the girl who was shot! Just staying there out of sight. I hate people who just watch and do nothing about it. It's not a movie, people!

I wish people were less selfish.

@Chema:

There is a huge difference between having a gun pointed to your head, and being [b]shot[/b] by that gun.
The former makes you nervous. The latter makes you crap your pants. There is no other feeling of panic like being shot at in the same room. Even the sound of the gun firing in your direction makes you pucker up.

It was a middle-aged woman, unarmed, and probably succumbing to shock from being shot several times. There was no way she could've thought anything through. It's easy to hope that humans normally would be able to, but the reality is much different.

@DrPebble:

Ever been shot at? I have never been attacked by a bear, but I'd imagine that the urgency you feel is about the same. The only difference between you and this woman is that the woman had a few bullets in her already.

[quote=Proverbs]That's easy for you to say. What could of they done? The man couldn't have saved the girlfriend because he shot her out of nowhere and no time to react. Although he could of saved the mom when she was running but let's be honest humans are naturally scared of someone with a gun.[/quote]

I was actually referring to how they didn't even try to run.

[quote=vengfulboi]The two bystanders just stood there, too mortified to react. This is actually a bit comical.[/quote]

That's easy for you to say. What could of they done? The man couldn't have saved the girlfriend because he shot her out of nowhere and no time to react. Although he could of saved the mom when she was running but let's be honest humans are naturally scared of someone with a gun.

The two bystanders just stood there, too mortified to react. This is actually a bit comical.

[quote=DrPebble]Im pretty sure that I would be smart enough to backhand the door shut while running my ass off than going back to close it... In fact, if be climbing up the walls like spiderman to get away.[/quote]

Everything seems easier when you're not the one in the actual situation.
In a flurry of chaotic events, her mind probably told her to find any way to delay him as much as possible- closing the door- without thinking of the pro's and con's on what would happen if she close the door. Because, of the shock, you don't think straight in situation like these...

Another note to add is that she's an old women, compared to a younger male with a gun. She probably assumed in rash thinking that she couldn't outrun him which is why she closed to door- to add time that he has to go through.

Either way, that's absolutely horrible. Any news on what happen to the man afterward (How many years in prison, etc)

Every jurisdiction has its horror stories and in the country I live in which is Canada, a man beheaded a fellow passenger on a bus and allegedly cannibalized the deceased person several years back. Now he might get more "privileges" from the mental institution keeping him locked up.

[quote=tsubasa128]do you seriously think people can think clearly with a gun pointed at their head?[/quote]

considering your life is at stake, yes
besides it takes more thinking to turn around to close the door than just slamming and pushing everything on your way

[quote=Chema]That womas was so stupid
protecting herself against a gun with a news paper, on top of that once she had a chance to run away, instead of blindly slamming the door backhanded SHE TURNS AROUND TO CLOSE IT

I mean COME ON!
how can you possibly stop a man wielding a gun with a glass door?
even if she managed to lock it he would just shoot through it[/quote]

do you seriously think people can think clearly with a gun pointed at their head?

@Chema:

You've obviously never been shot at before.

The first time anyone ever gets shot at, you lose the ability to think critically and react on panic. Even if you are trained to handle a situation like this, you rely on muscle memory, but it's damn near impossible to critically think when you're unarmed and being shot at from several feet away. This woman had no chance.

asian people these days

those damn asians what will they do next

[quote=ehnogi]It's very sad seeing civilians being shot and killed.
They don't even have the chance to fight back. It's sad.[/quote]

It's very sad seeing people like the first poster.

Edit: even after he edits it my opinion still stands.

It's very sad seeing civilians being shot and killed.
They don't even have the chance to fight back. It's sad.

What a terrible dancer...

No one even tried to help her, they're just standing there idle-ling around

That womas was so stupid
protecting herself against a gun with a news paper, on top of that once she had a chance to run away, instead of blindly slamming the door backhanded SHE TURNS AROUND TO CLOSE IT

I mean COME ON!
how can you possibly stop a man wielding a gun with a glass door?
even if she managed to lock it he would just shoot through it